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To: drot
An immediate and constant fruit of this faith whereby we are born of God, a fruit which can in no wise be separated from it, no, not for an hour, is power over sin; -- power over outward sin of every kind; over every evil word and work

This is where many people turn their backs on God because, who, please find me one, can obtain this standard, especially because the Word says that if we even think the thought . . .

In my humble opinion, the New Birth is all about atonement for sin, not about abolishing it. All have sinned and come short of the Glory of God. Jesus was our atonement, our covering and reconciliation to God, because we have all sinned and none can, therefore, enter His presence with sin. And the New Birth is acceptance of this fact and the resulting Lordship of Christ because of it. Whether we sin or not.

93 posted on 09/07/2001 12:01:05 AM PDT by LoneGreenEyeshade
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To: LoneGreenEyeshade
In my humble opinion, well, the humble don't last too long around here, it seems. But welcome. And I did enjoy your post very much.
108 posted on 09/07/2001 6:02:45 AM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: LoneGreenEyeshade
You need to read I John 2:1 and see the purpose of WHY John is doing or writting to these people. Then also go to the book of Romans Chapters 6,7,8 and read what Paul has to say about it. And maybe especially this

Rom 5:20-6:1

"Rom 6:1-4

I am not trying to preach at you or belittle you. Just trying to help. I would be very interest in carrying on a discussion on victory over temptation and sin. Please now !!! This DOES NOT mean you are EVER going to have TEMPTATION or EVER SIN AGAIN.

Be blessed

don

134 posted on 09/07/2001 11:59:14 AM PDT by drot
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To: LoneGreenEyeshade
Ditto your #93.
136 posted on 09/07/2001 12:14:28 PM PDT by the_doc
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