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Child and man wounded, suspected shooter dead in incident at Joel Osteen’s Lakewood Church in Houston
NBC news ^ | 2/11/24 | Dennis Romero and Rebecca Cohen

Posted on 02/11/2024 4:06:55 PM PST by CFW

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To: SaveFerris

Perhaps the shooter did not realize it, but Joel Osteen preaches the “Prosperity Gospel” where one is encouraged to become Christian because God will bless them with wealth, as opposed to the actual Gospel where one should accept forgiveness and turn away from sin.


21 posted on 02/11/2024 5:32:27 PM PST by AndyTheBear (Certified smarter than average for my species)
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To: stinkerpot65

“To be fair, Osteen doesn’t do much bible.”


Osteen’s scam is all about him. Christianity, God, and the Bible have little to do with anything he does or promotes.


22 posted on 02/11/2024 6:02:59 PM PST by CFW (I will not comply!)
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To: CFW

Osteen is a motivational speaker he is NOT a pastor or preacher of the Bible!!


23 posted on 02/11/2024 6:05:54 PM PST by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: Salvavida

13. This is still a good example of why members of houses of worship needs armed security officers and trained/armed parishioners.


24 posted on 02/11/2024 6:32:06 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper (Figures a)
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To: Trump Girl Kit Cat

Yes he is an ordained minister, as well as a motivational speaker. He does not get into hellfire and brimstone sermons like many protestant preachers, which is probably why so many ministers don’t like his preaching style. He does preach hope and positive thinking as more related to God. As a Catholic, I’m not into his televangelist-style, preferring more private worship, but I’ve read a couple of his books and he does inspire hope in difficult times. And I’m certainly not going to criticize him or his church when someone evil came there with murder in mind. Thank God that things were not much worse...


25 posted on 02/11/2024 6:40:22 PM PST by Texan5 ("You've got to sadldle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line...")
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To: SaveFerris

I had the privilege of going to a church where Charles Stanley was the visiting speaker. Brilliant man, made living a good life with God’s help totally understandable. No threats of hellfire and brimstone, which turns many people away from church.


26 posted on 02/11/2024 6:43:38 PM PST by Veto! (FJB Sucks Rocks)
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To: AndyTheBear

Yes


27 posted on 02/11/2024 7:04:58 PM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the Days of Lot; They did Eat, They Drank, They Bought, They Sold ......)
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To: Veto!

That’s awesome!


28 posted on 02/11/2024 7:05:55 PM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the Days of Lot; They did Eat, They Drank, They Bought, They Sold ......)
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To: No name given

Or Argentine around the same period. Many a commie or violent lefty got a helicopter ride to a swimming session far out from the beach.


29 posted on 02/11/2024 7:08:55 PM PST by arthurus ( covfefe Rh)
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To: Basket_of_Deplorables

Most likely. Trannies have some serious mental issues or they wouldn’t be trannies and the hormones they take can make some unexpected changes in mental state.


30 posted on 02/11/2024 7:11:00 PM PST by arthurus ( covfefe Nb)
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To: Fuzz

Pinochet cleaned house in a part of the world where that sort of thing has been normal for a couple of centuries. In the process he imported the Chicago Boys to rationalize the economy and Chile has prospered greatly thereby, but like in all Latin countries, the people can’t stand prosperity and vote in the Socialists/Communists after a time.


31 posted on 02/11/2024 7:14:52 PM PST by arthurus ( covfefe Zn)
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To: SaveFerris; metmom

This is my usual ‘Coincidence’.
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Yes Ferris I stole this,
Thanks.


32 posted on 02/11/2024 7:28:28 PM PST by Big Red Badger (The Truman Show)
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To: Big Red Badger

Excellent

Feel free to share it far and wide

God bless you


33 posted on 02/11/2024 8:34:28 PM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the Days of Lot; They did Eat, They Drank, They Bought, They Sold ......)
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To: Big Red Badger

BTW, I expect that to be representative of what will happen to Tribulaton Saints during the Great Tribulaton after the Mark of the Beast becomes mandatory in order to BUY and SELL.

Praying 🙏🙏🙏 that they stay strong in the Lord.

Revelation 20:4


34 posted on 02/11/2024 8:39:14 PM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the Days of Lot; They did Eat, They Drank, They Bought, They Sold ......)
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To: Texan5

As a Prot, I’m am going to agree with you.

While Joel does focus quite narrowly on the good things GOD wants for you, I’ve never heard anything in his broadcasts that sound as herectical as some stuff I have read in FR’s Religion Forum.


35 posted on 02/11/2024 8:47:04 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

“Betcha there is enough on her to prove she should have been in a mental institution and would have been if this was the 1950s or 60s before the mental hospitals were closed in the 1970s.”

Won’t take that bet. And yes, we should’ve never closed the hospitals society had created to care for such people and prevent them from harming the rest of us. From what I can discern, the idea behind the closures was that virtually all of the then patients would actually be better off out in society, monitored and medicated, living in half-way houses. Plus, holding them against their will was illegal. Plus Plus, turning them loose was far less expensive than hospitalization. So the mental hospitals got pretty much emptied out. Unfortunately, the right people weren’t thinking through the possibility that the theory was wrong. Had they considered that possibility, perhaps they would have realized the IMpossibility of ever going back; to at some point having to go out and physically round up unstable people and institutionalize them involuntarily. Had they realized that THAT would never happen, perhaps we’d not be in the situation we’re in today.


36 posted on 02/11/2024 8:47:17 PM PST by drwoof
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To: drwoof

Before the psych hospitals were closed lots of inmates were committed there by relatives to get rid of them. Given the choice between that and setting them all free I would choose to set them all free, but some middle ground would have been better. Commit them only by court order for a set term with mandatory release at the end. And that is happening some now.


37 posted on 02/11/2024 10:49:34 PM PST by nagant
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To: SaveFerris

Osteen quotes many Bible Promises in his sermons. Pray the Holy Spirit fire his dad had in his messages will rise up in him


38 posted on 02/11/2024 11:37:36 PM PST by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose GOD is the LORD. (Psalm 33:12))
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To: stars & stripes forever

How DARE you actually believe those promises!


39 posted on 02/12/2024 3:26:30 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: stars & stripes forever

✝️🙏🛐


40 posted on 02/12/2024 4:07:36 AM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the Days of Lot; They did Eat, They Drank, They Bought, They Sold ......)
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