Posted on 12/06/2023 2:56:10 PM PST by SeekAndFind
“Actually, I don’t pay income taxes. I have no income.”
Ah, living off the folks, are you? That would explain a lot.
Biden, you dirty dog! This has probably been their plan all along! I don’t thing the American public will stand for it. Except, of course, those like the Zeepers here on FR.
Afghanistan
You do know, don’t you, that you still pay federal taxes, with or without any income? Federal taxes are passed on to you every time you buy something. The hardware store where you bought that bottle of bleach is passing ITS federal tax liability on to you; so, when you buy that bleach, that federal tax is included in the price the hardware store is charging you.
“But I also think the country as a constitutional republic is still salvageable.”
You claim this and you accuse others of living in a Pollyanna world ?
It is amusing that you believe you can detect emotion from the written word.
You claim to recognize the difficult position this nation is in, but you think it can be salvaged, but all you ae doing is adding more problems for this nation when you expend resources that are needed for this nation, to help another nation. Furthermore, you ignore the obvious signs that the leader of this nation, Joe Biden, doesn't give a rat's arse about this nation, as he allows a massive invasion to proceed unfettered, yet you foolishly believe he cares about Ukraine. You are a complete idiot, and you actions prove that to be the case.
You think you are a bright guy, but you are incapable of connecting the dots that are obvious, because quite frankly you are clueless as to what is going on. If you were aware, you would not continue to exacerbate the problems, of which a major problem is the now closing in on 34 trillion dollars of national debt, with unfunded liabilities in the 200 trillion dollar neighborhood.
As I said, you have done absolutely nothing to help Ukraine, or her citizens. The road to hell is paved with good intentions. What you have done is help destroy both, and you are too pigheaded to admit that you were wrong. Instead of facing reality you are doubling-down on the stupidity. No one can talk reason with you, because all it does is elicit blowback from you. Insanity is to continue down the path expecting a different result, when a different result will never be forthcoming. The whole conflict was based upon the lie, that Putin & Russia were seeking to reconstitute the USSR. When the reality was that the US & NATO kept threatening Russia with its continued NATO expansion.
But, but.... I was told this is all about democracy, human rights and sovereignty, entirely unprovoked, and where the Ukrainians were unquestionably right and winning! Haven’t you heard, Russia has lost 144 million men (highly accurate casualty reports), their economy has imploded from our sanctions, and Ukraine will bounce right back when this war ends with an assured Ukrainian victory.
If you disagree you’re just listening to “propaganda”. In fact, everything which disagrees with Ukraine winning, having been attacked unprovoked, this war being about democracy, human rights and sovereignty, is Russian propaganda. Only CNN and Newsweek printing articles literally ghost written by Ukrainian officials are factual and accurate.
How many stories have you read about US mercenaries KIA and captured?
What about Azov? That disappeared quick, didn’t it?
I noticed there are a lot of stories about ethnic Russians in Ukraine and how they were treated.
I also see our news on fire about weapons shipped to Ukraine now found in Gaza.
Anyone keeping tabs on what this is really costing us?
What about the dozens of drones that recorded Ukraine using hospitals and residential areas to set up anti tank and artillery systems? I noticed our news is just burning up with stories about that.
In fact, what is just the number of Ukrainian casualties? Nope, not even that is reported.
What is propaganda?
You have already surrendered. How pathetic.
Me? I don’t believe in surrenders; it is not in my DNA; I am just not wired that way.
More male bovine excrement.
The Russians can barely hold what they captured during their invasion.
Let me be clear, if Russia didn’t have deliverable nukes, a “VII Corp” would be in Moscow in two weeks.
Maybe 3.
Tops.
5.56mm
Another good reason to pull out of NATO and stop carrying the load for Europe
Joe won’t protect our borders, but wants to spend billions protecting Ukraine’s borders. It doesn’t make any sense. I think we should help Ukraine, but not if we are not going to help ourselves.
EU population 448 million can fend for itself against 143 million Russians.
They already kicked Hunter out of the military for being a crack whore. All he would do is get other people killed.
Rubbish. Europe taken together has been providing more support to Ukraine than the U.S. has.
Or you can donate your money to the Ukrainian military after funding US taxpayer money is cutoff. Or, better yet, get your sorry ass over to Ukraine and fight the Russians yourself. Have the courage of your alleged convictions.
If we’re dumb enough to sign up for every global organization on the planet someone will always be picking our pockets
Who cares? Ukraine wants to be EU. They should be footing the whole bill.
“Yeah, I have learned the lesson that war is not the answer.”
I’ll put you down in the column that advocates surrender at any cost.
“You still haven’t learned that...”
Sometimes war is the hand you’re dealt. You? Per the above, we know what you would do if anyone so much as farted in your general direction: Wave the white flag.
“...and that is my point. It’s a last resort option when all else fails.”
You know absolutely nothing of history, or of human nature: The “last resort” is too late! You have already been defeated!
“It is amusing that you believe you can detect emotion from the written word.”
Your whole argument was emotional; I don’t have to hear the quavering of your voice to ascertain that.
“You claim to recognize the difficult position this nation is in, but you think it can be salvaged...”
Yeah; because, unlike you, I am not a quitter; I am made of sterner stuff.
“...but all you ae doing is adding more problems for this nation when you expend resources that are needed for this nation, to help another nation.”
If I am expending resources, so are you (if you pay any taxes whatsoever; if you don’t, you have no skin in the game, so it doesn’t matter what you think).
“Furthermore, you ignore the obvious signs that the leader of this nation, Joe Biden, doesn’t give a rat’s arse about this nation, as he allows a massive invasion to proceed unfettered, yet you foolishly believe he cares about Ukraine.”
Straw man; assuming facts not in evidence, jumping to conclusions; and rushing to judgment. I have been critical of Joe Biden for about forty years, because he was a known entity as a doofus and a liar and a crook for at least that long. I’ve been pro border control since the Eisenhower administration because I grew up in Southern California and I saw first-hand what illegal immigration did. And, it’s also personal: My mother was an immigrant; she played by all the rules, jumped through all the hoops, and came here LEGALLY; I remember when she became a naturalized American citizen, and she wept.
“You are a complete idiot, and you actions prove that to be the case.”
Oh, spare me your drama.
“You think you are a bright guy...”
Well, that’s relative; but compared to you...yeah, I’m Mensa.
“...but you are incapable of connecting the dots that are obvious, because quite frankly you are clueless as to what is going on. If you were aware, you would not continue to exacerbate the problems, of which a major problem is the now closing in on 34 trillion dollars of national debt, with unfunded liabilities in the 200 trillion dollar neighborhood.”
And how am I exacerbating the problem? Because, son, if you’re a tax payer, if there is a problem, you, too are exacerbating it.
You are so naive.
“As I said, you have done absolutely nothing to help Ukraine, or her citizens.”
Wait a minute: Above you just blamed me FOR helping them, because I support providing them with assistance; now, in the next breath, you say I have done nothing to help them. Get your story straight, kid.
“The road to hell is paved with good intentions. What you have done is help destroy both, and you are too pigheaded to admit that you were wrong.”
In YOUR eyes I was wrong; in MY eyes, and the eyes of many millions more Americans, I was NOT wrong.
You see, we are polar opposites: Where you are a quitter, I am not; where you are overly emotional, I am not; where you don’t seem to understand how a constitutional republic functions, I do. Our respective posting histories show that.
“Instead of facing reality you are doubling-down on the stupidity.”
Nice try, kid: I deal with the world as it is; I don’t live in the Pollyanna world you do.
“No one can talk reason with you, because all it does is elicit blowback from you.”
Have you no comprehension of what DEBATE is? In your Pollyanna fantasy world, everyone is in agreement, and no one can offer a rebuttal to anything you say? What a sad and shallow and boring world you inhabit.
That's what is happening Ukraine, you idiot. Ukraine doesn't resemble a free country. It's the country that most resembles the old Soviet Union.
And, only a fool believes we're freer than Russia under Biden. We're not. And, our country is the one increasing rejecting its Judeo-Christian roots while Russia is embracing Christianity and protecting its nation from evils like the LGBT agenda.
And the Speaker should respond with Legislation Conscripting the blood relatives between the age of 17-35 of every last Federal Employee and Retiree. Give them 2 weeks training and send them straight to the Front lines in Ukraine.
Put your own damned family up to protect your money laundering operation.
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