Posted on 01/30/2024 7:02:03 AM PST by Redmen4ever
“We better hope he does not say anything stupid about rape or abortion. Stay on the messsage. Hope he is a disciplined campaigner.”
Exactly!
The last thing we need is another Richard Mourdock or Todd Akin clone who doesn’t know when to shut their mouth.
Both these guys were leading in their respective Senate races until they got a case of foot in mouth disease.
You do know GOP and Dems are 27% each of the national electorate? Fringe parties. Independents are 47%.
Striving to advance a fringe party into the Swamp makes no sense and is the measure of nothing. The one thing this business guy has going for him is no political career.
That was a Ryano operation.
She ran fake "family" ads in her first senate campaign with an unrelated man and child in the photograph.
The Republican establishment was too cowardly to call her on it.
Women are more than half
Hysteric consensus rules
the usual way I identify trumpboys is name-calling
thanks for id’ing yourself
You mean name calling like putinbots, putinist or trumpboys. You do more than enough to identify yourself here. I notice how you haven't pinged jimrob to discuss your name calling. He is a Trump supporter, you know that right!? You must be feeling a little punkish this morning, just not punkish enough. Insult US Trump supporters some more. You will eventually get the attention you desire.
Another thing about trumpboys, they can’t take it.
Calling other people morons is o.k., being called a trumpboy is mommy, mommy, that boy hit me.
That can be said the entire Republican Party...
I really don’t see the Republicans taking the senate and I see them losing the House even if Trump wins by a miracle of God. The House and Senate Republicans have shown they are utterly useless as an opposition party and more akin to the Vichy in WWII collaborating with the Nazi’s. I wouldn’t waste the energy to draw a breath to vote for these sorrier than whale crap backstabbers. And I know, then the Democrats will win. Okay, they win, but so far when the Republicans win, the Democrats still win because the Republicans always-ALWAYS betray and vote with the Democrats.
“R’s and D’s are each less than 30 percent in the polls. Independents are near 50 percent.”
Yet, there are few elected independents. What’s going on?
R’s and D’s each have to navigate a peculiar path to be elected. R’s have win in primaries and such that are dominated by R’s; and, D’s have to win in primaries and such that are dominated by D’s. Often they are many candidates in these primaries. In 2016, Trump faced more than a dozen Governors, Senators and other very credible candidates. Trump appealed strongly to good percentage, less than a majority, and won against a fractured opposition. That was a winning strategy. But, only step 1.
In step 2. The R and D candidates have to consolidate their base AND appeal to enough swing and independent voters to win a plurality (sometimes less than a majority because of minor party candidates). Trump’s winning general election strategy in 2016 was to appeal to working class voters many of whom did not identify as R’s. Up to the weekend before the election, his polls were indicating that many undecided voters had “demographics” associated with the D’s and “values” associated with the R’s. Kellyanne Conway talked about this after the election.
Trump also focused like a lazer on battleground states (this thread is supposedly about Wisconsin).
(Today, eight years later, many Trump voters are in the R party. Politics evolves.)
We are running against an incoherent and almost comatose opponent, and many people are hurting in this messed up economy. Trump is ahead, but not by much. And, the D’s have yet to unleash their torrent of advertising and their scads of paid volunteers to get-out-the-vote. We cannot take anything for granted.
I take it just fine but let me see if I have this right. You post by calling names, we respond in the same style, you whine about being called names. Pure leftist projection. You must be a Uke supporting neocon. Oh wait...that's exactly what you are. Lying is first nature with you clowns.
This was you...This is also me discounting your lies. Notice lies #1, #2 and #3?
So, you’re for Trump because he two years he got the Democrats back in charge of the House (Lie #1, Paul Ryan is the source for your lie), and in four years he turned the Senate (Lie #2 and it's a whopper! Mitch 'Glitch' McConnell is the source for this lie) as well as the White House over to the Democrats. Lie #3 which tells everyone all that's needed to know you.
Putinbots are easy to identify, but sometimes I can’t tell the difference between trumpboys and Democrat trolls.
16 posted on 1/30/2024, 9:48:39 AM by Redmen4ever [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies | Report Abuse]
The error in the thinking is that — particularly for Wisconsin — to think Trump voters have GOP issues in mind.
They don’t. They are independent. This does not make them somehow in between the two fringe parties. It makes them what Trump knew they were — interested in issues completely divorced from GOP or Dems.
They are interested in Drain the Swamp. A concept neither party can support. It erases career politicians, and both fringes have those.
The don’t care about tax and spend. They care about elitism. And Build the Wall, that the GOPe may not like but at least can talk about (since it does not involve their own removal).
The 2016 voters in Wisconsin who voted Trump had voted Obama in the previous 2 elections. They didn’t change their opinions on tax and spend. They finally found someone who wants to drain the Swamp.
Nobody’s heard of this guy. JD Vance wrote a book and made a movie. The info on him was out there. Didn’t work with with Oz, hindsight being 20-20. Tommy Thompson should have taken on Feingold but had POTUS aspirations. Didn’t know his limitations until Baldwin slapped him around. Montana-the governor Gianforte would rather run to keep his post even if the senate seat is more important for the nation as well as the party. This Montana Veteran millionaire is as likely to win as this Wisconsin nobody. Ohio-Trump supports Moreno so we may have to just run with him.
Who are the 2 Wisconsin house members who declined?
My friends it starts with top candidates. The best are not stepping up. Not worth the hassle.
Like the way you absolve Trump from losing the House in 2018. The president is leader of the Republican Party. Losing the House meant the legislative agenda and the budget agenda got hampered and keeping the House should be among the president’s priorities. But, the organizing principle of trumpboys is Trump is winning, and losing is always somebody else’s fault.
Trump so far is running a good campaign this year. He pulled off one of the greatest election victories of all time in 2016. On a par with or even better than Harry Truman’s comback win of 1948. Trump got outhustled in 2020, asleep at the wheel while the Democrats rejiggered the rules to enable them to steal the election in multiple states; but, even so, the election was still close. (Did you know that the Demoracts kept the Green Party candidate and Kanye West off the ballot in almost all the battleground states? Given how close was that election, this alone made the difference.)
Trump is favored to be only the second person in U.S. history to serve two disconnected terms as President. Trumpboys who can’t tell Trump’s personality defects from his strengths do him a disservice. Trumpboys also do him a disservice by following his example of name-calling, being thin-skinned and making enemies of anybody not in the trumpboy cult. When we get some distance from this time period, Trump will be an interesting character study specifically because of his unevenness, like Patton. Well, at least if he wins this fall.
Thank you for admitting the budget deficit drifted up during Trump’s first three years in office, and exploded during his fourth.
In a country such as the U.S., the two political parties consist of non-conflicting factions. We, in the R party, include fiscal conservatives, 2nd Amendment types, civil libertarians, people favoring a strong national defense. Trump, as you point out, brought into the mix populist-conservatives mostly disaffected by the pre-Trump alignment of the parties. Trump also made some deals to re-assure more traditional conservatives such as by working with the Federalist Society to name a list of possible future Supreme Court nominees.
Things have evolved a bit since 2016. The Trump’ized Rs reflect the entry of populist-conservatives. As in the past, Trump’s challenge of uniting the R’s and appealing to enough swing and independent voters is helped enormously by the Democrats. There is talk of a third option (or even more). But, I doubt it. This will be the third election in a row in which people who feel both candidates are bad will cast the deciding votes.
Why Senate Republicans are hopeful of taking out big-name Democrat in key battleground state
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When I see headlines like this, I start to get excited, but then I remember that Senate Republicans will simply use a majority to pass legislation that is economically advantageous to their donors and do little else with it.
1) I’m for Trump because he did some great things while in office. The RNC and many NeverTrumpers did everything they could to hamstring him. He literally was fighting the establishment, the Senate, the media, the FBI and the CIA the whole 4 years of his presidency.
2) Putinbot? Go somewhere else with that crap.
Remember, there are no good guys in the Ukraine war. On either side. The only good guys are the civilians in the path of two evil monsters running the two governments.
You have Dictator Putin who legitimately had reason to protect Russian citizens living in Ukraine that were being bombed, starved and massacred on a regular basis to march in and stop the evil.
You have the Dictator Zelensky who shut down elections, the opposition parties and has appointed literal Nazis in many of the positions keeping him in power. The leading group of their army, the Azoz Brigade, proudly wears their Swastikas on their uniforms, and many others hide theirs.
You are attacking conservatives because they literally are saying stop attacking the only guy who is literally fighting a war to stop Soros control of Eastern Europe. Hopefully, Soros decides to go to Russia (forcefully) where he’s already been tried in abstensia and found guilty of multiple crimes and sentenced to death.
Hi spacewarp!
Putin is already talking of protecting the interests of Russian minorities in the Balkans.
War with Russia may be inevitable.
Stock up on iodine tablets.
Baltics, not Balkins
The RNC refused to spend on Trump supporting candidates in 2018.
The cheating they did in 2020 they got the practice run in 2018.
The Senate committee refused to endorse candidates who had a chance because they supported Trump.
The GOPe freaked out because Trump was effective, and so they ran as far away as possible from him. THAT is what cost them the House and almost the Senate.
The PARTY refused to cooperate even though the “president is the leader of the Republican Party”. Sorry, but you’re flat out ignoring truth.
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