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Ai Weiwei Says Censorship in the West Is ‘Sometimes Even Worse’ Than in Mao’s China
ARTnews ^ | February 5, 2024 | Alex Greenberger

Posted on 02/05/2024 1:19:03 PM PST by nickcarraway

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I am totally against the censorship in the West, but this is just ignorance of Mao's China.
1 posted on 02/05/2024 1:19:03 PM PST by nickcarraway
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There is certainly a Cultural Revolution going on in this country, especially in the Universities.


2 posted on 02/05/2024 1:23:17 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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I agree.....getting fired by a private company for an opinion verses being killed for not liking “Mao” are not even close.


3 posted on 02/05/2024 1:28:18 PM PST by mikelets456
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To: nickcarraway

Ai Weiwei (Chinese: 艾未未; pinyin: Ài Wèiwèi, English pronunciation: (help·info); born 28 August 1957) is a Chinese contemporary artist, documentarian, and activist. Ai grew up in the far northwest of China, where he lived under harsh conditions due to his father’s exile.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ai_Weiwei

Mao died in 76 when Weiwei was 19.


4 posted on 02/05/2024 1:33:11 PM PST by FarCenter
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He’s conflating the censorship by private actors with the censorship by the government.

Although the US has some of the latter too, when the government worked with the major social media corporations to sensor individuals.


5 posted on 02/05/2024 1:36:03 PM PST by Truthsearcher
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but this is just ignorance of Mao's China.

He was born in 1957. He himself was there and lived through it. Moreover, his father, who was a pre-1949 communist party member, was declared a dissident and "counter-revolutionary," and was exiled during Mao's years, when he spoke out against Mao's excesses.

So he's hardly "ignorant" of what went on. You may not like him, but he's speaking from experience people on FR will never have.

6 posted on 02/05/2024 1:40:15 PM PST by PGR88
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It isn’t ignorance, FRiend.

This is deliberate.

Weiwei is overseen by the CCP. This comment does not show up anywhere unless it has been vetted by the CCP, and it is not only vetted, it is deliberately contrived to make people outside of China think there is freedom of expression there.

There isn’t. This comment was made for a specific CCP approved propaganda reason.


7 posted on 02/05/2024 1:41:30 PM PST by rlmorel ("The stigma for being wrong is gone, as long as you're wrong for the right side." (Clarice Feldman))
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So he's hardly "ignorant" of what went on. You may not like him, but he's speaking from experience people on FR will never have.

I've spoken to people who were imprisoned there for decades, people who fled, and people who had to live through it. If you are saying he's deliberately lying, maybe. But otherwise, I don't know what to tell you, because what he is saying differs from many, many independent sources.

8 posted on 02/05/2024 1:42:50 PM PST by nickcarraway
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Heh, okay. That’s not even funny...I had a brain cramp and saw that as Huawei, and my mind did a phonetic overlay of it.

What I said is true, but relating to this, may not be, so...I retract it.


9 posted on 02/05/2024 1:44:53 PM PST by rlmorel ("The stigma for being wrong is gone, as long as you're wrong for the right side." (Clarice Feldman))
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It could be true.

I got warned and put on restrictions on FB during the covid days because I dared present alternative theories that the virus might have been lab leaked or even GE. The great James Watson, of DNA fame, got fired at Cold harbor U because he dared speculate that race and IQ might he connected. Many other examples.

Actually why I’m here now. I started thinking if of other more conservative sites and remembered FR that I used to frequent back around 99-2000.


10 posted on 02/05/2024 1:46:53 PM PST by Phoenix8
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No, it isn’t. The West, especially the US is really censorious. It is just carried out in different ways and by different people.

There is hardly an issue where the PRC or Russia are not more righteous and more free than the US.


11 posted on 02/05/2024 1:49:27 PM PST by Fai Mao (Starve the Beast and steal its food.)
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Though he exaggerates, he makes a good point. Ai Is a good man.


12 posted on 02/05/2024 1:50:30 PM PST by Chengdu54
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I made the same mistake when I saw the headline, until I read the article. But I think what you said is still accurate.


13 posted on 02/05/2024 1:50:52 PM PST by nickcarraway
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Welcome back—the censorship on other sides has gotten absurd—my favorite was the site that banned me when I gave foreign travelers links to US city official crime maps.

I guess the site wanted them to learn about US crime up close and personal—the hard way.


14 posted on 02/05/2024 1:52:38 PM PST by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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To: nickcarraway

Yes. The cancel culture here is execrable.

But if this artist did not protest the regular and repeated cancellation of mainstream American opinions by the radical left for the past decade, he has no credibility.

So he can stew in the cesspool he helped create by his silence. I hope he loses his gallery and goes bankrupt.


15 posted on 02/05/2024 1:53:17 PM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: nickcarraway

Ai Ku Ku can be his new name.


16 posted on 02/05/2024 1:55:17 PM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: PGR88

愛哭哭

Ai Kuku is using a poor example.


17 posted on 02/05/2024 1:57:31 PM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: nickcarraway

He made a simple statement: Censorship in the West is sometimes even worse than Mao’s China.

He didn’t say the USA is now more totalitarian than china.
He didn’t say he wants to live in China
He didn’t say propaganda in the USA is always worse than China.

I’m not sure why you’re arguing with his statement.

Go ahead and ask your many Chinese contacts - do they see some similar sprouts of marxist, PC, cancel-culture nonsense in post Obama America?


18 posted on 02/05/2024 1:57:34 PM PST by PGR88
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There is a Cultural Marxism going on in many of our universities and in lthe eft-wing media narrative. And in that effort there are quite some censorship going on. It’s unfortunate.

However, Mao’s rule of terror evidently was FAR worse. You would be killed or tortured to death if you didn’t repeat the official narrative.

There is censorship in every country today, to a certain degree.

In Russia, people are not allowed to protest.
Political opponents are all either assassinated or thrown into political prison camps in Siberia.
Only Kremlin-approved “news-outlets” and TV stations are allowed to operate. Zero competition.
A russian citizen pushing for peace between Ukraine and Russia will be sent to prison. He will be considered as a “Foreign Agent”!

Not only Freedom of speech has been abolished in Russia, but freedom of assembly as well.

Thus we have certain level of censorship in the West, yes. But compared to what’s happening right now in Russia, we are very lucky.

This map says it all:
https://globalfreedomofexpression.columbia.edu/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Screen-Shot-2020-02-09-at-9.52.05-PM.png


19 posted on 02/05/2024 2:06:10 PM PST by USA-FRANCE
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bkmk


20 posted on 02/05/2024 2:31:50 PM PST by Faith Presses On (Willing to die for Christ, if it's His will--politics should prepare people for the Gospel)
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