Posted on 03/18/2024 12:10:46 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
“Wanna bet there are no DEI commissars involved in the team member selection process this time?”
There will be. Anything for political gain will have the politicians out like flies on poop.
“The same folks wanting to bash Boeing are mostly the same people who cowered during COVID.”
That’s was retarded. Conflating the two. Here let me try:
Those who try to insult those picking on Boeing are the ones who took the vaccine and still wear masks.
Your gut is not lying. Most of what I have read leads me to issues that are almost entirely that of the end user. Other than the door plug- not much to pin on old Boeing. I may not be particularly tuned in— but just shy of 50 years in the business might allow for some speculation would it not?
Back in the late 90’s we were on a flight from Orland to Vegas with a stop in Dallas on a 757. On approach, extending flaps, the starboard outboard flap let go of about 20 feet of the outer section of flap . Interesting. Safely landed but that plane was NOT continuing to Vegas. Turned out the mounting bolts for the hinge bracket had shouldered out during installation and finally met their limit. On my job we always checked for that issue. Proper install likely would have prevented this......
Certainly Boeing is facing some challenges, but they have also been subjected to the media “if it bleeds it leads” treatment. It’s not Boeing’s fault that a United Flight crew drove their plane onto the grass at IAH, or that a United flight dropped a tire on takeoff at SFO — that’s clearly on United maintenance.
And the design flaw story that surfaced a couple of years ago about the 737 Max and their new, larger and forward-mounted CFX manufactured engines may not be quite as straightforward as the media has presented. I’m no pilot, but I have talked with a couple of 737 left seaters who vehemently disagreed with the media narrative when it first came out. This pilot, with a very interesting YouTube channel does a good job of providing some context and a much more balanced presentation than any major media outlet that I’m aware of.
Episode is here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ue400BhW0aY
This is my summary of what he says in that video:Yes, the 737 was originally designed with an unusually low ground clearance (but not unreasonably in historic context), and the newer extended length versions did put more pressure on the pilots to avoid “tail strikes”, but the story that the media ran with regarding the CFX engines isn’t as one-sided as we’ve been lead to believe. He points out that moving the engines slightly forward probably makes the aircraft slightly more stable, but more importantly, these engineering decisions are, like all design decisions, trade-offs and compromises. The original engine placement, and low ground clearance was itself a result of exactly this type of decision making — the low ground clearance was to allow the use of the aircraft in smaller airports, which in the early 1960’s didn’t all have passenger jet bridges, or access to high lift baggage loading equipment. It turned out that those considerations kind of melted away when air travel became so popular that these features became widely available, obviating the reasoning for the original ground clearance itself.
Now, I have no idea if all of this is right or wrong, but it does seem like a safe bet that the media are playing for clicks, and are not necessarily deeply concerned with finding out and presenting the public with the truth.
Maybe they should outsource their manufacturing to China. At least then, people would know to expect poor quality.
“ The long term solution is to add sensors to the engine cowls to detect icing conditions, and to turn off the engine anti-ice heat when it is not needed”
So those pilots don’t really know what all those hundreds of buttons are really for so they?
Apparently they don't, or can't be bothered to learn.
The short term solution is don’t turn on engine anti-ice when it’s not needed, like the flight manual says.
I think you correctly stated what should and need to be done and in case the pilot ignors this or falls down on the job, a good solution would be to make it automatic.I think it wouldn’t be too complicated having a switch amongst many others in the cockpit which states DE-ICING OFF-ON in case there is a need for it.
Fire his sorry carcass and hire competent pilots. If that means that the collection of pilots is "too White" or "too Male" ... so be it. DEI ==> DIE.
A similar engine cowl overheating issue is happening on Boeing's 787 airplanes as well, which also have composite engine cowl inlets (instead of heavier aluminum) yet nobody is screaming about the 787's issues.
[The basic 737 has been a long trusted workhorse. This max version unfortunately was an example of Boeing reengineering it as a larger sized aircraft. That way money was saved compared to designing a new plane from scratch. This cutting corners approach may now imperil the entire company There’s a lesson in all this somewhere.]
Boeing officials need fixing, an issue that will take multiple human generations to accomplish.
Yes. I was in a transplant squadron and the emphasis was keeping the planes in the air, not on ‘social justice’ or race related. Race appeasement will get killed in the Military.
So the accountants designed a new airplane from scratch using lego parts and this is what happened. We need to learn to leave engineering to qualified engineers.
“The former CEO was hoping to finesse the 737’s bigger engine and slightly modified body through software”
That is fine for niche applications like the Space Shuttle or the F117, but I think a passenger aircraft should be one of those that just wants to naturally stay in the air.
how about “scrap it” ...call it a day..and start over with a clean sheet of paper...
Can’t get Nikki to help or is she still in the TDS war room?
CFM? Cheap F’ing Motors?
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