Mark Steyn is apparently Vaxx injured and in ill health

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[fireman15]

I appreciate your lengthy post 239 and thank you for your effort. Some of what you wrote made me laugh milk up my nose, but I don't blame you for that. I have a bad habit of reading while I am eating.

In the last paragraph you said, “When people start with the ad hominem attacks, I know it is because they cannot refute anything I say with actual facts.” Then the very next sentence begins “If (like professional antivaxxers)”. I doubt whether there is any such thing as a “professional antivaxxer”. Where would the money come from? People who question the vaxxes are banned from nearly every public forum in existence. Pfizer made $120,000,000,000 in profit from their Covid shots in 2022. It seems like they would be the ones that would have the money to hire “experts” such as yourself to shut up those who have doubts or who have been injured. And of course, unknown millions or billions have been spent to keep all of the malfeasance under wraps. This is not speculation... this is known fact.

So after complaining about ad hominem, you started your very next sentence with a nonsensical ad hominem attack? Nothing in your entire post made any attempt to refute anything reported in the peer reviewed article and study. Most of your post was made up of various logical fallacies, which is all most of us ever expect from you.

You do not behave like a scientist; you do not appear to believe in scientific principals or ethics. You disregard any and all facts and observations shared with you if they lead to a conclusion that you do not agree with. You are the one who behaves like a paid shill regardless of whether you are or not.

Patriot torch wrote a long and detailed post at #169. Did you make any attempts to refute any of the information or links and information that he provided from that post or any of his other posts? Not that I have seen.

I wish that I was capable of writing this in a way that was more considerate to you and still get my points across effectively. I always regret it when I get carried away and I hope that you will forgive me for my laziness or lack of writing skill and the bitterness that I have from hands on experiences from awful situations that have been caused by these “vaccines”. You are obviously an intelligent and educated person who has somehow managed to keep herself insulated from the real-world consequences of these awful “vaccines”. The executives of the companies responsible and other employees who disregarded their obligation to be honest with the public and not cause harm to the public fully deserve to be prosecuted and imprisoned for their crimes. If you are one of those people, I am sorry for you because it must weigh heavily on your conscience,

[grey_whiskers]

Of course, I read a lot, I talked to a CDC physician who was familiar with influenza, and I became the expert that my boss expected me to be.

THOUSANDS of papers.

I think we know how you got through college.

Isn't it about time for you to go get another "donation" from a man with spike protein?

Go get em, Hot Lips. We're all rooting for you.

(BOT status *confirmed* btw.)

[grey_whiskers]

I never was paid for anything I wrote back when I was still employed as a research scientist; I'm certainly not getting paid for writing now that I'm retired.

Can we guess what you ARE being paid for, Hot Lips?

Dingbat.

[faithhopecharity]

Mark is a valiant defender of constitutional liberties and USA in general. He has worked exceedingly hard on our behalf for many years. He’s been right on about 98 percent of the important issues. I sure hope he is well or gets well SOON! There are precious few who fight for us so hard, and almost none with his knowledge or law and history.

[grey_whiskers]

”The production of spike protein following vaccination is limited and confined primarily to the lymph nodes …”

Proteins are now synthesized in the lymph nodes and not in the ribosomes?

Is that why you had to imitate the real virus's spike protein which attaches to the ACE2 receptor?

Thus spake the PhD in molecular biology and Biochemistry, who specialized in RNA chemistry!

Hey guys, I think we're confusing her chatbot!

...or her professor found out she's taking donations from other spiked men.

Dingbat.

[grey_whiskers]

Hi Dingbat.

Excuse me? Ask an AI for information about anything? What next, consult the Oracle of Delphi?

This happened back on 10/26 of this year:

I posted:

Google ChatGPT...

“Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right.”"-- George Orwell, 1984

You replied

Really? Is it true that Robert Malone—or Bob, as I called him when I worked in his lab—has given up trying to scare people about taking the vaccine and is now encouraging people to get vaccinated?

I’ll have to look into that.

I was very surprised when Bob suddenly appeared on all these conservative talk shows in order to tell people stuff that he knows is false and misleading about the Covid vaccines. One of the things that puzzled me is that when he was my mentor, he did not come across as a kook, but instead came off as a respectable and knowledgeable scientist.

If he has stopped spreading misinformation that he knows is false and has gone back to promoting valid medical information, then I am very happy and relieved for him.

I will have to look into this to see if it is true.

So what's funny, is even though I had clearly intimated that the report was false, you took it as "plausible" and resolved to look into it.

So, yes, YOU were relying on AI for information.

Dingbat.

[grey_whiskers]

Try reading the posts, Dingbat.

When people have a loved one get the shot and a day or a week later, suffer death or a major life disrupting event...

They're not going to be convinced by you waving around a piece of paper and calling them ignorant.

It may give you the warm fuzzies but it doesn't restore their lives.

Which, as you may recall, is what medicine is supposed to have been doing, rather than just enriching a few executives and their stockholders.

[Pelham]

“What’s new is, there’s been a >30% INCREASE in the rates of such since the covid epidemic.”

I’ll wait for you to provide the citation for your claim.

Apparently you forgot to include that minor necessity.

Take all the time that you need.

[Pelham]

“exDemMom has far more discipline and sticks to the script better than you do.”

She’s a scientist. I’m an amatuer who studied vaccines for personal reasons long before covid showed up. And you’re a conspiracy nut who I can see knows absolutely nothing about vaccines. But it keeps you busy and keeps me entertained reading the stupidity. So carry on.

[Pelham]

Hey why not post your famous PubMed paper once again. And be sure to include your commentary where you explain what it means. Good times!

[grey_whiskers]

I don’t remember; when I went looking for it after your mention the other day, your first mention of it to me was around 2 1/2 years ago?

But while looking for it, I discovered your comment that the COVID-1984 virus was artificially built.

Dingbat here says that’s impossible, that all molecular biologists agree with her.

She’s wrong, of course. She tends to overshoot when she thinks nobody’s paying attention.

(Like when she archly told another poster the late Luc Montainger never won a Nobel prize.)

Let’s hear your reasoning.

[grey_whiskers]

He's had several family members who had bad reactions, apparently. You don't have to be a conspiracy nut to to react badly to getting bullsh*tted in the face of that.

And calling someone a conspiracy nut who had a family health crisis, is in very poor taste. Maybe you should go call Chris Robinson a conspiracy nut?

Read this post for a list of some of the procedural irregularities involved in the design, testing, and distribution of this "vaccine". Since you claim to have studied vaccines for personal reasons, we'll see how honest you are when you look at the list, or if you're just another annoying little ankle biter of a troll. Deal?

She *claims* to be a scientist. She does a LOT of cutting and pasting and grandstanding, but her critical and logical thinking skills are completely nil; as well as her constant use of double standards in favor of those pushing the "mRNA is the savior of the world against COVID" narrative.

She called her own doctoral thesis advisor a kook and charlatan, while simultaneously claiming credit for having been on a first-name basis with him and saying she knows far more nucleic acid chemistry than him. She doesn't seem to realize that other professionals can gain knowledge from reading, without doing the work first hand: only she can do that. Just ask her.

These attitudes violate all kinds of unspoken rules in the scientific world.

I think she is an affirmative-action hire who is overcompensating and likes to showboat when she thinks nobody will catch her in mis-statements.

As someone else pointed out, Pfizer made $120 BILLION on these shots.

If you really suggest those who had their careers canceled for pushing back, are doing it for money, I suggest you change to a different brand of narcotic.

[Pelham]

“But while looking for it, I discovered your comment that the COVID-1984 virus was artificially built.”

Since you “forgot” to link to this comment I’ll assume that it’s about a study that claims that the furin cleavage site in SARS-2 is something not found in nature, and is therefore evidence that SARS-2 originated in the Wuhan lab.

I posted such an article as evidence for the lab origin theory. But contrary to your claim I’ve never pretended to know one way or the other, that’s just you putting words in my mouth. Which is why you didn’t link to the post. The actual post will spoil your little lie. Old habits die hard, eh cat boy? You and honesty still aren’t buds. Probably never will be if past practice is prologue.

The furin cleavage argument would be strong if it was accurate about it not being found in nature, but the author of the piece was mistaken. Furin cleavage is found in many bat viruses that are cousin to SARS-2. IIRC the author is a medical writer rather than a researcher.

[Pelham]

‘Read this post for a list of some of the procedural irregularities involved in the design, testing, and distribution of this “vaccine”.”

Lol. Now you’re citing yourself as an expert source! It just gets better and better. You truly are delusional.

Hey remind me where Trump stands on the mRNA vaccines. Has he gone Team Kook? I forget.

[grey_whiskers]

Hey remind me where Trump stands on the mRNA vaccines. Has he gone Team Kook? I forget.

He didn't try to make them mandatory, like Dingbat and like Biden.

[grey_whiskers]

Since you “forgot” to link to this comment I’ll assume that it’s about a study that claims that the furin cleavage site in SARS-2 is something not found in nature, and is therefore evidence that SARS-2 originated in the Wuhan lab.

I didn't forget: when you mentioned my PubMed post I went looking. But I misread your comment about it, and though you'd posted that excerpt of the summary section, to me and not somebody else. So I spent all my time going back almost to the origin of the coof epidemic, and not finding it.

While looking for it, I found your mention of furin.

I'll see if I can find it again.

[grey_whiskers]

Depends on what the author of the piece meant.

Not found in nature at all, naah. Why have furin without proteins with various amino acid sequences it likes to preferentially cut (the "cleavage site").

One diagram I saw showed furin (and other proteases) as tiny pac-Man figures on the surface of, and inside the cell.

It pointed out the reproduction advantange of a furin site is that in humans, furin is inside the cell, and presumably could pre-cut the cleavage site before the host cell lyses, thereby saving time when the newly-created viruses land on a new host cell.

I don't know enough about the viral membrane and contents, to know if the virus would fall apart almost immediately (you don't exactly have a cytoplasm waiting to ooze out, in a virus), so I don't know if that picture was blowing smoke.

Not found originally in the virus they attached it to, yeah.

There was a to-do about this much earlier.

For your furin comments, I found the following comments: https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4138653/posts?page=18#18 You have a disclaimer, and it's fairly recent. I don't think that's it. https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4113701/posts?page=86#86 This one, you are noncommital but lean towards it. I may have just skimmed the middle line of this looking for my name and missed the end. https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/3832274/posts?page=163#163 This is just plain interesting even though Ralph Baric has categorically dismissed pangolins.

[SomeCallMeTim]

It’s pretty easy to find. Must you be spoon fed?

[fireman15]

And you're a conspiracy nut who I can see knows absolutely nothing about vaccines.

As a leader of a Hazmat Team for many years... I find your posts and feeble attempts at character assassination amusing. As I have said many times here, I have been a lifelong believer and advocate for vaccines, and likely have been vaccinated at least ten times as many times as you or most others here, with no serious side effects. Unlike you I actually did something about it, and worked as a volunteer bus driver and took people to medical facilities so that they could get worthwhile vaccinations.

My wife, a retired nurse and department head and I have had a great deal of medical training and experience along with many friends who are more knowledgeable than we are. Obviously the Covid vaccine development efforts were a frequent topic of discussion long before they became a reality between the medical professionals that we associate with. The conclusion was that the effort went off the rails in the pursuit of profit and political gain.

If informed and educated individuals who have been insiders in the medical field for years are “conspiracy nuts” in your feeble mind then I am very happy to be grouped with them.

Allow me to correct the spelling of the word, “amatuer” that you used to describe yourself. The correctly spelled word in your case is “armature”, a rotating coil in magnetic field used in electric motor and/or generator. You do not actually think in any conventional sense of the word. You are controlled by mindless electrical impulses that are provided by another entity.

[SomeCallMeTim]

There are hundreds of news stories that talk about this topic. The majority seem to link back this this Cedar-Sinai study

https://www.cedars-sinai.org/newsroom/covid-19-surges-linked-to-spike-in-heart-attacks/

By the second year of the pandemic, the “observed” compared to “predicted” rates of heart attack death had increased by 29.9% for adults ages 25-44, by 19.6% for adults ages 45-64, and by 13.7% for adults age 65 and older.