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Special counsel asks Supreme Court to rule on Trump’s immunity in Jan. 6 case
DNYUZ ^ | 12/11/2023 | Staff

Posted on 12/11/2023 12:09:48 PM PST by thegagline

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To: Fury

I think they will take it up. Important that it be satisfied.


41 posted on 12/11/2023 1:17:11 PM PST by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: Ancesthntr

Read the link at 38.


42 posted on 12/11/2023 1:18:11 PM PST by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: batazoid

“I agree. As Robert Gouveia Esq. pointed out, “If the President believes a federal election was fraudulently held, the President must address the issue as part of his executive duties.”


I’m not familiar with Gouveia, but his contention is only logical: if there was a potentially fraudulent election, that would involve a potential violation of federal law, which could ONLY be investigated (and potentially prosecuted) via the Executive Branch, of which the sitting President is the chief. So, yes, Gouveia is correct, and Trump is guilty of NOTHING except opposing the Deep State cabal.


43 posted on 12/11/2023 1:18:48 PM PST by Ancesthntr (“The right to buy weapons is the right to be free.” ― A.E. Van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: Sacajaweau

Well, it only takes four Justices to grant certiorari, so we shall see.


44 posted on 12/11/2023 1:22:49 PM PST by Fury
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

OK, then accepting your argument. That would mean trying him again on it would be double Jeopardy.


45 posted on 12/11/2023 1:22:56 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up.)
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To: Sacajaweau

OK, fine, it was a legal proceeding. However, there wasn’t a snowball’s chance in Hell of a conviction - so my contention that it was 100% political theater stands.


46 posted on 12/11/2023 1:23:54 PM PST by Ancesthntr (“The right to buy weapons is the right to be free.” ― A.E. Van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: Ancesthntr
But it wouldn’t have been a valid conviction if the CJ wasn’t presiding.

Legally it probably would have been valid. See the other posts on this point. The CJ only presides over impeachment trials for sitting Presidents. By the time the Senate trial began, Trump was no longer President but was arguably subject to punishment beyond removal from office.

47 posted on 12/11/2023 1:27:34 PM PST by Alberta's Child (If something in government doesn’t make sense, you can be sure it makes dollars.)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

And he was constitutionally acquitted by the Senate. Just because they screwed up the trial does not impair Trump’s claim. So for example you find that the district attorney that tried you on a armed robbery charge never even went to law school and has a fraudulent diploma. That would be a reversible error for the person being prosecuted, but it would not give the prosecution the right to conduct a second trial.

Trump was legally acquitted. It’s too bad so sad for the prosecution, but not for the defendant.


48 posted on 12/11/2023 1:28:16 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up.)
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To: MIA_eccl1212
am I reading it wrong?

Nope, sounds like you got it exactly right.

49 posted on 12/11/2023 1:29:21 PM PST by Fido969 (45 is Superman! )
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To: thegagline
Good point. My initial thought was that Smith, as corrupt as he seems, may be attempting to make a graceful exit by having the Supreme Court find that Trump cannot be prosecuted.

Smith has shown himself to be completely corrupt. Whatever the reason, it isn't to be graceful.

50 posted on 12/11/2023 1:30:32 PM PST by Fido969 (45 is Superman! )
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To: Qwapisking

Jackov is running a criminal conspiracy to overturn the 2024 election.


51 posted on 12/11/2023 1:34:29 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: thegagline

“...charges of undertaking a “criminal scheme”

“...all in an effort to subvert democracy and remain in power.”

That in itself is not a proven fact as since the event took place prior to the identified process of determining who won, and before Biden was sworn in, Trump is still the president and was in power. Those parts of the charges if they are written that way are heresay at best.

wy69


52 posted on 12/11/2023 2:07:28 PM PST by whitney69 (yption tunnels)
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To: thegagline

“...charges of undertaking a “criminal scheme”

“...all in an effort to subvert democracy and remain in power.”

That in itself is not a proven fact as since the event took place prior to the identified process of determining who won, and before Biden was sworn in, Trump is still the president and was in power. Those parts of the charges if they are written that way are heresay at best.

wy69


53 posted on 12/11/2023 2:07:28 PM PST by whitney69 (yption tunnels)
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To: thegagline

Could it be that Smith thinks the appeals court will rule against him?


54 posted on 12/11/2023 2:12:55 PM PST by FroggyTheGremlim (Plunk your magic twanger, Froggy!)
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To: thegagline

Jack Smith’s team sees Trump’s numbers climbing and the democrat party is in a panic they want him to act fast before the elections.

If they do ramifications of some sort will ensue the constitution and liberty are on the gallows.


55 posted on 12/11/2023 2:21:35 PM PST by Vaduz (....)
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To: thegagline

I think they are looking for a way out of the mess they got themselves into.

They want SCOTUS to rule against them so they can point the finger and say, the corrupt conservative court let Trump off the hook.


56 posted on 12/11/2023 2:25:44 PM PST by Jonny7797
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To: JonPreston
If the SC rules against Trump, Joe Biden and others will be open to similar prosecutions. Somehow I don't think the Dept of Injustice would be eager to prosecute Biden, unless they were in a hurry to kill his 2024 nomination, to pave the way for somebody who could at least pretend to be competent.
57 posted on 12/11/2023 2:29:46 PM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Re-imagine the media!)
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To: Yo-Yo

His hurry is to find out if he’s wasting his time which I feel sure he is. 😏


58 posted on 12/11/2023 3:40:16 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: FroggyTheGremlim

It would be heard in a DC court.


59 posted on 12/11/2023 3:47:05 PM PST by Coronal
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To: Jonny7797

I think they are looking for a way out of the mess they got themselves into.

They want SCOTUS to rule against them so they can point the finger and say, the corrupt conservative court let Trump off the hook.

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I wish that were true but in my humble opinion, not a frigging chance.

These people are far too nefarious for that.

I like the way you think and I hope I am as wrong as wrong gets.


60 posted on 12/11/2023 4:04:09 PM PST by mlitefan (Long time lurker...)
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