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Russia Just Lost Three Su-34 Bombers in One Day
Newsweek ^ | 12/22/2023 | David Brennan

Posted on 12/22/2023 5:36:23 AM PST by marcusmaximus

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To: Apparatchik
Nice try, but your argument is specious in that it supposes that if there are British troops in Ukraine, there must also be American ones.

Pure & utter BS. I asked if the UK did it, might not the US have done so as well. Perfectly legitimate question to ask, and not specious whatsoever. Unlike you I never once proclaimed that they are there, but you emphatically stated they are not there.

Your inept analogy: It’s like hearing that there is such a thing as a blue rose and then presuming that there must also be blue daisies and blue sunflowers, only exposes the slow movement that is your brain. Unbeknownst to you though, apparently, is that both actually do exist, which only means that both the UK & the US could have special forces in theater and executing missions. One thing for certainty, is that it is not beyond the realm of possibility. I'm beginning to believe that you are a Deep State provocateur sent here to disrupt the truth and spread disinformation. Now that is not a claim, that is an assessment I am starting to develop regarding you. I have no proof that is the case, its just a feeling at this point in time, because you make some pretty inane statements that lead me to perceive you went to an Ivy League Institution of Higher Learning. You certainly project that impression at any rate. 🤣

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It was claimed by the Polish Minister that he observed special forces from UK were operating as a military unit in Ukraine. You are now attempting to push the narrative that just because the UK did this, it is inconceivable that the US would do so, because the US never does wrong? There is nothing to support your assertion. You may honestly feel that to be true, and there was a time when I would have bought in to that narrative, as well.

I used to hold that belief too. However, what I have seen over the last four years have opened my eyes. Problem is, you are still fast asleep with the belief that you still live in the nation into which you were born, known & referred to as the home of the brave & the land of the free.

I saw a nation that was more than willing to unleash a bioweapon upon, not only upon its own people, but the entire world for the specific purpose to unleash chaos & fear in order to massage the Constitution and subvert the election process to facilitate a coup d'état, which included the participation of several foreign nations, along with both US political parties. They did so, because they did not like the President the people wanted & elected. In their minds this could not stans, and they made sure that it didn't stand.

Was it because he was a threat to Democracy or was he literally the Hitler for our time? I suggest that it was not because of anything he did to destroy "Democracy". He did nothing to expose himself as the Hitler for our times either. What he was doing was returning this country back to we the people, that was free of corruption, and once again a free nation.

Their hate of Trump stemmed partially because he was a leader that the Deep State could not control, but overridingly it was because he was disrupting their well laid out plans of ushering in a One World Government, before our country implodes like the USSR did.

That reality could not be achieved with Donald John Trump occupying the White House.

Unless you have been living under a rock, you've had to notice the unabated invasion along both of our borders. In addition the out-of-control spending

has the debt clock now at 33.938 trillion rapidly approaching 34 trillion, with 212 trillion in unfunded liabilities.

This is not sustainable. If you cannot see the reason for this, then you are nothing but a useful idiot, or you a attempting to gaslight others, which is not going to work on me, and I am not alone in seeing what they profess we don't see, because it is all an unfounded conspiracy theory is their claim.

61 posted on 12/22/2023 4:39:28 PM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: Robert DeLong

Ddoofus, you can’t even name the Polish minister! From your rant it is clear that you are a purveyor of rumor and innuendo. You’re nothing more than a gossipy fishwife with an axe to grind and who has seen too many Rambo movies. I have no use for you here if you cannot cite facts.


62 posted on 12/23/2023 2:29:54 PM PST by Apparatchik (Русские свиньи, идите домой!)
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To: Apparatchik
Doesn't matter if I named him, as I provided you a link to the story, douche-canoe, and the minister is not named. There are lots of positions apparently that have Minister attached to it.

But here is another story that claims Polish, UK, & US Special Forces were in Ukraine:

UK Special Forces secretly operated in Ukraine, says Polish journalist

Special forces operators of UK were embedded with Ukrainian troops in the early days of the conflict, Declassified UK reported on Wednesday, citing the newly published book by Polish journalist Zbigniew Parafianowicz.

Elite British special forces were operating on the ground in Ukraine weeks after Russia invaded last year. That is the allegation contained in a new book, Poland at War, by Polish journalist Zbigniew Parafianowicz.

The author is Ukraine correspondent for a daily newspaper in Warsaw and had access to political insiders and senior officials. He quotes an unnamed Polish government minister who claims to have run into British commandos in mid-March 2022 as he was travelling between Kyiv and the city of Zhytomyr.

Polish Special Forces

The same official also said that Polish special forces based in Lublin had been in Brovary, a suburb of Kiev, “on the first day” of the hostilities. Poles—along with Brits and Americans—had been training the Ukrainian special forces since 2014, the minister said.

Yeah, I think you actually are a Deep State cuck, sent here to disseminate disinformation. Either that or you are a panty waist who cannot admit that you haven't a clue, with regards to your adamant denial, if there have been or current are US military forces in Ukraine, and if they are carrying out operations in theater if they are indeed there. We know without question that they have been training the Azovs, because that that too has been published.

63 posted on 12/23/2023 5:49:43 PM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: Robert DeLong

All I know is you have ZERO information, and are pretending like you do. Stop spreading your lies, Disinformation Boy.


64 posted on 12/23/2023 7:18:27 PM PST by Apparatchik (Русские свиньи, идите домой!)
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To: Apparatchik
I showed you two different sources, besides that I never stated that either sources are correct. Let me reminded you that I asked a question, which was:

So is the Polish Minister a liar in your opinion? And I provided a link to an article making the claim, and I asked a second question which was:

If the Polish Minister, is correct, does asking the question make someone a liar, or just a person inquiring if the UK actually has Special Forces there, what other nations might have military personnel there?

My post was a response by you (post #4) which was directed at Freeper A strike (post #2) where you responded with the following: By Ukrainians, of course. Don’t be tempted to become one of the liars here. A strike (post #2) who had asked the original poster of the article that started this thread, marcusmaximus (Post #1), the following question: Patriot battery operated by Ukrainians or Americans?

So, since you unequivocally stated that it was: By Ukrainians, of course. I am asking you to either provide the proof that it was the Ukrainian forces that were operating the patriot battery, or admit that you do not know who was operating the patriot battery.

Now, either provide the proof, or admit that it is you who has ZERO information, and that it is you who is pretending that you do. If you can't provide the proof & you are not man enough to admit the truth, at least cease & desist spreading your lies as being truths, as well as, labeling others as being liars, you Deep State Disinformation Useful Idiot Cuck.

65 posted on 12/23/2023 10:07:49 PM PST by Robert DeLong
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