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Israel recalls all its diplomats from Turkey state
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Posted on 10/28/2023 8:50:38 AM PDT by janetjanet998

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To: EQAndyBuzz

and nobody would see this??....


41 posted on 10/28/2023 10:36:16 AM PDT by basalt (qb's)
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To: srmanuel

they are gonna just traipse across Syrian deserts huh??...not a good place to be..out in the open in a desert. Egypt and Iraq learned that the hard way if i remember...


42 posted on 10/28/2023 10:40:33 AM PDT by basalt (qb's)
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To: SaveFerris

Man, if Ezekiel 38 happens before Isaiah 17 - a lot of us are going to have to adjust our Prophetic blinded goggles.

Whoa!


43 posted on 10/28/2023 10:41:46 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Jesus + Something = Nothing ; Jesus + Nothing = Everything )
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To: MinorityRepublican

Turkey is NOT capable of doing any massive attack on Israel....it would be like shooting fish in a barrel. Ask Egypt and Iraq, they had their militaries destroyed trying to move across deserts out in the open...


44 posted on 10/28/2023 10:43:37 AM PDT by basalt (qb's)
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To: janetjanet998

It should not have required the current crisis for Israel to recognize Erdogan’s “modern” Turkey is no friend, and literally never has been. Israel should not forget the Turks once controlled “Palestine” for 400 years, and Erodgan is as intent on restoring the Ottoman’s glory as Putin is on restoring Russia’s.


45 posted on 10/28/2023 10:50:26 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: SaveFerris

The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the ‘agentur’ of the ‘Illuminati’ between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World.

The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion.

Albert Pike, Confederate States Army General, 1871


46 posted on 10/28/2023 10:51:44 AM PDT by packagingguy
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To: zeestephen
But, I have my doubts that Turkey dictator Recep Erdogan - who has destroyed the economy - is their beloved leader.

Maybe not, but he has entrenched himself and fortified his position ala Putin, so it's extremely difficult to get rid of him.

47 posted on 10/28/2023 10:53:08 AM PDT by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized of man)
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To: basalt

They’re plenty of towns along the way, they have been active in Syria for some time, a war has been going on, all along the way, they could always go thru Lebanon first, which is much closer, who would stop them, Hezbollah ??

Hezbollah would join in and be their ally.

If they had to fight their way thru all that, it would be practically impossible, however, the territory along the way has groups that would be their allies.

As another poster pointed out, coming from the sea would be practically impossible.


48 posted on 10/28/2023 10:56:39 AM PDT by srmanuel
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To: basalt

The Americans refuse to sell F-35s to Turkey. So Turkey has a third rate military until they can achieve air superiority.

49 posted on 10/28/2023 11:08:52 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: basalt

I was just looking at it again on a map, they’re places in Turkey along the Mediterranean coast that are less than 200 miles from Beirut, along the coast with multiple paved highways.

On maps that show the road system, multiple highways exist connecting their two countries, thru fairly large cities like Iblid, Aleppo, and others, it would not be desert all the way thru hostile territory.


50 posted on 10/28/2023 11:13:39 AM PDT by srmanuel
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To: MinorityRepublican

My perspective, knowing some people who live in Turkey, live by keeping their feelings and thoughts to themselves - same as some people do in Iran. The old ones remember relative, particularly individual, freedom from Islamic enforcement (when it was not as rigid). And some of the young, follow up with their ancestors’ leanings.

(Youngsters whom I meet, like visiting the U.S. They really like the relative freedom.)

My impression is, that Turkish combat troops are nudged to act, but under threat from commanders, they will engage, get forceful, and apply themselves.

Turkish Air Force is very capable, with what it has. It can deliver bombs with very good accuracy - plus or minus a few feet. I am uncertain about air to air combat.

IMHO / my impressions


51 posted on 10/28/2023 11:22:48 AM PDT by linMcHlp
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To: srmanuel

google the “6 DAY WAR”...or the HIGHWAY OF DEATH in Iraq. Israeli pilots would have a field day....


52 posted on 10/28/2023 11:24:50 AM PDT by basalt (qb's)
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To: basalt

IAF would be tied up with Hezbollah, Hamas and probably Syria and Iran lobbing missiles into Israel.

Plus, the Russian Air Defense systems all over Syria that weren’t there during the 6-day war. You can’t count out what Russia and their air force and air defense systems would do and Turkey has a modern air force as well.

Are any of those opposing forces the equal of Israel, probably not, added together it would likely prevent Israel from establishing air superiority.

Which is why the US would have to get involved in a major way or Turkey would overrun Israel IMO.


53 posted on 10/28/2023 11:33:18 AM PDT by srmanuel
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To: srmanuel
Which is why the US would have to get involved in a major way or Turkey would overrun Israel IMO.

Nope. The Muslims suck when it comes to conventional warfare. But they're masters when it comes to deception so that's why they can do terrorism.

A Western led military always have the advantage over their enemies due to the nature of their training and command even if the equipment and the arms are similar so on paper it should be a draw. Saddam had a million men in his military in 1991. But they were worthless.

54 posted on 10/28/2023 11:44:02 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: srmanuel

Hezbollah and Hamas have an Air Force??...btw, Hamas is being bombed into oblivion as i type this. Look, if Turkey massed any troops for an attack on Israel, theyd be obliterated before they got half way there. Syria etc all still use Russian made garbage. They were no match in 1967 and theyd be no match now. Notice Egypt hasn’t said a word about any of this....they got their fill of IDF in 67 and 73. Hezbollah does have a lot of missles in Lebanon, but you cant fire em all at once. Remember, when they fire their missles, they expose their locations. See, what these stupid terror groups dont understand, they are all tightly packed into a very small area of Gaza and Southern Lebanon....its a fighter/bombers dream. One US carrier could destroy em all in one week...and Israel is more than capable. Might take them a little while, but they could/would do it.


55 posted on 10/28/2023 11:54:22 AM PDT by basalt (qb's)
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To: basalt

That’s assuming the carriers didn’t get taken out, a stray Kinzahl missile could do the trick.

Let all those forces attack at once and the equation changes immediately. How would Israel get resupplied in a long war without massive US Support, with what we’ve given Ukraine how much support do we have left.

Tel Aviv is well within range of Hezbollah and Iranian Missiles, something that didn’t exist in 67 or 73.

Yes, Israel has probably the best missile defense system in the world, it could be overwhelmed in a sustained missile attack.

this is all speculation, because it’s not likely to happen.


56 posted on 10/28/2023 12:01:51 PM PDT by srmanuel
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To: MinorityRepublican

exactly right....all Arab/Muslim nations are terrible at warfare. But, they can kill un armed women and children with the best of em. LOL@ Saddams fearsome ‘REPUBLICAN GUARD”...if they werent surrendering they were retreating. I still marvel at the “6 DAY WAR” ..Israel defeats 5 Arab armies and triples their land size for good measure. They had the entire Eygtian Army trapped in the desert...could have marched right on in to CAIRO if they wanted too. I just hope they finish off Hamas and dont give in to media/political pressure. Those Jews can fight baby...


57 posted on 10/28/2023 12:02:24 PM PDT by basalt (qb's)
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To: AndyJackson

Not all Ukraine supporters on FR believed it.


58 posted on 10/28/2023 12:05:09 PM PDT by Paul R. (Bin Laden wanted Obama killed so the incompetent VP, Biden, would become President!)
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To: janetjanet998

Something about vacuums being filled... :-(


59 posted on 10/28/2023 12:05:59 PM PDT by Paul R. (Bin Laden wanted Obama killed so the incompetent VP, Biden, would become President!)
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To: MinorityRepublican

they don’t have to be great at conventional warfare, they just need a lot of conventional warfare, with all the forces combined coming at Israel from different directions with long range missiles putting all of Israel in range and the equation changes without a major US response.

The last time Israel went into Lebanon to fight Hezbollah, it didn’t work out so well, how many rogue Muslim fighters from Egypt, Syria, Jordan, and all over the world streaming into the middle east would create a chaotic situation

Israel for it’s size is an elite military, fighting off all the forces that could align against them would change the equation and put them in real danger of being overrun without a major US involvement.


60 posted on 10/28/2023 12:09:34 PM PDT by srmanuel
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