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Arizona Organizers Say They Have More Than Enough Signatures for an Abortion Ballot Measure
CBS News ^ | April 3, 2024 | Shawna Mizelle

Posted on 04/03/2024 3:33:31 PM PDT by nickcarraway

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To: libh8er
> This is not about abortion. It’s about increasing Democrat turnout.

Its about both.
Democrats take great pleasure in causing harm to the defenseless, and abortion is the ultimate expression of that.

And I am sick of all of the moral cowards hiding behind abortion being a "States rights" issue, when it is not, it's an violation of the Constitution's guarantee of inalienable rights which cannot be forfeited without due process.

Abortion is legally predicated on exactly what slavery was, a person can be the property of another.

21 posted on 04/03/2024 4:19:27 PM PDT by SecondAmendment (The history of the present Federal Government is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations ....)
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To: nickcarraway
Bogus...

80% of the signers, and 100% of the financing, come from the Political Left.

Their goal - massive, pro-abortion, Democrat turn out in the swing states.

As expected, the Political Right is completely stunned and completely helpless.

22 posted on 04/03/2024 4:24:25 PM PDT by zeestephen (Trump "Lost" By 43,000 Votes - Spread Across Three States - GA, WI, AZ)
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There is nothing new here. And increasing turnout among 27% of the electorate is not awesomely powerful.

Independents decide this election and no one has measured any surge in the interest they might have in abortion vs what has always been so.

This is an issue interesting only to the media who wants to believe it is decisive and are, themselves, living in denial about 27% fringe party status.


23 posted on 04/03/2024 4:24:55 PM PDT by Owen (.)
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To: CatOwner

511,949 new voters registered in AZ in the past 3 months (1/1/2024 to 3/16/2024) without photo ID only using the last four digits of their social security number. What could go wrong?


24 posted on 04/03/2024 4:27:15 PM PDT by griswold3 (Truth, Beauty and Goodness. )
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To: nickcarraway
Republicans had better figure out how to address abortion or they are going to lose every state that manages to get it on the ballot.

It is a state issue within the state, but maybe national discussion on what are limits--e.g., late term or no partial birth abortions. Save the babies, invest in adoption of American kids, etc.

As a federal issue, no more funding of abortion, no abortion on federal facilities, get the federal government out of it entire.

Ah, the $64,000 question, how to frame that for potential voters that want to kill their babies, or maybe Democrats harking back to their roots and wanting to kill brown and black babies in particular.

25 posted on 04/03/2024 4:27:25 PM PDT by Reno89519 (If Biden is mentally unfit to stand trial, he is mentally unfit to be president. He needs to resign.)
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To: CatOwner
And possibly 100 million ballots counted for him.

Bingo!

I've been saying for almost 4 years that if DJT gets 81 million votes, then JRB will get 100 million+.

..and GOP governors and legislatures will say, "We're shocked. We didn't know Joe was so popular that he would
garner so many legitimate votes."

26 posted on 04/03/2024 4:34:49 PM PDT by Thommas (The snout of the camel is already under the tent.)
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To: nickcarraway
And WHO will relentlessly CRAM this issue down the throats of ignorant broads and convince them this is the #1 issue over crime, the economy, world war, and the destruction of their future by the DemonRat party?

THE SCHOOLS, run by communists.

27 posted on 04/03/2024 4:39:37 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing (Get off my back for my usage of CAPS, especially you snowflake males! MAN UP!)
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To: zeestephen
Whoops - I goofed big time in Comment #22.

I thought this was the same bogus abortion ban initiative as the one in Florida - no abortions after six weeks.

Nope...

Arizona is a legal abortion Amendment - obviously and publicly sponsored by the Political Left.

The Florida six week ban initiative is being secretly financed by the Political Left, to generate massive Democrat pro-abortion turn out.

28 posted on 04/03/2024 4:42:00 PM PDT by zeestephen (Trump "Lost" By 43,000 Votes - Spread Across Three States - GA, WI, AZ)
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To: CatOwner
“Another state lost to Biden.”

Yup, you are correct. I expect Florida to go “blue” with their “Abortion Amendment” on the ballot.

Like it or not, abortion is a big draw for women. A majority of them will craw out of the wood work to vote for it to be a “Right” within their state.

Expect to see many more states have something like this on the November ballot ... either an Amendment or a some type of referendum. Either way, between this and the criminal illegal aliens stuffing ballot drop boxes in November we are basically done as a country.

29 posted on 04/03/2024 4:43:26 PM PDT by CapnJack ( )
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To: CatOwner

Yep.


30 posted on 04/03/2024 4:48:57 PM PDT by gibsonguy ( )
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To: libh8er

Well duh


31 posted on 04/03/2024 4:57:05 PM PDT by gibsonguy ( )
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To: Liz

She appeared in a Christian movie from Christiano Films.

Very late 1990’s - possibly very early 2000’s.


32 posted on 04/03/2024 5:18:06 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the Days of Lot; They did Eat, They Drank, They Bought, They Sold ......)
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To: CatOwner

“Another state lost to Biden.”

They were cheating here long before Biden, and last I heard you could get an abortion or two or ten or fifty with no problem.


33 posted on 04/03/2024 5:18:29 PM PDT by Luke21
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To: nickcarraway
My argument against abortion is this:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government . . ."

Man is basically hostile to the rights of another individual. That hostility is now used to hide another individual--its victim--behind the cover of its mother's skin. It believes what is unseen has no human rights and can be slaughtered like what those Hamas savages did to 400 Israelites at a concert and in nearby kibbutzes. There was cutting off heads, breaking women's pelvic bones due to repetitive rapes and burning them just after that; putting infants in ovens and turning them on; systematic genital mutilation--all atrocities minimized and hidden from media coverage to the benefit of those who had the most to gain in committing them.

I am not writing about abortion saving the live of the mother. I am writing about those who minimize the atrocity of abortion because they have to gain from that atrocity. It is why those words were written in America's Declaration of Independence. The British had much to gain from their atrocities. It is our responsibility to end that gain using government.

34 posted on 04/03/2024 5:19:04 PM PDT by jonrick46 (Leftniks chase illusions of motherships at the end of the pier.)
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To: Liz; RushIsMyTeddyBear; metmom; CynicalBear; SkyPilot; tuffydoodle; tang-soo; righttackle44; ...

Time Changer is a 2002 independent Christian science fiction seriocomic film written and directed by Rich Christiano, released by Five & Two Pictures.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_Changer

I used to chat with Dave Christiano many, many years ago (email). Dave is Rich Christiano’s brother. They both make Christian films.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Christiano

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rich_Christiano


35 posted on 04/03/2024 5:27:34 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the Days of Lot; They did Eat, They Drank, They Bought, They Sold ......)
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To: SecondAmendment; Scott from the Left Coast
Then there's the "shout your abortion" people...


36 posted on 04/03/2024 5:30:02 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the Days of Lot; They did Eat, They Drank, They Bought, They Sold ......)
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To: SaveFerris

O’Neill co-starred opposite James Brolin (Sreisand’s husband) in The Visual Bible:
Acts (in 1994), which depicts the Acts of the Apostles in the New Testament. He played Simon Peter.


37 posted on 04/03/2024 5:30:59 PM PDT by Liz (This then is how we should pray: Our Father wIho art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. )
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To: Obadiah

It’s a good issue for them. The Supreme Court overturning Roe vs. Wade in 2022, the fact it happened with all three Trump-appointed justices (Coney Barrett, Gorsuch and Kavanaugh) doing it, can say “if Trump wins, he’ll appoint more Supreme Court justices who’ll restrict abortion even more.” Couple that with abortion bans losing everywhere there’s been a direct vote, even deeply red states like Kentucky, Kansas and Montana. Democrats would be crazy not to make it one of their top campaign issues this year, they have all the ammo, it’s a proven political loser for the GOP and it can absolutely peel off white women from voting Trump.


38 posted on 04/03/2024 5:34:25 PM PDT by Trump20162020
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To: thegagline

DemonKKKrats have never stopped their opportunistic quest for power even when they have no right for it. For one thing, abortion has been committed in record numbers. From the “Washington Post”:

“The Guttmacher Institute found that there were more than 1 million U.S. abortions last year [2023], the first time since 2012 that the tally crossed that threshold. The group also reported that medication abortions made up 63 percent of those performed during that time, or about 642,700 procedures, up from 53 percent in 2020.”

Americans do not need DemonKKKrats to get more abortions. If they want more abortions, they can change laws in their state to get them. What needs to be controlled is those who want to gain by depriving unborn citizens the right to life.


39 posted on 04/03/2024 5:37:11 PM PDT by jonrick46 (Leftniks chase illusions of motherships at the end of the pier.)
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To: Liz; dfwgator

Yes

I actually liked James Brolin in “Capricorn One”

I could even stand Sam Waterston, for once

“She’s on the roof!”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ok6H1OFTmyA


40 posted on 04/03/2024 5:37:57 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the Days of Lot; They did Eat, They Drank, They Bought, They Sold ......)
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