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Arizona State Senator Leads Prayer In Tongues On Floor Before Abortion Ruling
Huffington Post ^ | Ron Dicker

Posted on 04/10/2024 7:44:14 PM PDT by joesbucks

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To: Eccl 10:2

Having grown up in a tongue speaking church, that’s pretty close.


41 posted on 04/10/2024 10:53:56 PM PDT by joesbucks (For 2,000 years Christians have been warning of the Anti-Christ. Now they buy Bibles from him. )
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To: Flaming Conservative

Yes


42 posted on 04/10/2024 11:02:23 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the Days of Lot; They did Eat, They Drank, They Bought, They Sold ......)
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To: ConservativeMind
1 Corinthians 14:14-19 For if I pray in a tongue, my spirit prays but my mind is unfruitful. What am I to do? I will pray with my spirit, but I will pray with my mind also; I will sing praise with my spirit, but I will sing with my mind also. Otherwise, if you give thanks with your spirit, how can anyone in the position of an outsider say “Amen” to your thanksgiving when he does not know what you are saying? For you may be giving thanks well enough, but the other person is not being built up. I thank God that I speak in tongues more than all of you. Nevertheless, in church I would rather speak five words with my mind in order to instruct others, than ten thousand words in a tongue.
43 posted on 04/10/2024 11:24:35 PM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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To: bigbob
They were actually just imitating Kamala Harris

So where are the leftists freaking out about biden speaking in tongues all the time?

Have they ever heard him give a speech?

44 posted on 04/10/2024 11:26:10 PM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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To: Scrambler Bob
But the Holy Spirit knows it, and satan does not.

Well, since Satan himself was once an unfallen angel, I would expect he's be familiar with any language that angels might speak.

Besides the idea that tongues is a language that Satan cannot understand has absolutely ZERO Scriptural support.

I don't know where that concept came from or who invented it, but it is NOT found in Scripture.

45 posted on 04/10/2024 11:32:47 PM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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To: Beowulf9

Good catch.

It’s not the first time-

#8.
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4230132/posts?q=1&;page=1


46 posted on 04/10/2024 11:51:05 PM PDT by Freest Republican (This space for rent)
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To: Freest Republican

Huh. Wonder if he’s a paid operative.


47 posted on 04/11/2024 12:00:21 AM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: Beowulf9

After I pointed out certain posters only post M-F 9-5 and are obviously paid it led to my second or third banning. I Generally I respect private property and currently avoid calling out folks as paid posters by name.


48 posted on 04/11/2024 12:50:35 AM PDT by Freest Republican (This space for rent)
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To: joesbucks

evidently someone with a poor understanding of tongues. The sole example in the new testament was
Peter preaching to 3000 people who each heard him in their native tongue, the purpose of tongues is to be understood.


49 posted on 04/11/2024 5:04:23 AM PDT by rottweiller_inc
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To: joesbucks

I’m pretty sure that some of the posts on this thread are tantamount to blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. One should be very careful about that — especially if otherwise well-informed in the scriptures. Such people should know better.


50 posted on 04/11/2024 6:30:15 AM PDT by Migraine ( )
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To: Migraine

Blasphemy in what way?


51 posted on 04/11/2024 6:47:03 AM PDT by joesbucks (For 2,000 years Christians have been warning of the Anti-Christ. Now they buy Bibles from him. )
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To: metmom

He’s under influence of the Holy Spirit?


52 posted on 04/11/2024 6:52:39 AM PDT by joesbucks (For 2,000 years Christians have been warning of the Anti-Christ. Now they buy Bibles from him. )
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To: joesbucks

Not implying that at all.

It’s just hypocritical for the left to condemn praying in tongues when Christians do it, and pass it off as if it didn’t happen when biden does it.

Besides, speaking in tongues is not exclusive to Christianity. It happens in other religions, too. It can be faked at the very least.


53 posted on 04/11/2024 7:40:43 AM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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To: metmom; piasa

Let’s see how this goes - - -

I have never found scripture that satan CAN understand tongues (See v. 2 below).

Meanwhile, I see ‘public’ tongues, requiring interpretation, and ‘private’ prayer language tongues.

I believe both are addressed here; my thoughts in ( ):

1 Cor 14
1 Pursue love, and desire spiritual gifts, but especially that you may prophesy.

2 For he who speaks in a tongue does not speak to men but to God, for no one understands him; however, in the spirit he speaks mysteries.
(Note - no one understands him, should include satan)

3 But he who prophesies speaks edification and exhortation and comfort to men.

4 He who speaks in a tongue edifies himself, but he who prophesies edifies the church.
(Private prayer language)

5 I wish you all spoke with tongues, but even more that you prophesied; [a]for he who prophesies is greater than he who speaks with tongues, unless indeed he interprets, that the church may receive edification.

6 But now, brethren, if I come to you speaking with tongues, what shall I profit you unless I speak to you either by revelation, by knowledge, by prophesying, or by teaching?

7 Even things without life, whether flute or harp, when they make a sound, unless they make a distinction in the sounds, how will it be known what is piped or played?

8 For if the trumpet makes an uncertain sound, who will prepare for battle?

9 So likewise you, unless you utter by the tongue words easy to understand, how will it be known what is spoken? For you will be speaking into the air.

10 There are, it may be, so many kinds of languages in the world, and none of them is without [b]significance.

11 Therefore, if I do not know the meaning of the language, I shall be a [c]foreigner to him who speaks, and he who speaks will be a foreigner to me.

12 Even so you, since you are [d]zealous for spiritual gifts, let it be for the [e]edification of the church that you seek to excel.

13 Therefore let him who speaks in a tongue pray that he may interpret.

14 For if I pray in a tongue, my spirit prays, but my understanding is unfruitful.
(private prayer language)

15 What is the conclusion then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will also pray with the understanding. I will sing with the spirit, and I will also sing with the understanding.
(Praying with the spirit is not praying with understanding)

16 Otherwise, if you bless with the spirit, how will he who occupies the place of the uninformed say “Amen” at your giving of thanks, since he does not understand what you say?

17 For you indeed give thanks well, but the other is not edified.

18 I thank my God I speak with tongues more than you all;
( I don’t think Paul ever wrote: Here’s the interpretation of my thousands of words in tongues. . . . He wrote with his understanding. His thousands of words would be his private prayers)

19 yet in the church I would rather speak five words with my understanding, that I may teach others also, than ten thousand words in a tongue.
(in the church understanding is preferred. Without understanding would be outside the church)


54 posted on 04/11/2024 8:13:48 AM PDT by Scrambler Bob (Running Rampant, and not endorsing nonsense)
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To: metmom
Not implying that at all.

and pass it off as if it didn’t happen when biden does it.

55 posted on 04/11/2024 8:15:08 AM PDT by joesbucks (For 2,000 years Christians have been warning of the Anti-Christ. Now they buy Bibles from him. )
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To: Scrambler Bob

I am familiar with 1 Corinthians 14.

However, just because Scripture doesn’t say something it not possible, doesn’t give anyone license to make something up and claim it to be true because it can’t be disproved by Scripture.

Yet that is EXACTLY what the *Satan can’t understand tongues* theology is doing. It’s an assumption. Mostly rationalization for encouraging praying in tongues. And on ONE verse that tells us that Satan can’t understand it.

Not only that, Paul only references praying in tongues, that he did it. We are never commanded to do it in Scripture. Nor does Scripture tell us it’s a *heavenly language*. And IIRC, it’s the only place where it is mentioned. It just mentions that it happened, just like Paul mentions that the Corinthians were being baptized for the dead.

Mentioning it does not endorse it nor does mentioning it give instructions on how to practice it.


56 posted on 04/11/2024 8:21:33 AM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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To: ConservativeMind

This guy publicly prayed in tongues with a bunch of people, Christian and non-Christian, around him, with no interpreter.
= =

But he wasn’t “in Church” and thus maybe didn’t need an interpreter.


57 posted on 04/11/2024 8:25:48 AM PDT by Scrambler Bob (Running Rampant, and not endorsing nonsense)
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To: joesbucks

I said that tongue in cheek, in case you haven’t figured that out.

In no way was that meant to mean that I thought the gibberish coming out of biden’s mouth was the legitimate gift of tongues.


58 posted on 04/11/2024 8:26:28 AM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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To: Migraine

1 cor 12: 3 Therefore I make known to you that no one speaking by the Spirit of God calls Jesus [c]accursed, and no one can say that Jesus is Lord except by the Holy Spirit.


59 posted on 04/11/2024 8:29:15 AM PDT by Scrambler Bob (Running Rampant, and not endorsing nonsense)
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To: joesbucks

“That’s the only way to get to the Lord. He don’t answer if you just say ‘Hey Lord!’.....You got to speak in a tongue!”

https://youtu.be/mRHBPa25odE?t=156


60 posted on 04/11/2024 8:30:24 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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