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Fireworks for the few, Whitehouse feared crowd. (No need for everyone to enjoy[Tax Dollars at work])
Fireworks for the few, Whitehouse feared crowd. (No need for everyone to enjoy[Tax Dollars at work]) ^ | 9-05-01 | Matt Drudge

Posted on 09/05/2001 11:00:01 PM PDT by Libertarian_4_eva

XXXXX DRUDGE REPORT XXXXX WED SEPT 05, 2001 22:31:58 ET XXXXX

FIREWORKS FOR THE FEW, WHITE HOUSE FEARED CROWD; COST ESTIMATED IN SIX-FIGURES

Taxpayers may have footed the bill, but White House officials wanted no pre-publicity for a massive fireworks display on The Mall Wednesday night celebrating President Bush's first State Dinner.

The common man was not invited to view the 20-minute fireworks display launched from The Ellipse, described as one of the most dazzling in the city's history.

Officials feared tens of thousands of residents and visitors would gather to watch the show if word leaked out, creating a "security concern" around the executive mansion.

The president and his guests watched the fireworks from the White House's South Balcony.

The cost of the display is said to be $175,000 to $250,000.

A source connected to the Pennsylvania pyrotechnic company responsible for lighting the fireworks, Zambelli Fireworks Internationale, told the DRUDGE REPORT show fees ran into "six figures".

With just 136 invited guests at the White House -- the price tag for the fireworks alone was well north of $1,200 per attendee.

A White House spokesman refused comment on the financing of the fireworks.

The secret fireworks show caught residents by complete surprise.

One local e-mailed: "From my apartment, I just witnessed the most amazing fireworks I have seen in my twenty years in Washington."

A second eyewitness described the show as being "one of the very best fireworks displays I've ever seen.

"The display I saw tonight had many, *many* fancier fireworks than the ones used on the Fourth of July. Tonight there were fireworks that shot up, in three colors, a sort of planet, with a ring around it in another color; a firework that shot off a central band of white explosion and a sort of wheat-sheaf of fireworks in other colors both above and below the band; a firework that shot off hundreds of massive white streamers each of then exploded into five more small streamers. I go into this detail only to say how fancy and beautiful the whole thing was."

Park police estimated less than 100 people quickly gathered to watch from public space surrounding The Ellipse.

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I am glad the powerful got to enjoy them without letting the little people that paid the bill even get a chance of catching the whole thing.
1 posted on 09/05/2001 11:00:01 PM PDT by Libertarian_4_eva
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To: animus
"I cant wait to hear the spin on how taxpayers should not be allowed to see what they paid for."

Cmon, the Republican's were out of the White House for eight years. Don't they deserve a nice party?

3 posted on 09/05/2001 11:11:04 PM PDT by libertarian_usa
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To: Libertarian_4_eva
Oh please! Can't you do better than this? LOL!
A state dinner honoring a visiting Foreign leader costs money, always has, always will, and this probably didn't cost nearly as much as some have, as if it matters! Sheesh!
4 posted on 09/05/2001 11:11:40 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: animus
Do they really deserve to see them? Bush should have told all of DC to turn around and not look for 20 minutes. How discusting all of the little people wanting in on some of the fun.
5 posted on 09/05/2001 11:11:51 PM PDT by Libertarian_4_eva
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To: Libertarian_4_eva
They didn't turn anyone away, they just didn't advertise it to avoid the cost of crowd control. After all Washington DC is the murder capitol of our country as well as the governing one.
6 posted on 09/05/2001 11:12:04 PM PDT by A CA Guy
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To: Libertarian_4_eva
In DC on a Wednesday night, the little people are the crack users and other junkies, hookers, various other refugees from the criminal justice system, diplomats, interns (those not banging Democratic congressmen and Hillary), and other government hacks. No need to tell them anything since they don't pay taxes, they just suck down tax dollars.
7 posted on 09/05/2001 11:12:15 PM PDT by LenS
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To: Libertarian_4_eva
The cost of the display is said to be $175,000 to $250,000.

Small govt? Cutting taxes? HA! Shame on Republicans and "conservatives" alike. Shame on Liberals, too - INDEED, SHAME ON ALL HYPOCRITES.

8 posted on 09/05/2001 11:13:24 PM PDT by libertarian_usa
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To: Libertarian_4_eva, animus, libertarian_usa, A CA Guy, LenS
I have to agree with the sentiments that this is a huge waste of taxpayer money... Then again, most of what DC does is!

If it were x42 hosting this dinner and having a "private" fireworks show, the Republicans -- and Freepers -- would be all over him for it.

Instead of wasting MY TAX DOLLARS on fireworks, how about a REAL tax cut!!!

Bush voter who is increasingly disappointed, regardless of how many times people mention the alternative to his being in office.

9 posted on 09/05/2001 11:19:33 PM PDT by TexRef
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To: ladyinred
Oh please! Can't you do better than this? LOL! A state dinner honoring a visiting Foreign leader costs money, always has, always will, and this probably didn't cost nearly as much as some have, as if it matters! Sheesh!

I am not talking about the state dinner. I am talking about having the decency to let others who pay the bills know about a fireworks display that could have been enjoyed by many people.

Officials feared tens of thousands of residents and visitors would gather to watch the show if word leaked out, creating a "security concern" around the executive mansion.

Thats right no need to slow down the important people who came to the dinner with crowds of taxpayers who would have loved to see the whole entire thing.
10 posted on 09/05/2001 11:20:34 PM PDT by Libertarian_4_eva
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To: Libertarian_4_eva
I've had a number of dinner parties at my home. I've found that desert is cheaper than fireworks, and usually does a better job of satisfying the guests.
11 posted on 09/05/2001 11:25:55 PM PDT by 537 Votes
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To: libertarian_usa
Cmon, the Republican's were out of the White House for eight years. Don't they deserve a nice party?

Oh, please. I can't stand hypocrisy. Can any of you defending this *honestly* tell me that you wouldn't be one of the ones screaming if the story was "Clinton White House spends 6 figures on fireworks display for State Dinner guests. Keeps public in the dark."?

12 posted on 09/05/2001 11:25:57 PM PDT by saquin
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To: saquin
"Can any of you defending this *honestly*"

Oh please, yourself.

Turning it around doesn't change a thing. Yes, I would be saying the same thing. Why would you ask such a thing? To prove your own hypocrisy, while unable to prove mine?

13 posted on 09/05/2001 11:28:10 PM PDT by libertarian_usa
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To: TexRef
Bush voter who is increasingly disappointed, regardless of how many times people mention the alternative to his being in office.

Well, the alternative to him being in office is water under the bridge. We need to start thinking about the alternative to him being in office after 2004. What I mean is, maybe we can find a better, more conservative Republican.

All it takes is one governor or senator to come forward and oppose illegal immigration, and Bush will not be renominated.

14 posted on 09/05/2001 11:30:45 PM PDT by 537 Votes
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To: ladyinred
By the way, our guy saves the money big time:


The Clinton China is set on tables in the State Dinning Room of the White House, Wednesday, Sept. 5, 2001, for the state dinner for Mexican President Vincente Fox. President Bush's culinary preferences are decidedly down-home: spicy meat steaming with the wood-soaked smoke of the fiery pit. But don't look for ribs and coleslaw when he gives his first state dinner Wednesday night: decorum trumps domestic, said the spokeswoman for the first lady, who is organizing the feast for Fox. (AP Photo/Ron Edmonds)

15 posted on 09/05/2001 11:36:23 PM PDT by CommiesOut
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To: Libertarian_4_eva
I am glad the powerful got to enjoy them without letting the little people that paid the bill even get a chance of catching the whole thing.
What did they do...put a curtain up around the mall so the little people couldn't see the fireworks??? Sheesh.
16 posted on 09/05/2001 11:36:42 PM PDT by E=MC<sup>2</sup>
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To: E=MC&lt;sup&gt;2&lt;/sup&gt;
No they spent our money without giving us a chance of seeing it because they did not want to slow down their friends trip home. Have you ever heard of any fireworks display that was kept from the public that was paid for by tax dollars? No I thought not!
17 posted on 09/05/2001 11:43:07 PM PDT by Libertarian_4_eva
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To: libertarian_usa
Sure, but not one that included fireworks at a cost of between $175K and $250K in addition to the food and decorations for the party. My portion of the taxes that helped pay for the fireworks could have been better spent in support of FreeRepublic.com.
19 posted on 09/05/2001 11:46:23 PM PDT by Dixielander
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To: Libertarian_4_eva
I suppose some of these people here feel that they deserved to be at the dinner too? Do you guys feel obligated to ride on Air Force One as well? That cost is nothing compared to what it would have cost to set up security for the mass crowds that might have showed up.
The President has taste, along with his wife. I guess if they would have welcomed President Fox wearing flip-flops and cutoffs, served mayonnaise sandwiches and Kool-Aid, would some people here on FR be happy.
20 posted on 09/05/2001 11:50:05 PM PDT by GOPyouth
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To: whoever
Leeches.
21 posted on 09/05/2001 11:52:14 PM PDT by Aerial
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To: GOPyouth
"That cost is nothing compared to what it would have cost to set up security for the mass crowds that might have showed up."

DUH! So why WASTE OUR TAXPAYER DOLLARS ON THE FIREWORKS AT ALL?

You are making this to easy.

22 posted on 09/05/2001 11:52:25 PM PDT by libertarian_usa
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To: libertarian_usa
That's right. George and Laura should have just handed out sparklers for their guests to wave around. Probably cost under ten dollars too...
23 posted on 09/05/2001 11:55:18 PM PDT by Utah Girl
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To: libertarian_usa
DUH! So why WASTE OUR TAXPAYER DOLLARS ON THE FIREWORKS AT ALL?

Because it's so darned easy to do when you have no conscience.

24 posted on 09/06/2001 12:02:09 AM PDT by Aerial
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To: Utah Girl
"That's right. George and Laura should have just handed out sparklers for their guests to wave around. Probably cost under ten dollars too..."

Why not backyard T-Ball?

25 posted on 09/06/2001 12:10:23 AM PDT by libertarian_usa
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To: libertarian_usa
DUH! So why WASTE OUR TAXPAYER DOLLARS ON THE FIREWORKS AT ALL? You are making this to easy.

Like I said, let's just have a good ol' trashy state dinner.. maybe serve some red kool-aid, some of Velma's "Out of the World" bologna casserole..Maybe watch an episode of Sanford and Son, and play a game of bones for entertainment. That's not how you host a state dinner.
Yes, I do make this easy. Good taste and etiquette is not hard to learn.

27 posted on 09/06/2001 12:23:27 AM PDT by GOPyouth
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To: ladyinred
Well, now I understand the photo. There was a few invited democratics (that's how they want to be called). It must be a table for Daschle, Gephardt and AP reporter.
I hope their food was cold, beer warm, and they were led to a dark room during the fireworks.

Our guys, no doubt, had the Reagan China.

28 posted on 09/06/2001 12:25:34 AM PDT by CommiesOut
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To: 537 Votes
We need to start thinking about the alternative to him being in office after 2004. What I mean is, maybe we can find a better, more conservative Republican.

Who?

29 posted on 09/06/2001 12:31:52 AM PDT by Texasforever
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To: GOPyouth
"That's not how you host a state dinner. Yes, I do make this easy. Good taste and etiquette is not hard to learn."

A SIX FIGURE (taxpayer expense) fireworks show is needed for elegance and good taste?

Tell the truth, GOPyouth, your a Bush intern, aren't you?

30 posted on 09/06/2001 12:38:37 AM PDT by libertarian_usa
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To: Libertarian_4_eva, all
Oh, dear me...$250,000? Really? How perfectly horrible. It boggles my mind that our government could or would have ever wasted such an astronomical sum as a quarter million dollars. It makes me feel good to think they've never wasted any more than that...doesn't it you all?
31 posted on 09/06/2001 12:51:42 AM PDT by RichInOC
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To: anylib
'No need for everyone to enjoy' READ: Me. Me me me me

They want to blast off some works for a meeting between two hemispheric giants as a celebration without causing a security nightmare in the most dangerous city in America and all these posters can think about is me, my money, my hurt feelings. Life ain't fair get over it. When you are the president, or dictator, you'll have plenty of time to show us how great you are. In fact, I'm a worthy cause, give Me your money because your car pollutes. Geesh, 12 trillion dollar economy and Bush can't throw a party. Liberals suck.

32 posted on 09/06/2001 12:56:18 AM PDT by Darheel
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To: Libertarian_4_eva
I am so fed up with strutting presidents and their monarchial pretensions. Fie on Bush, whose most telling quote to date is: "Who cares what you think?"

Sorry, but Bush is turning out to be exactly what I long believed he was: a favored feckless child. God Poppy must be near delerious from the joy of getting his little poppinjay in the White House, as if his own administration - which threw away the heritage of the "Reagan Revolution" wasn't enough. But then, Poppy as Veep, was David Rockefeller's "compromise" with Reagan all those years ago. Sad.

33 posted on 09/06/2001 4:31:09 AM PDT by Anochka
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To: Anochka
"Taxpayers may have footed the bill..."

may have footed the bill

let's wait until all the facts are in....and even if we did, compare the cost of this dinner to any of Klinton's and you'll probably find this pales in comparison..if the money had been used for entertainment indoors instead, do you expect to have been invited too?

34 posted on 09/06/2001 7:46:40 AM PDT by MaskedMan
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To: Libertarian_4_eva
Bush is becoming revealed to be all the more an elitist snob just like Clinton... albeit with better manners.
35 posted on 09/06/2001 7:53:34 AM PDT by Darth Sidious
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To: ladyinred
This matters. "Security concerns" from folks coming out to watch fireworks is silly.

Lousy treatment of John Q. Public and our tax money.

Dear Mr. GW Bush -- that money y'all used el noche pasado was our money. Not yours.

36 posted on 09/06/2001 8:00:02 AM PDT by bvw
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To: Darth Sidious
ALL...Owners of power, will be served. This knows no party lines. The little people be damned.
37 posted on 09/06/2001 8:05:48 AM PDT by cynicom
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To: Aerial
I don't wanna hear it!! After Clinton spent how many millions sightseeing all over the darned world with everybody he was sucking up to in tow. You idiots make me furious. I don't have to remind you of what that Felon and Mrs. Carpetbagger took us all for.....fools and $$$$$$$$$$. State dinners are part of the gig. Shut up!!!
38 posted on 09/06/2001 8:08:34 AM PDT by wingnuts'nbolts
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To: GOPyouth
That cost is nothing compared to what it would have cost to set up security for the mass crowds that might have showed up.

You are begging the question. The question is why this expenditure was deemed appropriate in the first place.

The President has taste, along with his wife.

Sorry, but this is OTT. Such garish and wretched excess, such conspicuous consumption, may be impressive, but expenditures of this magnitude are frankly indecent and insulting not only to the taxpayers who footed the bill, but to any sensitive and discerning guest. It's about as far from "good taste" as you can get.

39 posted on 09/06/2001 8:22:53 AM PDT by Romulus
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To: John Harris
You may be right about that, but the Republican Party will not give you the opportunity to vote for a Presidential candidate opposed to "illegal immigration." The people who pay the bills - the big-money contributors - like illegal immigration.

All it takes is $100 from one million Americans, and you've got $100 million -- more than the average presidential campaign gets, and more than enough to counter the effects of 'Big Money.'

There are 270 million Americans. Americans spend $100 a year on basic cable. They spend $100 a year on espresso and/or cigarettes. Come on, are you saying there aren't even one million patriotic Americans who can afford to sacrifice just $100 for a cause to save the country?

Well, if they can't afford to spend $100, how can they afford to lose their country?

If even just a million Americans can't be found to donate a mere $100 to the right cause, then we deserve whatever Big Money Contributors give us.

It's ridiculous that a handful of namby-pamby moderates with zero constituency are able to make the Republican Party jump through hoops, while millions of supposedly God-fearing, patriotic Americans seethe about being 'shut out' of the political process. The only thing that's shutting us out is our own sense of defeatism! Let's just sit back and wait for the Rapture, huh? And if you don't believe in the Rapture, then I guess you're just waiting for the Gestapo to take you away without a fight. Or what are you waiting for, that you always find an excuse not to lift a finger to defend the cause of liberty?

40 posted on 09/06/2001 9:31:35 AM PDT by 537 Votes
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To: Texasforever
We need to start thinking about the alternative to him being in office after 2004. What I mean is, maybe we can find a better, more conservative Republican.

Who?

If I knew, I wouldn't have written, "Maybe we can find . . . . " Okay, let me act like the all-knowing field commander, without a shred of doubt. And I still don't know.

But this is how I envision the process should go:

1. We need to form some kind of organization -- maybe several organizations -- that will act in concert to oppose illegal immigration.

2. Rather than collect money and pass it on to candidates, these organizations will instead carefully examine candidates for their voting records, and inform members of who to donate their money toward. This will sidestep campaign spending limit problems.

3. All we need is a million people willing to donate $100 each, and we've got enough to wage a presidential campaign as big as what the Democrats or Republicans put on.

4. Our goal is takeover of the Republican Party. Weed out the moderates in the primaries, support the most conservative candidates in the elections. After the elections, of course, we'll be willing to work with the moderates, because we have no choice at that point. But before the elections -- we fight, just as they fight.

5. Form an ad hoc committee to identify possible presidential candidates to run in challenge to President Bush in for the 2004 Republican Party presidential nomination. Make the investigative process exhaustive and detailed, so that we don't learn about DUIs one week before the election.

6. Throw as much united support as we can behind that one candidate who emerges from the selection process, so that he can win the primaries. What we don't want is the conservative vote split among several candidates, so that they cancel each other out and a Dole-type walks away with the nomination as in 1996. In 2004, the Dole-type will be the President of the United States, and have a tremendous advantage. To topple him from the nomination, we must be united!

7. Stick the Democrat in the general election campaign as a supporter of illegal immigration as his means of demagoguery and vote-buying. Make normally Democrat voters realize that if the illegals get the power to vote, they'll suffer far more than rich Republicans.

Indeed, that'll be the strategy: our candidate is the anti-Republican Republican. That is, where the common defintion of a Republican is someone who plays golf at the country club, our definition is someone who actually believes in freedom and justice -- and in something higher than his own short-term material gain.

To sum up: the answer to 'Who?' is Us. WE have to set up a movement that can seek out the best candidate. In the past, we've waited for the best candidate to come to us, and so far he hasn't. In the future, we need to go out and find the candidate.

And remember, this isn't an impossible task. Remember, Bill Clinton was only governor of Arkansas, and virtually unknown on the national stage a year before he became President. Among the thirty or so Republican governors out there, it's quite possible that one of them has been quietly doing a spectacular job, and we can find him. Even in the most incompetent organizations, there are always a few stellar performers who don't get weeded out by the good old boy network. We need to find that guy, and in order to do that, we need to set up a process to find him. I hope we'll do that before 2004 rolls around, or we may not have a chance to affect elections for decades to come.

41 posted on 09/06/2001 9:59:49 AM PDT by 537 Votes
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To: E=MC&lt;sup&gt;2&lt;/sup&gt;
yeah, and fired them into the ground so they wouldnt be seen too!!! lol
42 posted on 09/06/2001 10:33:58 AM PDT by mag
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To: E=MC&lt;sup&gt;2&lt;/sup&gt;
On all the shows on cable yesterday, ALL DURING THE DAY, Mrs. Bush talked about having FIREWORKS after the dinner.
43 posted on 09/06/2001 10:44:09 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin
Plus, they were setting up the fireworks all day long. That kind of thing is hard to hide.
44 posted on 09/06/2001 11:39:33 AM PDT by Utah Girl
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To: wingnuts'nbolts
I don't wanna hear it!! After Clinton spent how many millions sightseeing all over the darned world with everybody he was sucking up to in tow. You idiots make me furious. I don't have to remind you of what that Felon and Mrs. Carpetbagger took us all for.....fools and $$$$$$$$$$. State dinners are part of the gig. Shut up!!!

Free speech...buddy. (why don't we just "move along"?)

45 posted on 09/06/2001 12:57:41 PM PDT by Aerial
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To: libertarian_usa
Tell the truth, GOPyouth, your a Bush intern, aren't you?

Would be nice to snag a job at the White House when I graduate this December. ;)

46 posted on 09/06/2001 1:03:07 PM PDT by GOPyouth
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To: Aerial
Great! Now move along!
47 posted on 09/06/2001 1:12:02 PM PDT by wingnuts'nbolts
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To: Libertarian_4_eva
Bush supporters, like myself, have a right to publicly complain about a waste of money. This was a state dinner and musical entertainment was certainly appropriate.

If the American taxpayer is intentionally not invited to watch an expensive fireworks display, for which he/she PAID, in the skies over America's capitol city, it is an insult to the little guy and NOT in the best spirit of America. It has the stench of European monarchies sequestered in the Palace of Versailles.

Further, my joy in Bush's winning the presidency is not to be taken for granted nor a license for more of the government waste practiced by Clinton or anyone else. We want Bush's NEW TONE in Washington. Part of that NEW TONE is greater respect for the hard-earned money of taxpayers.

48 posted on 09/06/2001 2:57:58 PM PDT by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: Libertarian_4_eva
Pretty low of Drudge. SO what??? The clintons used to invite 400 to 700 guests, regularly to their state dinners and what do ya suppose their dinners cost us taxpayers? Not to mention the costs of bringing in ROCK STARS and setting up huge tents and giving out costly party favors. The clintons NEVER EVER reported the costs of their state dinners-I would LOVE to know what even ONE OF THEM COST--the CHEAPEST would suffice. But I bet it makes $250,00 gran for fireworks seem paltry.
49 posted on 09/06/2001 3:01:27 PM PDT by Republic
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To: Republic
BTW-the Bush's invited 136. ONE HUNDRED AND THIRTY SIX. Not the clintonesque average SIX HUNDRED!
50 posted on 09/06/2001 3:02:36 PM PDT by Republic
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