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Wyoming Grizzly Bear Attack Stopped with 44 Magnum Revolver
AmmoLand ^ | December 19, 2023 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 12/22/2023 4:10:37 AM PST by marktwain

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To: marktwain
From the article:

"..the Assistant United States Attorney for the District of Wyoming sent a letter to the U.S. Fish & Wildlife Office of Law Enforcement in Lander, Wyoming, officially declining prosecution in the Paint Creek grizzly bear shooting."

How long before reporting an encounter like this gets you jail time?

21 posted on 12/22/2023 6:18:50 AM PST by BAN-ONE
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To: marktwain

It is quite unusual to hear of a double action revolver carried with any empty chambers. The design won’t let them be fired unless the trigger is pulled back even if the hammer is snagged on something. I’m going to think he just wasn’t too familiar with his revolver’s operation.


22 posted on 12/22/2023 6:20:08 AM PST by Quickgun (I got here kicking,screaming and covered in someone else's blood. I can go out that way if I have to)
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To: marktwain

His holster had previously accidentally cocked his gun, so he had the empty chamber for safety. That allowed time for the bear to get right on him.

Sounds like he needed a different weapon or holster.


23 posted on 12/22/2023 6:21:32 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (“Occupy your mind with good thoughts or your enemy will fill them with bad ones.” ~ Thomas More)
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To: marktwain

In early summer of 2007, my wife and I, along with another couple, were on Goldwing motorcycles touring the western USA. We both were towing small MC trailers.
We were traveling thru Yellowstone NP on our way to West Yellowstone, Montana to spend the night. I was the lead bike that day. At one point, I saw two bears coming up out of the woods from my right side. I radioed my friend who was about 1/8 mile behind me that they were there and on the move. When he past the bears, he had to swerve a little bit to miss em. The bigger one took a swipe at em. The bear managed to just hit the back of his trailer, knocking it kinda sideways, but they managed to stay up.
When we got to the lodge, we looked his trailer over. Deep claw marks were gouged into the fiberglass.....these were never just gonna “buff out”.
We were fortunate that day, but we gained a healthy respect for western wildlife.
It was definitely a trip of a lifetime.


24 posted on 12/22/2023 6:28:03 AM PST by lgjhn23 ("On the 8th day, Satan created the progressive liberal to destroy all the good that God created..." )
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
That holster is a dead ringer for a Bianchi 5BHL. It is a very good thumb-break holster. Notice that the trigger is covered by this holster, and the hammer is covered by the thumb break. It is difficult to imagine how you could accidentally cock the hammer while holstering the revolver.

Carrying with an empty chamber as he did, is just silly. Even when busting your way through brush, the weapon will not cock itself against branches and twigs - it is too well protected in that model holster.

C.W.

25 posted on 12/22/2023 6:54:56 AM PST by colderwater
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To: HartleyMBaldwin

“The very first time that happened (unintentional cocking), I’d get rid of that holster.”

No kidding. A new holster is cheaper than fixing a hole in your foot or a bear mauling. A holster that allows the gun to be accidentally cocked AND an exposed trigger. That’s a lawsuit waiting to happen.


26 posted on 12/22/2023 6:56:31 AM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (I went to bed on November 3rd 2020 and woke up in 1984.)
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To: colderwater

“That holster is a dead ringer for a Bianchi 5BHL. It is a very good thumb-break holster. Notice that the trigger is covered by this holster...”

The Bianchi 5BHL does NOT cover the trigger.


27 posted on 12/22/2023 7:00:12 AM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (I went to bed on November 3rd 2020 and woke up in 1984.)
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To: Brooklyn Attitude

Well, it does look like the gun’s trigger would have been covered by the holster.


28 posted on 12/22/2023 7:00:24 AM PST by HartleyMBaldwin
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To: marktwain

Did the gun have a five or six round cylinder? Only four rounds available seems risky.


29 posted on 12/22/2023 7:01:45 AM PST by lurk (u)
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To: marktwain

I have a .357 Magnum revolver. Is that enough to stop a bear?


30 posted on 12/22/2023 7:13:20 AM PST by Socon-Econ (adi)
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To: BAN-ONE

Not reporting a self-defense shooting well get you jail time.

The understanding that one defending one self against a bear attack has improved over the years.


31 posted on 12/22/2023 7:16:20 AM PST by riverrunner
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To: Socon-Econ

The 357 mag loaded with the proper ammunition.

Has a fine reputation for getting the job done.


32 posted on 12/22/2023 7:19:19 AM PST by riverrunner
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To: HartleyMBaldwin

“Well, it does look like the gun’s trigger would have been covered by the holster.”

Click on the link below and look at the pictures.

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33 posted on 12/22/2023 7:21:09 AM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (I went to bed on November 3rd 2020 and woke up in 1984.)
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To: Socon-Econ; All
I have a .357 Magnum revolver. Is that enough to stop a bear?

If the shooter does his part.

In one of four pistol failures to stop the attack, a .357 was used to fling lead sort of in the direction of the bear.

Then the shooter flopped down on the ground, covered his neck with his hands, and let the bear chew on him for a while.

Pistols work better to stop bear attacks if:

1. The person shooting actually tries to kill the bear.

2. The person shooting actually hits the bear.

A significant amount of time, warning shots work, but not all the time.

34 posted on 12/22/2023 7:21:23 AM PST by marktwain
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To: Brooklyn Attitude

I’m just going by the photo in the original post. It might not be a Bianchi holster; I don’t know.


35 posted on 12/22/2023 7:31:54 AM PST by HartleyMBaldwin
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To: Socon-Econ

“I have a .357 Magnum revolver. Is that enough to stop a bear?”

Yes with well placed hard cast lead bullets (see Buffalo Bore). Should be good with black bears, probably marginal with griz.


36 posted on 12/22/2023 7:33:15 AM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (I went to bed on November 3rd 2020 and woke up in 1984.)
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“Carrying the revolver with an empty chamber proved to be very dangerous.”

Two empty?


37 posted on 12/22/2023 7:37:58 AM PST by TexasGator
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To: TexasGator

It is implied there was one empty chamber.


38 posted on 12/22/2023 7:40:54 AM PST by marktwain
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To: HartleyMBaldwin

“I’m just going by the photo in the original post. It might not be a Bianchi holster; I don’t know.”

Fair enough. If you blow up the original picture you can see that the gun is in the holster and the side of the trigger facing the camera is exposed.


39 posted on 12/22/2023 7:41:03 AM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (I went to bed on November 3rd 2020 and woke up in 1984.)
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“It is implied there was one empty chamber.”

Nope


40 posted on 12/22/2023 7:46:43 AM PST by TexasGator
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