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EXCLUSIVE: Chinese scientists find a NEW bat coronavirus linked to pangolins that has same freak mutation as Covid - and some experts say it shoots down the lab leak theory
Daily Mail ^ | 11-25-23 | ALEXA LARDIERI

Posted on 11/26/2023 7:17:08 AM PST by dynachrome

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To: dynachrome

2024 election just around the corner...


141 posted on 11/26/2023 5:43:55 PM PST by Pajamajan (Pray for our nation. Never be slave in a new Socialist America.)
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To: grey_whiskers

I know of the CCP. They Have killed millions. Just in 1989…thousands gunned down waving US flags and pushing Statue of Liberty models.

Whether or not they really engineered the virus or it was a natural virus that escaped I don’t know but I would not put it past them for a second.

And more evidence to me says they did.


142 posted on 11/26/2023 6:29:25 PM PST by Phoenix8
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To: All
If COVID-19 wasn't lab-created then why would Fauci try to hide his interactions with Ralph Baric? Ralph Baric and his colleague at the Wuhan Institute of Virology plainly state that they engineered a bat coronavirus, using Gain-of-Function methods, that infected the respiratory tract of humanized mice, and the NIH approved their study because it was initiated before the US Government pause on Gain-of-Function Research. (See here).

Whether or not it was lab created, variants were clearly lab-created per this article: "Unnatural evolution": indisputable evidence for deliberate and systematic creation of circulating covid variants.

143 posted on 11/26/2023 6:45:46 PM PST by vrwc1
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To: All
Then there's this article about Peter Daszak's 2014 grant proposal seeking funding for experiments that will characterize how to best engineer SARS-CoVs to make them highly transmissible between animals and humans.
144 posted on 11/26/2023 7:05:06 PM PST by vrwc1
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To: vrwc1

Thanks for posting this vrwc1.
Irrefutable proof that later variants were bioengineered.

And since the later, it is now not a flight of fancy to suggest the earlier.


145 posted on 11/26/2023 10:18:26 PM PST by grey_whiskers ( The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: vrwc1; ransomnote; bitt; Jane Long; fireman15; george76; Melian; SeekAndFind

Money quote:

I spent the last few days reading Dr. Andrew Huff’s book, The Truth About Wuhan. Dr. Huff was the Vice-President of EcoHealth Alliance from 2014 to 2016—the critical period during which the company’s president, Peter Daszak, sought and received a grant from Dr. Fauci’s NIAID to conduct illegal and extremely dangerous Gain of Function research on bat coronaviruses.


146 posted on 11/26/2023 10:24:29 PM PST by grey_whiskers ( The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: exDemMom

...and the effects of AI would be...?


147 posted on 11/27/2023 12:13:56 AM PST by Does so ( 🇺🇦...Military-aged "migrants" to be hired into Obama's "Civilian Army"? Biden NOT DNC nominee!)
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To: Jeff Chandler

“Their loved ones weren’t even allowed to hold funerals.”

Except when Dem Congressmen attended Eri Lewis funeral:

https://www.westernjournal.com/double-standard-no-quarantines-politicians-attended-john-lewis-funeral/


148 posted on 11/27/2023 12:21:37 AM PST by Does so ( 🇺🇦...Military-aged "migrants" to be hired into Obama's "Civilian Army"? Biden NOT DNC nominee!)
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To: exDemMom; Gen.Blather

Hatfill had said something along the lines of bioweapons builders worldwide all using a stock set of “modules” when they design a bug.

That would fit in with the idea that developing a novel bug is both difficult and unpredictable. And it probably isn’t a good idea to invent something new that you can’t protect against or you would end up wiping yourself out.

I remember reading an article about CRISPR that gave the impression that by using that tool a guy in his garage could create a world ending plague. Like a home brewed atomic bomb only easier. I suppose it isn’t that easy or someone surely would have done it by now.


149 posted on 11/27/2023 3:37:43 PM PST by Pelham (President Eisenhower. Operation Wetback 1953-54)
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To: grey_whiskers

“Troll”

Gosh. More links and another sissy insult by the Moggy Boy.

Think those will be any better than the time you copy & pasted that PubMed study?

And then tried passing it off as saying something entirely opposite of what the author had said?

Good times! That was peak grey_whiskers, lying about the study, figuring that no one ever bothers to read them.

Oh that’s right... you justified your little stunt because it was “political”, which for you apparently means that it didn’t need to be true. Ends justifying the means.

Well I roll with the same rule that we used in jury panels. Once you catch a witness in a bald faced lie you can assume that they will do it anytime that they think that they can get away with it. And you got caught long ago.


150 posted on 11/27/2023 7:16:09 PM PST by Pelham (President Eisenhower. Operation Wetback 1953-54)
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To: Pelham

The link was from one of the references within your article.

Troll.


151 posted on 11/27/2023 7:26:24 PM PST by grey_whiskers ( The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: exDemMom; DoodleBob
When tens of thousands of scientists and research-trained physicians independently examine the data and come to the same conclusions, I'm going to accept what they say.

Hey Dingbat, remember when I called you out early on, that you were relying on "consensus" and that consensus is not science?

Here's why. DoodleBob pointed out that people who dissented from the Pfauci narrative had their careers destroyed. That means the thousands of scientists' analyses were NOT independent: there was a hidden variable you left out. The variable was the pressure exerted on the scientists, directly, or indirectly through word-of-mouth and the example of colleagues.

And look, even Pfauci's *boss* says things weren't all kosher.

Senior US health official, tormented by conscience, reveals dangerous lab work behind Covid that Fauci covered up.https://t.co/xkdYIHPXjo— wretchardthecat (@wretchardthecat) November 27, 2023

Oh wait, I guess he was just selling supplements.🤣

💉💩🫀💀💰

152 posted on 11/27/2023 9:28:34 PM PST by grey_whiskers ( The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: rktman

LOL!! Impressive and meaningful emoji series!


153 posted on 11/27/2023 9:35:49 PM PST by SFConservative
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To: grey_whiskers; exDemMom
The Doctor Who Drank Infectious Broth, Gave Himself an Ulcer, and Solved a Medical Mystery; The medical elite thought they knew what caused ulcers and stomach cancer. But they were wrong — and didn't want to hear otherwise.

Of course, not every renegade scientist winds up getting the Nobel Prize.

But then, Authority Bias has always been a bad look.

154 posted on 11/28/2023 1:58:08 AM PST by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s²)
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To: DoodleBob

Oh, she explained already how this was an example of the continuity of SCIENCE!™ because the discovery of helicobacter pylorii was an application of germ theory, and therefore contributed to the Glory of Biochemistry™.

Has she told you about her PhD and her calculus classes yet, and how she is on a first name basis with Bob Malone, who is now a kook because she knows nucleic acid chemistry better than he does?


155 posted on 11/28/2023 4:22:10 AM PST by grey_whiskers ( The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers

A friend was at a conference years ago, and there was Nobel winner Bob Merton, speaking to people. My friend humbly joined the circle around Dr Merton, who immediately stopped talking, turned to my friend, held out his hand and said “Hi! I’m Bob Merton.” My friend replied “Thank you. Yes…I know.”

Someone said to me, a LONG time ago, that people who wave around their resume, HAVE TO wave around their resume.


156 posted on 11/28/2023 6:45:47 AM PST by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s²)
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To: dynachrome; ExTexasRedhead; metmom; 2ndreconmarine; Fitzcarraldo; Covenantor; Mother Abigail; ...
Infectious Disease ping - Covid virus is up to 98 percent identical to coronaviruses found in pangolins according to Chinese scientists

"The discovery of a new wild coronavirus that has the same freak mutation as Covid-19
is being hailed by some scientists as proof Sars-CoV-2 was not made in a lab."

"Researchers in China have found another bat coronavirus that possesses a furin cleavage site
— the part that made Covid-19 so good at infecting people."

"The furin has been one of the focal points of debate about Covid-19's origin, with some experts claiming it could only have been acquired through lab experiments."

"Since then, studies have shown that wild coronaviruses can acquire the structure naturally
— but the newly-discovered virus has another coincidental quirk."

"The virus — known as TyRo-CoV-162275 — is up to 98 percent identical to coronaviruses found in pangolins,
the animal long suspected of passing Covid-19 to humans."

(My Opinion) : It has taken over three years (2019-2023) for a naturally occurring virus, similar to covid, to have been found by Chinese scientists.
The article claims " Chinese scientists find a NEW bat coronavirus linked to pangolins that has same freak mutation as Covid
- and some experts say it shoots down the lab leak theory"
Better to have allowed the international scientific community conduct independent research rather than an excuse for china to have prevented any unbiased investigation.
There was an international investigation, but the selection of who was to conduct the investigaation was hand-picked by China,
and included the director of EcoHealth Alliance, the organization through which the Wuhan Institute of Virology received funding for "gain-of-function" research.
Better to have allowed an investigation right from the beginning of the pandemic, rather than three years late.

157 posted on 11/28/2023 10:06:14 AM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt
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To: Lockbox

“Its over there where I planted it…… now get to work finding it!”

Exactly. I had a similar conversation running in my head between a couple of CCP “scientists”.


158 posted on 11/28/2023 11:29:36 AM PST by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful.)
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To: grey_whiskers

I already know that honesty is something that you don’t practice. And I’m sure I’m not alone in noticing.

Remind me where Trump stands on the vaccines; does he endorse quacks and crackpots? I forget. Maybe you know.


159 posted on 11/28/2023 5:30:58 PM PST by Pelham (President Eisenhower. Operation Wetback 1953-54)
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To: Pelham

Get stuffed, Troll-boi.

Trump endorsed them, but took a lot of heat (”drinking bleach”) for endorsing alternative treatments.

He didn’t try to make them a condition of employment.

Why not just admit you’re scared silly because of having been jabbed?


160 posted on 11/28/2023 5:48:03 PM PST by grey_whiskers ( The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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