Right, sending military aid to Ukrainians to help them defend their families and country against Putin's unprovoked invasion and imperial annexation is forcing them to fight. Okay
Why Ukrainians are fighting against Putin's occupation:
Posted on 12/19/2023 12:59:44 AM PST by Mount Athos
Some of those potential recruits are
walking the streets of North America.
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After “Gib be dat” Zelensky was done begging for weapons & ammo in DC the other day, he should’ve headed to NYC and rounded up some Ukrainians that are avoiding the war.
“Time to die for country”-Volodymyr Zelenskyy
Simple, Lower the draft age to 13, Draft all women 16 to 60, Draft all visitors to Kiev. Send Zelenskyy to the front with an AK-47—Let him die in battle like the Last Byzantine Emperor. Keep fighting until all in Ukraine are dead—How about forcing Ruzzian POWs captured to fight for Ukraine? All Health care workers, Hookers, elderly, and even the infirmed—They can fight from their wheelchairs and walkers! Victory is worth it.
If you want to fight evil, take a hard look in the mirror and fight the evil in yourself.
Why does Tlozo want force hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian men to die in trenches absolutely their will? With hundreds of thousands more getting life changing injuries and loss of limb? Deaths that won’t produce any clearly positive or different result?
Millions and millions of Ukrainian people have fled to avoid having to participate in the conflict. There were some people eager to fight at the beginning of the conflict, but they are mostly dead or maimed now. Most people who remain are quite desperate to avoid conscription.
Deaths and maimings that will produce no positive result whatsoever, a total waste?
You can try to pretend that you know for sure what Reagan would do, but he was not so immoral and unwise.
The Ukrainian government right now is much more Tyrannical than the Russian. That’s a fact.
People are terrified of their own government in Ukraine.
Oh I didn’t even mention yet the waste of flushing a hundred billion more on Victoria Nuland’s failed project. What could that money have done in the USA. Terrible
I've thought the same many times in recent months. The globalists must truly have no souls.
Right, sending military aid to Ukrainians to help them defend their families and country against Putin's unprovoked invasion and imperial annexation is forcing them to fight. Okay
Why Ukrainians are fighting against Putin's occupation:
Why aren’t you joining the fight?
A third of Ukraine is Russian. You’ve been brainwashed.
I agree 100% with your sentiment. I have offered to help any Youcrayniac who “grows a pair” get over there and fight for their beloved nation and its degenerate, grifting “leader.” No takers yet. I’m not hopeful there will be, either.
“Why Ukrainians are fighting against Putin’s occupation”
But are they?
By far, more Ukrainians are NOT fighting against Russia.
Millions and millions voted with their feet and fled Ukraine to save themselves from fighting.
FIVE MILLION Ukrainians have fled to RUSSIA since the conflict began, according to the UN, more than any other country.
Men are not allowed to leave the Ukraine and a large majority of these trapped people are desperately avoiding conscription. Many have bribed draft officials and some have risked death to flee. A huge number of people are hiding. The military are grabbing people off public transport, malls, gyms, and workplaces, pushed into vans and dumped in the freezing trenches.
Ukrainians largely not hold the views that you say they do, if they did they would be eager to fight. Millions of Ukrainians who fled the country could join anytime but they don’t. You want hundreds of thousands more trapped in the country to die for your geopolitical delusions and flush 100 billion+ more of our money. A total waste with no productive result.
LOL, how many days is it into Putin's invasion of Ukraine?
664, and that's because according to you, "more Ukrainians are NOT fighting against Russia". Okay
The reason the graphic with only a portion of Reagan's remark is used is specifically to try and make President Reagan's words into a slogan.
A longer excerpt from the speech is included below with source citation because it explains, in part, why the graphic does not address this thread's content accurately.
"We in America have learned bitter lessons from two World Wars: It is better to be here ready to protect the peace, than to take blind shelter across the sea, rushing to respond only after freedom is lost. We've learned that isolationism never was and never will be an acceptable response to tyrannical governments with an expansionist intent.It becomes obvious why the shorter excerpt was made into a graphic, when in fact President Reagan said something more subtle, historical and practical geopolitically."But we try always to be prepared for peace; prepared to deter aggression; prepared to negotiate the reduction of arms; and, yes, prepared to reach out again in the spirit of reconciliation. In truth, there is no reconciliation we would welcome more than a reconciliation with the Soviet Union, so, together, we can lessen the risks of war, now and forever.
"It's fitting to remember here the great losses also suffered by the Russian people during World War II: 20 million perished, a terrible price that testifies to all the world the necessity of ending war. I tell you from my heart that we in the United States do not want war. We want to wipe from the face of the Earth the terrible weapons that man now has in his hands. And I tell you, we are ready to seize that beachhead. We look for some sign from the Soviet Union that they are willing to move forward, that they share our desire and love for peace, and that they will give up the ways of conquest. There must be a changing there that will allow us to turn our hope into action."
Ronald Reagan, from "Remarks at a Ceremony Commemorating the 40th Anniversary of the Normandy Invasion, D-day," June 6, 1984
Source: https://www.reaganlibrary.gov/archives/speech/remarks-ceremony-commemorating-40th-anniversary-normandy-invasion-d-day
And then the USSR collapsed internally. Reagan was correct, far more than a simplistic recollection makes it.
"...so, together, we can lessen the risks of war, now and forever." And then Yugoslavia/Kosovo, Iraq and Iraq again, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, and more smaller wars, and of course the Ukraine/Russia war. It seems there is much to remember. And remember accurately.
LOL, thanks for posting that relevant part of Reagan's speech.
You are most welcome. The WHOLE of President Reagan's speech is relevant, not just the part you like.
As to "some sign from the Soviet Union" one recalls the USSR collapsed in 1991, beginning actually in 1988. Seemed like a sign. Another sign, NATO expands in membership after the dissolution of the Soviet Union, and today brags that it can field a military of 2.3 million in its cadre, not counting the US' 1.5 million. Sounds like Europe can defend itself, don't you think?
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And all this time, I was wondering about Joe Bite-Me.... Toothless, as well as hard Left and stupid.
I've thought many times when I see the promos for Wounded Warriors the same thing.
“LOL, how many days is it into Putin’s invasion of Ukraine?”
“LOL, thanks for posting that relevant part of Reagan’s speech.”
Having a real laughing party at the expense of dead Ukrainian kids,ain’t ya Chuckles.
Lord Voldemort Zelensky has killed off all the younger people so he can buy more yachts and mansions and be king of Ukraine.
I’ve been to Ukraine and Russia. Ukraine is not Russia. You’ve been gaslit by Bolshevik filth and their fellow travelers.
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