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What is an American bully XL and should they be banned?
BBC ^ | 12th September 2023 | Matt Murphy

Posted on 09/13/2023 7:00:51 AM PDT by Cronos

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To: Celerity

Our homeowners insurance would not let us own certain breeds of dogs...................


21 posted on 09/13/2023 7:38:03 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: bigbob

There probably,are some pits that are OK, and maybe even a majority would never hurt so eone, but it’s the amount of them that will turn/snap that exceeds other breeds i think?


22 posted on 09/13/2023 7:39:45 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: Cronos
For me, personality aside, I don't want a dog that ugly.

This is more my speed...


23 posted on 09/13/2023 7:40:14 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

My cousin always had those dogs. Super friendly. Always looking for attention too.


24 posted on 09/13/2023 7:45:47 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: DoodleBob

Happy for pits to be regulated by the states.

PA already designates dogs that bite as vicious of a court determines the owner is at fault.

Time to single out problem breeds and require training, liability insurance etc.


25 posted on 09/13/2023 7:50:45 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything)
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To: Bob434
Always looking for attention too.

Yes, I have one that is always making a fuss over something, the other one just leans up against you.

26 posted on 09/13/2023 7:57:47 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: Cronos

Finally something I can agree with you on, Cronos!


27 posted on 09/13/2023 8:01:29 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

We are in agreement.

Pets are basically adopted property. If my tree falls on a neighbor’s car, I’m liable. Same thing here.

If my neighbor provoked the tree, that’s a different story.


28 posted on 09/13/2023 8:03:51 AM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s²)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Yes.... because more government is ALWAYS a good solution. /sarcasm

Maybe you should carry a gun and shoot any dog that attacks you.

You know, like the Constitution is supposed to protect your Right to do.


29 posted on 09/13/2023 8:08:26 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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To: Dead Corpse

—> I do

Still want requirement for training and liability insurance for pits.

You can’t keep a lion in most states either…


30 posted on 09/13/2023 8:16:46 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything)
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To: Celerity; Salamander
Salamander: ping for your input. (Or not.)


31 posted on 09/13/2023 8:21:37 AM PDT by gundog (It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: DoodleBob

[[If my neighbor provoked the tree,]]

NEVER call trees mammal names- they hate that lol


32 posted on 09/13/2023 8:22:49 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: Cronos

Where’s my Boston Terrier....?


33 posted on 09/13/2023 8:24:47 AM PDT by SpokeshaveReturns (Proud Boys, Angry Dads and curmudgeons.)
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To: Bob434

They also hate it when you tell them “you look board all the time…never excited.”


34 posted on 09/13/2023 8:32:27 AM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s²)
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To: DoodleBob

lol- yup


35 posted on 09/13/2023 8:47:27 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: Celerity

I’ve done a lot of research on pitbulls from time to time after reading about yet another unprovoked attack by a “loving gentle family pet”.
The exact percentage of pitbulls among all dogs owned in the US ranges from a low of 6 to a high of 25, depending on which source is cited. Some of the pro-pitbull crowd likes to distort things, but this range is very reasonable.
Very well documented is the percentage of fatalities caused by pit bulls among all dog fatalities in the US. It has consistently been 66% to 70% at least since 2005, and I found one source which went back to 1982. The percentage hasn’t changed much from year to year, though it does seem to be trending upward a bit.
So, the best case is that 66% of all Americans killed by dogs were killed by a breed making up 1/4 of the dog population. The worst case is that 70% of those killed lost their lives due to a breed that’s only 6% of the dogs in the US.
Either way, for many decades the overwhelming majority of dog fatalities are caused each year by pit bulls.
In addition, about 2/3 of those fatalities were a member of the family owning the dog.
Also, those defending the breed ALWAYS say it’s because of the owners, the way the dogs were brought up, blah blah blah.
However, I have NEVER, EVER, heard in the followup report after yet another mauled child etc someone sitting around saying “Yessir! That’s mah good ole boy Killer! I done been teaching him to eat people for 5 years, and it’s about dadgum time that he done it! Yee-Haw!”
On the contrary, it’s almost always “I just don’t understand... Tiny has been with us for years, and he’s the gentlest sweetest thing. Just yesterday he was snuggling the baby.”
(The same baby that he tore apart 24 hours later.)
The pitbull apologists have a long list of excuses whenever something like this happens. Upbringing, failure to get the dog neutered, some innate “litter jealousy syndrome” (aka inherent violent aggression - point made!), failure to properly restrain the dogs, and even failure for someone physically able to fight them off being present at the scene of the attack, and on and on. (These are actual examples of some of the BS they have spewed after incidents.)
A perfect example of a horrific attack without provocation or “bad upbringing” occurred during the past year in Tennessee. A major, vocal pitbull activist had a wife and two small children. They owned two pit bulls, and had had them for 6-8 years, from when they were very young. They were household dogs. One day while the guy was at work, his wife heard chaos erupt in the next room. She ran in to find the two pits tearing apart her two children, who were around 8 months and 2 years old. She tried to intervene, and the pits turned on her, ripping her up savagely. When first responders arrived, the two children were dead and the mom in critical condition, with a, quote, “uncountable” number of stitches required to close the lacerations all over her face, head, arms, and elsewhere. She lived, but the damage was catastrophic.
I found a detailed follow-up report on this incident, which revealed that one or both of these pits were the XXL variety, and from bloodlines which included dogs that had also killed people. The breeder markets them as “lions on leashes”.
I love dogs, but have no compassion for pit bulls whatsoever. The same inbreeding that gives them their looks also continues the behavioral characteristics for which they were bred.
I don’t want a crystal vase full of nitroglycerin as a room decoration, nor a timber rattlesnake for a pet, nor a pitbull for a dog. All for the same reason.


36 posted on 09/13/2023 9:05:21 AM PDT by gbunch
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To: Cronos

We had a beautiful Akita who was a complete attention hog towards everyone, very loving, happy, and loyal. A big, fluffy teddy dog.

That said, Akitas are an “ancient” breed, and instinctively hunt, no matter their training. I knew that and was always on guard when around prey-sized dogs, cats, and humans, and she was never off leash outside of the fenced back yard. She proudly brought us the rabbits, gophers, possums, and racoons that strayed into the back yard.

And our insurance company refused to give us an umbrella liability policy because of her breed.


37 posted on 09/13/2023 9:59:50 AM PDT by VanShuyten ("...that all the donkeys were dead. I know nothing as to the fate of the less valuable animals)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

There are a lot of things we have allowed the government to arbitrarily make laws on outside of their Constitutional mandate to do so...

That you use one law to justify another kinda proves my point.


38 posted on 09/13/2023 10:00:45 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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To: Dead Corpse

No worries.

It’s time to hold pit owners to account.


39 posted on 09/13/2023 10:01:54 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Everyone should be held account for actual damages done, regarding circumstances.

However, a priori restraint laws NEVER work out well and are always a stepping stone for further abuse.

Every. Damn. Time.


40 posted on 09/13/2023 10:08:08 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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