Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Russia's Pivot Away From US Dollar Is Not Going According to Plan
Newsweek ^ | 9/11/23 | ISABEL VAN BRUGEN

Posted on 09/12/2023 7:25:41 PM PDT by Gunslingr3

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-56 next last
To: Gunslingr3

There is a means to get away from the dollar but no one wants to embrace it, Gold.


21 posted on 09/12/2023 10:46:16 PM PDT by MCF (If my home can't be my Castle, then it will be my Alamo)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Reverend Wright

Haha - good luck with that, the Euros are heavier-handed with the sanctions than the US.


22 posted on 09/12/2023 11:05:46 PM PDT by Paul R. (Bin Laden wanted Obama killed so the incompetent VP, Biden, would become President!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: Reverend Wright
“But why doesn’t Russia trade in the Euro with India now?”

The answer is sanctions. These affect both dollar and Euro settlement with Russia.
23 posted on 09/12/2023 11:28:00 PM PDT by Chad_the_Impaler
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: Paul R.

The EU hasn’t seized central bank assets or excluded from SWIFT.

The US is in a class by itself with this stuff, and that is why they are looking for an alternative to the dollar.


24 posted on 09/13/2023 12:19:47 AM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: Paul R.

https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-set-to-be-more-cautious-on-sanctions-anti-circumvention-ban/


25 posted on 09/13/2023 12:26:36 AM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: Gunslingr3

“But why doesn’t Russia trade in the Euro with India now?”

Because the Indian currency is a blocked currency. And India wants to keep it this way. The Indian Rupee is blocked. Meaning that the billions of dollars worth of Rupees, that Russia has accumulated, can only be spent in India for Indian made products. Agricultural included. India makes automobiles and farm tractors that Rooooskies could be buying.

I am fairly sure that the USA has the juice to demand that our India trade is done in US Dollars.


26 posted on 09/13/2023 1:47:24 AM PDT by dennisw (Never attribute to incompetence & stupidity, that which is adequately explained by malice)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: Gunslingr3

.


27 posted on 09/13/2023 3:14:19 AM PDT by sauropod (I will stand for truth even if I stand alone.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Gunslingr3

“U.S. is still a major manufacturer, that manufactures more value than ever before”

COVID vaccine 2020 - $20
COVID vaccine 2023 - $120


28 posted on 09/13/2023 3:32:44 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: Gunslingr3

https://www.reuters.com/world/india-shared-list-products-with-moscow-access-russian-market-minister-2022-12-05/


29 posted on 09/13/2023 3:36:46 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Reverend Wright
Their stated goal is to do a stand alone BRICs currency.

I don’t think they are as aligned as you seem to think. They certainly suggest otherwise:

Russia has also expressed interest in building an alternative payment mechanism with other BRICS (Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa) nations. But in July, India's foreign minister Jaishankar said "there is no idea of a BRICS currency."

30 posted on 09/13/2023 3:53:14 AM PDT by Gunslingr3
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: MCF

There are drawbacks to shipping gold bars to pay for every major trade. And for a currency backed by gold some trusted country has to hold the gold and promise to deliver it if asked. At present the only country that could fill that role isn’t Russia, China, India, or Brazil, it is Switzerland.


31 posted on 09/13/2023 4:15:37 AM PDT by devere
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: devere

“There are drawbacks to shipping gold bars to pay for every major trade. “

No one does that. They simple move gold from one country’s vault to another. We do that.


32 posted on 09/13/2023 4:50:13 AM PDT by CodeToad (No Arm up! They have!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies]

To: CodeToad

And in what country will these gold vaults reside? Again, only Switzerland qualifies.


33 posted on 09/13/2023 5:05:46 AM PDT by devere
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]

To: devere

We do that. <- I said that already.


34 posted on 09/13/2023 5:07:30 AM PDT by CodeToad (No Arm up! They have!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 33 | View Replies]

To: CodeToad

You mean Russia and China will keep their gold in the USA? That seems quite unlikely, so you are not making sense.


35 posted on 09/13/2023 5:30:50 AM PDT by devere
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 34 | View Replies]

To: devere

Don’t believe everything you think.


36 posted on 09/13/2023 5:37:22 AM PDT by CodeToad (No Arm up! They have!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 35 | View Replies]

To: devere

You completely missed my point. In gold exchange it is rare to actually move gold between countries. It is simply moved between storage locations in vaults. We have been doing that for decades. BRICS will too.


37 posted on 09/13/2023 5:39:09 AM PDT by CodeToad (No Arm up! They have!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 35 | View Replies]

To: Gunslingr3

Trying to make the transactions between Russia and India about the US$ verges on journo malpractice.

Unmentioned is the real outcome of the transaction.

India is refining the Russian crude and then selling it as gasoline and diesel fuel. Those international transactions are most certainly made in US$’s


38 posted on 09/13/2023 5:40:00 AM PDT by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Joe Biden is a kleptocrat)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: CodeToad

And, the coming hurricane puts the gold storage/movement process in jeopardy.

The Federal Reserve gold storage vaults are in New York City, below sea level. A hurricane driven tidal surge pushing the ocean into the lower (as in just barely above sea level) Manhattan streets will flood the gold vaults


39 posted on 09/13/2023 5:44:07 AM PDT by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Joe Biden is a kleptocrat)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 37 | View Replies]

To: bert

So, do you think they’ll detect a sneaky diver? Just askin’.


40 posted on 09/13/2023 6:15:00 AM PDT by CodeToad (No Arm up! They have!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 39 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-56 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson