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Teacher Pay: Half-truths and Reality; Are Public School Teachers Really Underpaid?
American Greatness ^ | 03/14/2024 | Larry Sand

Posted on 03/14/2024 6:41:26 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: pfflier

I worked with teachers for many years. Many if not most are the most entitled people you will ever meet. They get full time wages with terrific benefits and usually the best insurance of anyone in the state. All this for a nine month position with many days off during those nine months. They are among the rats biggest contributors. Woke and Democrat activists for the most part. They have poisoned our kids minds and we see the consequences


21 posted on 03/14/2024 7:26:23 AM PDT by iamgalt
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To: SeekAndFind

Madam:

Your EBT card is not going through. Has your child been misbehaving at school? The teachers’ union might have placed a hold on it.


22 posted on 03/14/2024 7:27:58 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: ConservativeMind

I made a fortune teaching HS for 30 years.

Well, not just teaching — I also coached baseball, officiated football and basketball, cut timber and firewood. And I invested, little at a time, all along the way.

We lived frugally. I fixed up the house and vehicles by myself, sat on used furniture, stayed married to the wife of my youth.

All of this paid off; but credit belongs entirely to God. He guided me all the way along. His principles endure over time.

Now, if a teacher wants to follow the world’s possessions and pursuits, then he/she will “look” underpaid, for sure.


23 posted on 03/14/2024 7:30:04 AM PDT by Migraine
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To: SeekAndFind
"Another way to increase pay is for teachers to teach larger classes."

But that has been shown to be detrimental to the students. The younger they are, the more detrimental the effect.

24 posted on 03/14/2024 7:32:13 AM PDT by jeffc (Resident of the free State of Florida)
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To: SeekAndFind

The good ones are. The bad ones are overpaid.


25 posted on 03/14/2024 7:32:53 AM PDT by CodeToad (Rule #1: The elites want you dead.)
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To: SeekAndFind

a thought - what about a basic salary for teachers with small incremental increases for seniority. But the main increases in pay come about after performance reviews and only teachers whose students meet performance standards given increases.

We don’t need baby sitters and probation officers as teachers.


26 posted on 03/14/2024 7:36:51 AM PDT by elpadre (acilities??)
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To: SeekAndFind

Overpaid AND overcompensated.

People always forget about the bennies.

Health insurance coverage and pensions are busting budgets, not salaries.


27 posted on 03/14/2024 7:37:30 AM PDT by mewzilla (Never give up; never surrender!)
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To: SeekAndFind
a story will circulate that laments the plight of the overworked and underpaid teacher.

Odd, not a mention of "benefits". Also, not a mention of early retirement buyouts - I've seen some head spinning incentives. Also, not a mention of all the vacation days and Summers off. Also in the "hourly" wage, no mention of how many classes are taught vs. "planning" hours in school.

28 posted on 03/14/2024 7:37:59 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Brian Griffin

I love the film, “Blackboard Jungle”. It’s idealistic and realistic at the same time. Vic Morrow overdid his juvenile delinquent scowl; but such is drama.

Glen Ford broke through those tough-guy pupils using a 16mm Daffy Duck (or similar) cartoon to get the kids to discuss values. That is similar to (I think) Michelle Pfeiffer’s use of “Mr. Tambourine Man” lyrics to teach rebellious kids about metaphors.


29 posted on 03/14/2024 7:38:16 AM PDT by Migraine
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To: SeekAndFind

NO!! NO!! NO!!! If anything a TON of PUBLIC SCHOOL TEACHERS are OVERPAID!!


30 posted on 03/14/2024 7:43:55 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: SeekAndFind

“...Are Public School Teachers Really Underpaid?...”

HA!!


31 posted on 03/14/2024 8:01:43 AM PDT by SMARTY ("A lie which is half a truth is ever the blackest of lies." Tennyson)
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To: SeekAndFind

Public school pay is one thing (high) the real under paid teachers are those in parochial schools, Catholic, Lutheran etc where test scores are much much higher than public and teachers get a fraction of public school teachers and scores of administrators


32 posted on 03/14/2024 8:05:53 AM PDT by TECTopcat
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To: hardspunned
Teachers are grossly overpaid for their part time gig.

Yet another ignorant remark from you. A teacher's working day does not end at 3 p.m. There are papers to be graded, new lessons to be written, supplies to be purchased, parents of miscreants to be called, mandatory meetings to attend after school, etc. I taught in urban high schools for 25 years and often did not make it to bed before midnight. I was a very dedicated teacher and put everything I could into my lessons and activities. This time after school hours more than balanced out summer vacation. Such intense daily activity with a bunch of kids who do not want to be there requires a recharge of one's batteries. But I still spent a lot of my summer researching material for new lessons in the fall.

33 posted on 03/14/2024 8:08:24 AM PDT by EinNYC
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To: Brian Griffin

If they were good people, they would not stand by while their radical colleagues ruin lives.


34 posted on 03/14/2024 8:11:01 AM PDT by beef (The pendulum will not swing back. It will snap back. Hard.)
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To: EinNYC

They are really putting in the hours in June, July, August, Christmas break, fall break, spring break, all holidays, personal time. Give me break. It’s a part time job.


35 posted on 03/14/2024 8:25:50 AM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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It’s a part time job.

You've never been a teacher, so you are speaking from ignorance.

36 posted on 03/14/2024 8:26:41 AM PDT by EinNYC
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To: EinNYC

I assume you’re a teacher and have never held a real job. You know, a job where you work 52 weeks a year with NO time off other than a one or two week vacation and five or six holidays a year. Take it from a guy who sweated or froze off the back off a truck under those conditions for 35 years to get to retirement. Every teacher I’ve ever known is retired or double dipping after 25 years. And just look at the bang up job teachers are doing in completely destroying our children’s minds over your working career. The results, look at the test scores, you teachers produce would get you all fired on real jobs.


37 posted on 03/14/2024 8:35:47 AM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’d just say those who thinks teachers are overpaid should change their careers and start teaching. The growth of educational administrators and their salaries is a problem, however.


38 posted on 03/14/2024 8:38:32 AM PDT by yetidog
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To: Uncle Miltie

“That’s what many teachers are paid these days. I know from personal experience.”

Not my wife.


39 posted on 03/14/2024 8:43:55 AM PDT by PLMerite ("They say that we were Cold Warriors. Yes, and a bloody good show, too." - Robert Conquest )
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To: Uncle Miltie

Plus they do not work that much!
Most teachers, I know, work during vacations.
So the 100+ becomes like 130+


40 posted on 03/14/2024 9:20:29 AM PDT by AZJeep
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