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Argentina's new president has vowed to 'get the Falklands back', saying it is 'non-negotiable' for Britain to hand them over and compares it to the UK returning Hong Kong to China
UK Daily Mail ^ | 11/21/2023 | RACHAEL BUNYAN

Posted on 11/21/2023 6:52:39 AM PST by DFG

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To: DFG
comparing it to the UK returning Hong Kong to China.

I don't know about the British and Argentina in 1833 or whenever, but the Brits had a lease on Hong Kong for 100 years. When the time was up, the Brits honored the lease and returned Hong Kong to the Chinese.

21 posted on 11/21/2023 7:25:35 AM PST by libertylover (Our biggest problem, by far, is that almost all of big media is AGENDA-DRIVEN, not-truth driven.)
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To: DFG

BTTT


22 posted on 11/21/2023 7:28:37 AM PST by nopardons
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To: chajin

“Chuck will hand the islands over, it will be part of his “legacy””

Sorry but Charles has no political ability to do any such thing. The Monarch is a figurehead only, all political power rests in Parliament. The Union Act of 1707 that created the Commonwealth was pretty much the final act in neutering the Sovereign.
The Monarch is kept on as a part of ritual and habit but has NO authority to order anything done.


23 posted on 11/21/2023 7:29:59 AM PST by oldvirginian (My pronouns are Your Royal Majesty and Mr Fancy Pants.)
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To: All

It’s always an eye opener when you find out what you were taught in high school is largely bogus.

For example, D-Day and the greatest generation. WW II in Europe was over when the Germans surrendered 100s of thousands of troops at Stalingrad.

The Soviets won WW II. The US and UK were largely bystanders in a military sense. There will be talk of Lend Lease and assorted claptrap, but the war was won by Soviet oil fueling Soviet armies that surrounded and crushed the Germans at Stalingrad.

No country the size of Germany can survive that many troops lost. It was over that soon. The rest was formality.

Then there is the magnificent leadership of Wellington and the courage of the British soldiers at Waterloo. Napoleon’s aide-de-camp’s journal notes Napoleon was vomiting blood from a bleeding ulcer the previous night and did not even emerge from his tent until most of the battle was decided.

Napoleon: History is a set of lies agreed upon.

It won’t be long at all before our humiliation in Afghanistan gets rewritten to something brave and triumphant.


24 posted on 11/21/2023 7:36:02 AM PST by Owen (.)
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To: DFG

Kidding and snark aside, I hope he doesn’t waste time and political capital on this. There’s an awful lot of repair work to be done on the economy and crime/corruption fronts that is a lot more important to the future of Argentina.


25 posted on 11/21/2023 7:37:14 AM PST by Chad C. Mulligan
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To: oldvirginian

Make it a US protectorate for 99 years. Then give it to Argentina. Those 2k Falklanders shouldn’t hold themselves hostage for the rest of England to provide protection. Give them 99 years to relocate.

In the meantime the US could use the place as a penal colony. A perfect place for the banished. In the words of the late Al Haig “We’re friends of both”.


26 posted on 11/21/2023 7:38:55 AM PST by DIRTYSECRET
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To: DFG
Best book on the Falklands War (by far):

"The Battle for the Falklands" by Max Hastings and Simon Jenkins.

It touches on the politics (Spanish and British) from 1713 to 1982, the logistics of the British response and details of small unit movements during the war itself.

Great, fast-moving read for any history buff.

27 posted on 11/21/2023 7:39:14 AM PST by Psalm 73 ("You'll never hear surf music again" - J. Hendrix)
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To: cgbg

England can not fight a war—she has two carriers and no planes (they make). The argentines need to just sail a few men in and take them back by brute force. UK is too weak to think of fighting and will hand them over. The Islands are lost. Just as—in the Long Run—Israel. When the USA loses its power in the world (and it might) they are doomed. Its all a question of time. As Ben Franklin said: “He who hath patience can have what he will.”


28 posted on 11/21/2023 7:39:23 AM PST by Forward the Light Brigade ( Ride to the sound of the Guns!)
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To: chajin

In the British system the prime minister, and not the king, make those decisions.


29 posted on 11/21/2023 7:43:51 AM PST by captain_dave
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To: DFG

That is a VERY dumb move politically. It sets a line in the sand that is unlikely to be achieved. Thus giving ammunition to his opposition to attack.


30 posted on 11/21/2023 7:48:13 AM PST by taxcontrol (The choice is clear - either live as a slave on your knees or die as a free citizen on your feet.)
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1. Isn’t the new president a libertarian? Libertarians are usually against using the police and the military.

2. That being said, it’s hard to understand how the Brits would benefit by remaining there. They have all they can do to handle the internal divisions created by immigration and their failed socialist/LGBT policies.


31 posted on 11/21/2023 7:50:40 AM PST by Socon-Econ (adi)
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It’s not really about the Brits wanting to be there. They don’t really want to be there. It’s that the Falklanders aren’t Argentinian and don’t want to be Argentinian. There hasn’t been an Argentinian on those islands for almost 300 years.


32 posted on 11/21/2023 8:13:07 AM PST by marron
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To: Socon-Econ

OK, make that 200. :)


33 posted on 11/21/2023 8:14:04 AM PST by marron
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34 posted on 11/21/2023 8:18:43 AM PST by moovova ("The NEXT election is the most important election of our lifetimes!“ LOL...)
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To: taxcontrol

I agree. He is giving leftists in Washington an excuse to push for his ouster or to join the British in a military strike with the aim of toppling his government.


35 posted on 11/21/2023 8:20:07 AM PST by I-ambush (From the brightest star comes the blackest hole. You had so much to offer, why didya offer your sou?)
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To: marron

Melei is just expressing a popular opinion. He needs the support.


36 posted on 11/21/2023 8:20:23 AM PST by DIRTYSECRET
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To: DFG

I support the Argentinian in this. Britain is no longer Thatcher’s nation. It has become little Pakistan.


37 posted on 11/21/2023 8:22:04 AM PST by nwrep
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Per Wiki:

"A little over a quarter of the workforce serves the Falkland Islands government, making it the archipelago's largest employer.[140]"

Wow. Sounds more like a disease rather than a government.

38 posted on 11/21/2023 8:22:26 AM PST by moovova ("The NEXT election is the most important election of our lifetimes!“ LOL...)
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To: DFG

Argentina could pursue a political strategy of getting Brits who want to live in a traditional Christian European country to move to the Falklands, and then demand a referendum on independence like Scotland did. It could work.


39 posted on 11/21/2023 8:25:27 AM PST by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it." )
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To: DFG

This blowhard ignorance coming from the guy isn’t a good sign.


40 posted on 11/21/2023 8:32:00 AM PST by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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