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New US aid for Ukraine by year-end seems increasingly of out reach as GOP ties it to border security
AP via Yahoo ^ | December 9th, 2023 | STEPHEN GROVES and LISA MASCARO

Posted on 12/09/2023 4:38:01 PM PST by Mariner

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To: Mariner

How about we send them some of our national debt? Equal to Ukraine aid and the money being spent on putting illegals up in nice hotels, flying and busing them all over the country.


41 posted on 12/09/2023 5:33:39 PM PST by Bernard (We honor veterans who fought to keep this country from turning into what it now is. --Argus Hamilton)
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To: adorno

If we give them money, we need to make sure they are using it for defense. They are corrupt.


42 posted on 12/09/2023 5:42:05 PM PST by DLfromthedesert (✡️✝️🔯)
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To: Mariner

Almost two years overdue.

Why did TBTB care more about Ukraine’s borders than our own?


43 posted on 12/09/2023 5:45:11 PM PST by lightman (I am a binary Trinitarian. Deal with it!)
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To: adorno

[Biden got blamed for the disaster in Afghanistan. The GOP will bet blamed for allowing Russia to take over Ukraine. With that, the democrats will be pointing out all through the 2024 election cycle that, it’s the republicans who are to blame for Ukraine becoming part of Russia again.

IOW, republicans will have a very poor election cycle.

Right or wrong, republicans can’t win with Ukraine being abandoned.]


GOP logic: Ukraine is worth losing so long as we get Roe v Wade reinstituted after Biden appoints the next 2 justices, or adds 4 judges.


44 posted on 12/09/2023 5:50:00 PM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room)
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To: adorno

The GOP will bet blamed for allowing Russia to take over Ukraine.

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While I could certainly be wrong about this, I don’t see Russia “taking over Ukraine”. The Russians will be fortunate to hold onto what they have.


45 posted on 12/09/2023 5:51:48 PM PST by Bishop_Malachi (Liberal Socialism - A philosophy which advocates spreading a low standard of living equally.)
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To: adorno
“Right or wrong, republicans can’t win with Ukraine being abandoned.”

Americans need to be reminded every day Ukraine was Biden’s mess.


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46 posted on 12/09/2023 5:53:27 PM PST by CapandBall
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To: Mariner

“New US aid for Ukraine by year-end seems increasingly of out reach as GOP ties it to border security”

I’ve been around long enough to know that THE PURPOSE of these articles is to make the Conservatives think they’ve won...so that they won’t oppose the upcoming deal (as in caving).


47 posted on 12/09/2023 6:03:45 PM PST by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart, I just don't tell anyone)
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To: adorno

“Biden got blamed for the disaster in Afghanistan.

The GOP will bet blamed for allowing Russia to take over Ukraine”

We have a very short attention span. Biden’s screw up in leaving Afghanistan was forgotten a long time ago, Ukraine is Biden’s war. We never had a vital national security interest there and Biden poking the Russian bear about moving next door to it by entertaining Zelensky’s desire to join NATO pushed Russia over the line. That war will be forgotten too within months of negotiating a loss of Eastern Ukraine to Russia.
talking about


48 posted on 12/09/2023 6:06:17 PM PST by chuckee
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To: Mariner

From your lips to Santa’s ears have Greta Thunberg deliver a bucket of coal to Zelensky.


49 posted on 12/09/2023 6:10:16 PM PST by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERYBODY'S BUSINESS-REMEMBER REV. NIEMOLLER)
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To: Trump20162020

Kiev, Kiev, Kiev!


50 posted on 12/09/2023 6:11:01 PM PST by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERYBODY'S BUSINESS-REMEMBER REV. NIEMOLLER)
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To: BobL

The cave is coming but I don’t care at this point I will not vote for any Republican who wants anything sent to Ukraine.

I keep getting pitches for David McCormick and he better say NO to Ukraine money for starters if he wants my vote for US Senate here in Pennsylvania.


51 posted on 12/09/2023 6:13:58 PM PST by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERYBODY'S BUSINESS-REMEMBER REV. NIEMOLLER)
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To: adorno

Americans care most about what is Happening HERE.


52 posted on 12/09/2023 6:18:35 PM PST by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA! DEATH TO MARXISM AND LEFTISM! AMERICA, COWBOY UP!)
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To: Mariner

There should be money for Border Security

WITHOUT strings attached

Like American taxpayers’ money
to protect American taxpayers


53 posted on 12/09/2023 6:22:52 PM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: Mariner

anyone who doesn’t blindly absorb Western propaganda knew that Putin was winning a long time ago.


54 posted on 12/09/2023 6:31:17 PM PST by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: Trumpisourlastchance

15 years


55 posted on 12/09/2023 6:31:58 PM PST by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: Williams

Yeah.

A losers argument.


56 posted on 12/09/2023 6:52:32 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

https://www.beaconjournal.com/story/news/2014/12/30/the-biggest-lie-2014/10344524007/


57 posted on 12/09/2023 6:54:47 PM PST by Sacajaweau ( )
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The lobbying right here on FR threads shows the continued pressure to provide more war material and support to Ukraine.

Forgotten is the Democrat-RINO corruption involving family and friends of Pelosi, Kerry and Romney, in addition to the Bidens. The cash cow, as it comes to an end, might well end with some Z-loyalists turning over documentation of the Americans deep into the grift.

58 posted on 12/09/2023 6:56:45 PM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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Ukraine has already lost. What about that don't you understand?

And, Ukraine wouldn't have lost ANY territory if we had allowed the Minsk Accords to be implemented. Or if Biden had promised not to expand NATO into Ukraine when the Russians sought to negotiate in December, 2021. And, Ukraine would have lost far less territory of we and Boris Johnson hadn't killed peace deal in March of last year.

This proxy war we wanted, lost and Ukrainians are the ones suffering from it. Claiming anything else is a lie.

59 posted on 12/09/2023 7:45:28 PM PST by Kazan
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To: Kazan

I’ll tell you what has lost. Free Republic has lost. Debate about foreign policy is one thing. A site overrun by blatant anti American pro Russian propagsndists is another.
If this is the best conservatism can offer, it’s over.


60 posted on 12/09/2023 8:44:29 PM PST by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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