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Sep 11, 2001, the SECOND bloodiest day in America (Behind the Battle of Antietam, 1863, 25k+ killed)
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| 11 SEP 01 - the SECOND bloodiest day in America
Posted on 09/11/2001 2:40:22 PM PDT by DCBryan1
Fox News was just on live with NYC official, and they expect 10k+ in fatalities.
This exceeds the bloodiest day in American History, the Battle of Antietam in 1863 during the American Civil War in which there were over 25,000 killed and three times as many wounded.
I think the D-Day invasion and Pearl Harbor, Tarawa, and Iwo Jima top off the next deadliest days in America...
This is a horrible day in America...but as always, we will prevail.
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posted on 09/11/2001 2:40:22 PM PDT
Re-check the math.
A day that will live in infamy.
The final number will approach 50,000.
Was victory in Afghanistan worth this?
Blow back, big time.
posted on 09/11/2001 2:46:32 PM PDT
Antietam was in 1862.
posted on 09/11/2001 2:46:55 PM PDT
To: E. Pluribus Unum
Some did get out. I would be thinking on the order of 10 - 25k. That Antietam figure may be threatened. I hope not!
I want apocalyptic vengeance!!!
posted on 09/11/2001 2:48:24 PM PDT
To: E. Pluribus Unum
By my math, I think (and fear) your number is pretty close.
posted on 09/11/2001 2:48:27 PM PDT
They've not even started counting yet. Each building held over 20,000. Brace yourselves.
posted on 09/11/2001 2:48:35 PM PDT
The buildings did hold at least 50,000 people. But they were able to evacuate for thirty minutes or so, I believe. Look, it isn't going to be good whatever the figure, but I'm hoping it isn't anywhere near what it would have been if they had gone down immediately after the plane strikes.
Each building held over 20,000. Brace yourselves.
Each building could hold up to 25 000, but since it was 18 minutes between events, I would hope that all of the people in the second tower and most on the lower floors of the first tower evacuated.
Even without elevators, the majority had time to get down and away.
Antietam was in 1862.
Damn! That publik skool edukashun in Arkansas....oops.
posted on 09/11/2001 2:54:38 PM PDT
I believe there were 25,000 casulties, (killed, wounded and missing) not 25,000 killed at Antietam.
posted on 09/11/2001 2:55:25 PM PDT
The NY TIMES has reported that the evacuation of the WTC did not begin until the second plane slamed into the WTC.
Don't forget the first days of the Battle of the Bulge, starting Dec. 16th, 1945.
posted on 09/11/2001 3:01:59 PM PDT
As you point out, they had about a half hour to evacuate. A while ago on FNC they spoke with a man that was on the 75th floor (I think) and he said it took him about 25 minutes to go down the stairs and get out. He said that he was a big guy so he took his time, because he didn't want to have a heart attack trying to get out. He said that lots of people passed him as he took time to rest.
So, hopefully many people were able to get out before the collapse.
The Union lost 14K killed, if memory serves.
posted on 09/11/2001 3:03:31 PM PDT
I was talking to someone in tower 2 when they got the word to evacuate. It certainly seemed to me that they started to evacuate before the 2 plane hit.
posted on 09/11/2001 3:08:39 PM PDT
To: ET(end tyranny)
I heard that too. I think that the final casualty figure will be between 6,000 and 8,000.
posted on 09/11/2001 3:11:54 PM PDT
Union- 2010 killed, 9416 wounded, 1043 missing
Confederate- 1890 killed, 9770 wounded, 2304 missing.
posted on 09/11/2001 3:15:05 PM PDT
Today's casualty figures will probably surpass those of the Battle of Sharpsburg (Antietam, to you Yankee partisans). It may even rival our losses in the entire Vietnam War.
To: Taft in '52
It's been a pretty bad day for all of us, Reb.
posted on 09/11/2001 3:39:18 PM PDT
From National Review Online
The death toll of September 11 won't be known for some time it's too early even to have a rough estimate. "I have a sense it's a horrendous number of lives lost," said Mayor Rudolph Giuliani.
Yet it may be possible to grope toward putting the cost of human life into some kind of context. As the number of dead begins to emerge, consider the number of battle deaths the United States suffered in several of its major wars and battles.
Revolutionary War: 4,435
War of 1812: 2,260
Mexican War: 1,733
Battle of Antietam, the Civil War's bloodiest day: 4,710
Pearl Harbor: 2,403
Korean War: 33,651
Thank you Demorat Senator Frank Church and your liberal Senate colleagues who thought back in the 70's that this world was really a Boy Scout Jamboree, that it was mean of us to spy on any other country, held open Senate hearings on our intelligence gathering capabilities giving away the identities of hundreds of those who had helped our information-gathering efforts and were later assassinated, badly crippled our abilities to persuade possible informants to ever trust us again, and set the Country up for the kind of tragedy we see today...Thank you...
Antietam was called the Bloodiest Day because it was a single day battle. Other Battles have been worse, but of multiple days in length.
posted on 09/11/2001 3:51:19 PM PDT
by KC Burke
To: DCBryan1, conservative/not stupid
This was posted earlier here:
"fox news just reported the body count at this time is 100,000 people
55 Posted on 09/11/2001 10:03:50 PDT by conservative/not stupid"
I realize there is a lot of hysteria going on, however, there is a big difference between 10,000 and 100,000. It could well be that no one has any idea yet.
posted on 09/11/2001 3:56:21 PM PDT
To: KC Burke
My point was the number. There is a significant difference between 25,000 and 4,710.
I would expect that the total will be between 10 and 15 thousand. Lots of people got out (despite the locked doors), but everyone above the fires were trapped, and likely hundreds or rescue workers outside of the buildings were killed. I expect that even some were killed when building 7 went down.
This is gonna have a real effect in addition to the terror effect and the direct deaths. Dean Witter had 20 stories worth of people, records, and equipment in the two towers. The Mercantile exchange, where most of the oil, gas, coal, copper, steel, aluminum, and other major resources are sold is in the WTC. This'll disrupt all of that until the alternate site gets set up...and we can be pretty much assured that that won't be at full capability.
posted on 09/11/2001 4:30:07 PM PDT
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