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The cost of key US weapons like artillery shells for Ukraine is soaring
Business Insider ^ | 3/16/24 | Michael Peck

Posted on 03/17/2024 7:58:59 AM PDT by hardspunned

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To: hardspunned

Bog Oil and the Military Industrial Complex make out bigtime with democraps.


21 posted on 03/17/2024 8:29:05 AM PDT by CodeToad (Rule #1: The elites want you dead.)
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To: Leaning Right
"Nazi Germany valued quality over quantity. They made relatively few expensive, complicated tanks.
The Soviet Union valued quantity over quality. They made many cheap, basic tanks.
And we all know how that little dust-up ended."

Berlin after World War II


22 posted on 03/17/2024 8:43:16 AM PDT by wildcard_redneck (He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither.)
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To: hardspunned
--- "Cha-ching, Cha-ching, Cha-ching for the MIC oligarchs. Fortunately, in Ukraine, this is less a problem as the ammo is expended and weapons destroyed prior to needing much maintenance. "

Indeed. Additionally one observes that there are no "apologists" for this fiscal insanity on this thread, as of my typing a comment.

34.518 trillions USD and rising rapidly.

Debt Clock

23 posted on 03/17/2024 8:50:32 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: Leaning Right

You’re right, but I wonder if there wasn’t more to it than that. The Soviet Union had a larger population than Germany. It could provide crews for all those tanks and could afford to lose more tank crews than Germany could.


24 posted on 03/17/2024 8:56:07 AM PDT by x
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To: hardspunned

Joe did promise at the State of the Union, that dollars spent on Ukraine, would come BACK to America in the form of exporting guns etc..shells.


25 posted on 03/17/2024 8:58:15 AM PDT by rovenstinez
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To: hardspunned

Wasn’t there an artillery type replacement system for our modern large naval ships..Destroyers, maybe? that was going to be so expensive to shoot that it was never deployed? I’m thinking it was a replacement for the Iowa class battleships’ 16 inch guns?
like a million dollars per shot and this was quite a few years ago, maybe before the Littoral combat ships?


26 posted on 03/17/2024 8:59:10 AM PDT by desertsolitaire
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To: hardspunned

Inflation ... in case you have noticed. Also the shells are increasingly complex with guidance built in. Expensive things cost more money - rule of thumb.

Yeah its evil to make money and the evil military with the companies that make the equipment and ammo which need to be eliminated, so we can all live in a world filled with people singing kumbaya.


27 posted on 03/17/2024 9:06:43 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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“Also the shells are increasingly complex with guidance built in. Expensive things cost more money - rule of thumb.”

Thank you, Mr. Raytheon! What total MIC propaganda! That might work on bought off congressional dullards but the American taxpayer is finally beginning to see through this bunk.

The most effective weapon currently being used in Ukraine are 500kg, 1000kg and 1500kg precision glide bombs. These horrifically effective weapons are dumb Soviet era aerial bombs, fitted with $2000 worth of remotely controlled fins.


28 posted on 03/17/2024 9:21:14 AM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: hardspunned

And thank you, Mr Hardcore Russian troll, for your views. Did you vote on the internet or in person for Putin?


29 posted on 03/17/2024 9:42:55 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: PIF

Why is it so hard for some people to understand that some of us are not for Putin OR Zelinsky?


30 posted on 03/17/2024 9:48:19 AM PDT by Moonmad27
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To: hardspunned

Shrinkflation!!!!!

Probably barely make a pop sound!


31 posted on 03/17/2024 9:53:38 AM PDT by If You Want It Fixed - Fix It
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As was expected, you can’t refute the facts that I presented. Rather than even try, you lash out with your media provided slanders. You’re not even capable of making up your own slanders. Funny how only “Putin stooges” aren’t stupid enough to get down and wallow with you in your MIC lies.


32 posted on 03/17/2024 9:56:16 AM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: hardspunned

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33 posted on 03/17/2024 10:01:05 AM PDT by sauropod (Ne supra crepidam.)
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hardspunned wrote: “The MIC is wasting hundreds of billions a year. The Russians are repurposing millions of dumb aerial bombs from the last century into horrific, precision glide bombs at a couple of thousand dollars per bomb.”

We did the same thing back around 2001

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_Direct_Attack_Munition


34 posted on 03/17/2024 10:01:37 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: rovenstinez

rovenstinez wrote: “Someone is wanting to make a profit. Joe Biden talks of Shrinkflation and his bag of potato chips needs to go into the Military Industrial Markets and find out who is charging $500 dollars for a $2. hammer.”

The $500 hammers were a procurement myth. No one ever paid $500 for a hammer.
https://www.govexec.com/federal-news/1998/12/the-myth-of-the-600-hammer/5271/


35 posted on 03/17/2024 10:04:35 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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“ $100,000 for one artillery shell! Holy Moly!”
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Nothing’s too good or too expensive for Ukraine. /sarc


36 posted on 03/17/2024 10:15:24 AM PDT by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA. -PRO-M)
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To: Moonmad27

If you are for Putin, you are against the US, if you are against Zelinsky, then you are for Putin. Neutrality is appeasement and appeasers will get trampled. This is not just some other war, but an existential war fro the West.

Standing on some misbegotten monetary principle will only get us all dead. The quicker Zelinsky gets the military aid the shorter the war, the fewer people die, the less the war costs. The converse is also true.


37 posted on 03/17/2024 10:50:00 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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Name just one thing the gooberment buys that costs less now than 13 years ago. The whole gooberment procurement system is a mess that just gets worse.

Time for a bloodbath. Time for this nation to just die and start over. It can't be saved.

38 posted on 03/17/2024 11:13:46 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Procrastination is just a form of defiance)
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To: rovenstinez

“You don’t actually think they spend $20,000 on a hammer, $30,000 on a toilet seat, do you?” - Julius Levinson, Independence Day movie.


39 posted on 03/17/2024 12:18:17 PM PDT by Dan Zachary
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To: PIF

So we can’t have a different opinion. And we have to spend billions of American dollars — for what?


40 posted on 03/17/2024 12:39:05 PM PDT by Moonmad27
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