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Arizona House Votes to Repeal Abortion Ban, Three Republicans Join Democrats to Allow Killing Babies
Life News ^ | April 24, 2024 | Steven Ertelt

Posted on 04/24/2024 1:01:04 PM PDT by Morgana

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That sucks!
1 posted on 04/24/2024 1:01:04 PM PDT by Morgana
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To: Morgana

Kari Lake asked them to, she wants to minimize the abortion issue.


2 posted on 04/24/2024 1:13:41 PM PDT by nbenyo
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To: Morgana
Now playing in Phoenix!

3 posted on 04/24/2024 1:16:57 PM PDT by budj (Combat vet, second of three generations.)
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To: Morgana

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-says-arizona-abortion-ruling-went-far-rcna147217

“Yeah, they did,” Trump said about the court’s judges when he was asked whether they went too far. “That’ll be straightened out, and as you know it’s all about states’ rights.”

He predicted that Arizona’s governor and others “are going to bring it back into reason.”


4 posted on 04/24/2024 1:18:36 PM PDT by JSM_Liberty
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To: Morgana

So, it sucks.

You cannot go from one extreme to the other without friction.

Several generations of Americans have had abortion on demand shape their lives, right or wrong (wrong IMO).

It will take time to change the mindset of people. Several generations will likely have to pass before attitudes are slowly changed to reject abortion for the most part.

Yeah, it sucks, but it’s the reality we have.


5 posted on 04/24/2024 1:19:30 PM PDT by Pox (Eff You China. Buy American!)
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"Democrats prevailed on the vote to repeal the law because three Republicans joined them, including Matt Gress, Tim Dunn, and Justin Wilmeth.
6 posted on 04/24/2024 1:24:09 PM PDT by fidelis (👈 Under no obligation to respond to rude, ignorant, abusive, bellicose, and obnoxious posts.)
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To: nbenyo

“Kari Lake asked them to, she wants to minimize the abortion issue.”

Shortsighted and stupid. Here’s the problem:

If the Democrats could wave a magic wand and make free abortion on demand legal in all 50 states with no exceptions, some Republicans — like Lake — would think they are oh-so-smart and go along with that scheme for tactical reasons, i.e. to “minimize the issue” by supposedly keeping it off of election ballots forever. After all, the issue would be “settled” at that point.

Bzzzt! Wrong!

Even if that magic wand was waved, Democrats would STILL energize their satanic voters in EVERY election from there on out by alleging that “you must keep voting for Democrats or those evil Republicans will TAKE AWAY YOUR RIGHTS!”

Because it been so wildly effective for the left, even in “red” states, abortion will from now on ALWAYS be on the ballot in every election, explicitly or not.

You don’t win by caving, Kari. In fact, *you* don’t win at all.


7 posted on 04/24/2024 1:52:47 PM PDT by PermaRag (Joo Biden is not my President)
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To: Pox

It will eventually peter out without being banned, somewhat like smoking. But it will take a lot of education, gruesome graphic images and videos to change enough libs’ minds.


8 posted on 04/24/2024 2:03:39 PM PDT by rfp1234 (E Porcibus Unum )
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To: budj

...their time is almost up, God has had enough and will take action against America soon to stop it, as we are unable to govern ourselves for the greater good.


9 posted on 04/24/2024 2:09:12 PM PDT by JJBookman (Democrats = Party of the end)
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To: Morgana

What kind of mother would not hesitate to give their life for their child????? Apparently a bunch of MAGA moms.
Their children must be proud to know who really matters.
#EarnMyProLifeVote


10 posted on 04/24/2024 2:30:50 PM PDT by momincombatboots (BQEphesians 6... who you are really at war with.)
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To: Morgana

Demoncrazy triumphant!


11 posted on 04/24/2024 2:36:02 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (Every Goliath has his David. Child in need of a CGM system. https://gofund.me/6452dbf1. )
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To: Morgana

Law is not about morality. Jesus said that while God hates divorce, God allowed it in Israel’s law “because your hearts were hard.”

The moral issue is clear, but we need to win the argument and not try to push too far past what the majority will accept. If we push for too much too fast, we WILL get abortions to 9 months, and maybe beyond.


12 posted on 04/24/2024 2:41:47 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (We're a nation of feelings, not thoughts.)
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To: nbenyo
Ah, so how you vote is based on a political calculation rather than on principals or ethics.
I'm not saying that it's the wrong thing to do ... in fact, it's likely a necessary thing to do.
I'm just making an observation on how things work in our "enlightened, modern" society.
13 posted on 04/24/2024 2:44:57 PM PDT by glennaro (2024: The Year of The Reckoning, lest our Republic succumb to the "progressive" disease of the Left)
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To: JJBookman

I fear you are correct.


14 posted on 04/24/2024 3:31:03 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: PermaRag

>>”If the Democrats could wave a magic wand and make free abortion on demand legal in all 50 states with no exceptions, some Republicans — like Lake — would think they are oh-so-smart and go along with that scheme for tactical reasons,”

That’s simply incorrect and does not represent Kari Lake’s position nor that of many Republicans who think that reinstituting a law from around 150 years ago was not only a mistake, politically speaking, but, considering it made no exceptions for life of the mother, morally wrong.

And let me emphasize why allowing the old law to stand would have been a political blunder. The bottom line is that the old law was always going to be repealed one way or another, if not by the legislature then by voter referendum soon after the November election. Arizona is a swing state with a majority of voters believing the old law is too extreme. If we were talking about Wyoming or some other deeply red state, that might not be the case but it is in AZ. Repealing it now, rather than pushing repeal until after the election very possibly could have resulted in Trump losing the state and Kari Lake losing the senate seat to whichever lunatic Democrat she’ll be facing.

Now if abortion is the only issue that matters to you then I’d say you’re right to react the way you are, if it weren’t for the fact that your short-sided all or nothing approach
will often do more harm than good to the pro-life cause and lead to more abortions, not less.


15 posted on 04/24/2024 3:39:04 PM PDT by mbrfl
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To: nbenyo
"Kari Lake asked them to, she wants to minimize the abortion issue."

Not only her...

Arriving for a campaign fundraiser in Atlanta, Trump said the Arizona court decision went too far and called on state lawmakers to change it even as he defended the U.S. Supreme Court's 2022 ruling overturning of Roe v. Wade.

"It's all about states' rights," the former president told supporters and journalists. "It'll be straightened out."

Citation.

16 posted on 04/24/2024 3:39:13 PM PDT by truthkeeper
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To: glennaro

one issue voters marginalize themselves and in the process lose any credibility they may have on society at large. many of the one issue maroons posting here use terms like principals or conscience but in society at large these terms mean absolutely nothing. by all means vote your conscience but if your side loses over and over and you can’t get even a foothold against the other side just remember the 1st rule of insanity. fyi...my personal position is killing babies before they can even take their first breath is evil and immoral but lesson one for ANYONE who believes in doing the right thing is simple...you can’t TELL other people what to do. when you do they just shun you. that’s just how real life works. just my 2


17 posted on 04/24/2024 3:44:43 PM PDT by Qwapisking ("IF the Second goes first the First goes second" L.Star n )
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To: Morgana

It takes all kinds to kill innocent, defenseless Americans.


18 posted on 04/24/2024 3:52:13 PM PDT by chopperk
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To: budj

Pretty much


19 posted on 04/24/2024 4:55:02 PM PDT by ducttape45 (Proverbs 14:34, "Righteousness exalteth a nation: but sin is a reproach to any people.")
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To: Morgana

It sucks in the sense that now the argument can be made without washing nearly all the Republicans out of government, and allowing *unlimited* abortion when the Democrats *fix* it.


20 posted on 04/24/2024 5:31:19 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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