Ukraine Parliament Extends Martial Law

Breitbart ^ | 02/06/2024 | OLIVER JJ LANE

[Tench_Coxe]

I probably shouldn't help an outsider with US history, but I don't recall Lincoln outlawing Copperheads prior to the 1864 election.

Maybe he could cite Woodrow Wilson instead.....

[Alter Kaker]

Sounds like the martial law the US had in border states and the South from 1861 to 1865.

[Alter Kaker]

The last time someone seriously tried to destroy the United States, the US Civil War, we had martial law across much of the country for nearly five years. Abe Lincoln threw the Maryland state legislature into prison, without charges, for starters.

[Alter Kaker]

I don't recall Lincoln outlawing Copperheads prior to the 1864 election.

Lincoln didn't throw every pro-South Democrat into prison, but he threw a lot of them into prison.

[Alter Kaker]

For example, General Ambrose Burnside arrested Copperhead Congressman Clement Vallandingham and threw him in prison without formal charges for violating martial law. Lincoln vacated the conviction and instead expelled Vallandingham into confederate-held territory, effectively banishing him from the United States.

[Alter Kaker]

That didn’t happen in Mississippi, that happened in... Ohio.

[Tench_Coxe]

Was there an election in 1864? Did Copperheads participate? Those are yes or no questions, btw.

[Navy Patriot]

... I don't recall Lincoln outlawing Copperheads prior to the 1864 election. Maybe he could cite Woodrow Wilson instead.....

Two accurate and worthy points.

Aside: I accidentally pinged you (Tench_Coxe) to post #14 when I should have pinged mrmeyer, however you are right there in this discussion, thank you for your comment, NP. Sorry to all for the clerical error.

[lightman]

Just like Buy-DUNG extending the public transportation mask mandates “just another 90 days...not forever”

[Alter Kaker]

Was there an election in 1864? Did Copperheads participate? Those are yes or no questions, btw.

There was an election of sorts. There was an election in some states, no election in the 9 states still in open rebellion, there were elections in occupied-Louisiana and Tennessee but the electoral votes from those states were not counted, and a large number of copperhead elected politicians were either in prison or banished from the union.

[RetiredTexasVet]

If there are any Ukrainians alive to hate his memory.

[hardspunned]

Saving democracy means Z, the Quisling, cancels the vote that would toss him out on his ear this spring.

[A strike]

you are the one living o your knees

[Svartalfiar]

Lincoln vacated the conviction and instead expelled Vallandingham into confederate-held territory, effectively banishing him from the United States.

And yet, by Union arguments the South wasn't allowed to secede, and they were all still part of these US, so he wasn't actually expelled from these US, right?