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Are the media excessively sanitizing the pictures from the bombings?
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Posted on 09/13/2001 5:38:30 AM PDT by ken5050

This is an act of war, worse than Pearl Harbor, right? Maybe 40,000 folks have died. Yet we haven't seen a body. I'm not in favor of gore (lower case, no pun intended) and mayhem for it's own sake.....yet at Pearl Harbor we saw the rows of bodies laid on the tarmacs, we saw the burned bodies floating in the water..here, we see pictures of shoes, cell phones, and piles of documents...and it helped to fuel the rage and passion of the American people.


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In a natural disater, I can understand the rationale for self-censorship, but in war, and this is war, the people have a right to see what has been done to their country and loved ones. During the Vietnam war, we were treated every night to pictured of our bloody, maimed, and dead soldiers, in a carefully orchestrated campaign to turn Americans against the war..

Yet now, all we hear are the talking heads blabbering about the pictures that we can't show you..The media is already starting to make the whole thing far too"touchy-feely"....the magnitude of the destruction is almost too large for many people to grasp...consider that more rescuers died in the WTC than all the victims of Oklahoma City.....the pictures of the planes hitting the WTC towers are surreal, almost a video game image...I believe that we need to see up-close, the hard images of what was done to thousands of people.

All the pictures from the scene are long rangew..the rescuers looklike ants, and heavy equipment like Tonka toys....it's supposedly to " to shelter and protect us from harsh images".....well, to me folks, that's pure BS......we need to see up close the horror of the attack, to make sure that it never, ever happens again...

Your thoughts???

1 posted on 09/13/2001 5:38:30 AM PDT by ken5050
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To: Rudder, DB, Kermit
Comments??
2 posted on 09/13/2001 5:46:34 AM PDT by ken5050
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To: ken5050
I heard from a friend who works at CNN in Atlanta that they filter pictures and scenes before broadcasting. If you noticed some of the initial footage (of people jumping from the WTC) was pulled soon after it aired.
3 posted on 09/13/2001 5:48:46 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: ken5050
O'Reilly was scolded by some viewers for showing people flying out of buildings. No wonder one commentator called us a bunch of pansies.

"If ignorance isn't bliss, then I don't know what is." (Frank to Ernest)

4 posted on 09/13/2001 5:50:41 AM PDT by Rudder
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To: ken5050
Good thing! I've seen carnage in person and on video. The video gives me more nightmares. In reality you can actually intellectualize it better and deal with it.
5 posted on 09/13/2001 5:50:58 AM PDT by bvw
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To: ken5050
I think the answer is YES, and that's just fine with me. Over time we will be able so see with our own eyes the utter devastation in NY, DC, and PA.
6 posted on 09/13/2001 5:51:00 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: ken5050
Fox is showing many bios of people who were in the towers, along with interviews with spouses and other family members. I think that's even more powerful than seeing a nameless piece of flesh.
7 posted on 09/13/2001 5:51:48 AM PDT by Tree of Liberty
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To: ken5050
No. Adults understand the devastation and children do not need the nightmares and hardening.
8 posted on 09/13/2001 5:52:05 AM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: ken5050
They can show all kinds of nudity, sex, fake violence, vile language on TV, but they won't show the news as it is...What the hell do they think they're protecting us from??
9 posted on 09/13/2001 5:52:41 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: ken5050
Lets get the pictures from the Internet, as usual. We cannot trust the media to tell a true story, EVER.
10 posted on 09/13/2001 5:53:16 AM PDT by Lazamataz
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To: ken5050
I agree 100%. They show me live births and heart surgery, but they wont show me America at War.

Our press is pathetic.

11 posted on 09/13/2001 5:55:32 AM PDT by TheOtherOne
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To: ken5050
Pardon my crudenes but parts is parts. Everyone knows that there are dismembered body parts and dead bodies everywhere.To broadcast it as propaganda as radical nations do would be both assinine and disrespectful to the families of the deceased.

America does not need to sink to that level to rally the patriotism of it's citizens.

12 posted on 09/13/2001 5:55:48 AM PDT by mdittmar
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To: ken5050
Everything needs to be shown, and burned into the minds of everyone. Only then do I believe that the outrage will be of the magnitude needed to wipe out our enemies. Let us not forget that we are not a country who wants to fight a war if American casualties are involved, so it might take horrific pictures to help move us in the right direction.
13 posted on 09/13/2001 5:57:48 AM PDT by ForbesFan
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To: ken5050
we need to see up close the horror of the attack, to make sure that it never, ever happens again Your thoughts???

Once the enemy has been identified those pictures can be used at a later date to justify our violent reaction. - Tom

15 posted on 09/13/2001 5:58:40 AM PDT by Capt. Tom
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To: mdittmar
I think the U.S. media should show the us what really happened. Look, when we retaliate, there WILL be civilian casualties. As gruesome as it sounds now, the terrorists and their sponsors will have no problem circulating pictures of their dead and wounded to bolster anti-U.S. sentiment.

War is awful. Censoring the images may seem like it's in our best interest now, but remember how quick the media was to believe Saddam's pathetic "Baby milk factory" pictures during/after the Gulf War.

16 posted on 09/13/2001 6:02:08 AM PDT by Carlucci
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To: ken5050
All I can say is I wouldn't want my wife's or my child's severed head on national TV for all to see and then repeated over and over for days. It would kill me, literally.
17 posted on 09/13/2001 6:02:45 AM PDT by DB
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To: mdittmar
So the truth is propaganda? I don't want to see it either, but I want to make that decision for myself, not have it made for me by news outlets I don't necessarily trust in the first place. That's why televison remotes have an "off" button.
18 posted on 09/13/2001 6:03:00 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: ken5050
Well, it does bother me greatly that the media is willing to show us graphic photos of foreign victims. Think of the Pulitzer Prize-winning photos from the Vietnam war, and they are of Vietnamese that we are obviously "oppressing."

But we have apparently become squeamish in this country. We used to have public exections. They still do in many parts of the world. We have sanitized ours.

I don't know, though, that we need photos of dismembered and crushed bodies from Tuesday's attacks. We know they exist and we know the terror that the victims experienced, because we all witnessed it in real time.

19 posted on 09/13/2001 6:03:11 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: ForbesFan
the enemy
20 posted on 09/13/2001 6:05:01 AM PDT by Rustynailww
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If any of you have access to one of the many Spanish language TV channels, start watching them. You will see a lot more on those channels than you do on any of our English stations. (Even if you do not speak Spanish, you can still understand most of it.)

God Bless American and it's people!

PRAY!
21 posted on 09/13/2001 6:06:11 AM PDT by I_Publius
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To: ken5050
The victims and their families deserve dignity. It does not take an exposition on Gray's Anatomy to know of the shredding and burning those poor souls endured when the planes impacted, and later, when plummeting to the ground and being mercilessly ground up by falling debris.

I agree with another poster... the heartbreaking stories of loss are enough to stir us, and are only offset by the incredible acts of heroism and bravery.

As sick as it may sound, I believe God allows these things to happen so as to remind us that we can be more. That we are capable of great things. And as a people, I see individuals rising to the call, and I believe we are passing whatever test God is allowing for our nation.

22 posted on 09/13/2001 6:07:51 AM PDT by Wm Bach
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To: mewzilla
Respect for those surviving family members is also a major consideration. They don't need to see pieces of their loved ones on TV over and over. These people don't have to see it to know the terror and loss of it. Neither do you.
23 posted on 09/13/2001 6:21:05 AM PDT by DB
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To: Wm Bach
God won't give us more than we can handle.
24 posted on 09/13/2001 6:21:09 AM PDT by Rustynailww
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To: Wm Bach
While gruesome pictures are not called for, some shots of body bags lined up, truckloads of covered bodies being hauled away, or other similar pictures to help give people a grasp of the amount of carnage would be appropriate and to a certain extent necessary.
25 posted on 09/13/2001 6:26:44 AM PDT by Crusher138
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To: ken5050
The Tuesday morning edition of New York Daily News had a full-page picture of a body falling from a tower. A hysterical person called into one of the major morning news shows and complained in a very New York way about the lack of discretion on part of the newspaper. I have to agree with that caller - and it is true that the Spanish-language TV stations will show you all the unimaginable horror that you might want to see. Personally, it's too close to home for me.
26 posted on 09/13/2001 6:28:06 AM PDT by LurkedLongEnough
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To: ken5050
I believe they need to show the results of war in all its horror. A couple of my 12 year old son's teachers would not turn on the TV (several did though) because they thought it would be too intense for 12 year olds. I disagree. Kids need to see war in all its ugliness so they will never forget what it means. So they will know why we have have to protect our brothers, sisters and American way of life. In this day and age there is a lot of misinformation and re-writing of history but no one can re-write the awful images seared into ones memory when they have seen with thier own eyes the ugly results of war.
27 posted on 09/13/2001 6:36:23 AM PDT by joebuck
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To: ken5050, stainlessbanner, Lazamataz
My 2 cents:

Laz you are right; the internet is the
only truthful news source available.

Let's hope that it is still

here after this possible Reichstag Fire.

Stainlessbanner (gotta love that name; I also like "The Stonewall Flag"):

The Spanish cable TV stations show more graphic scenes generally. They repeatedly showed the "plunges" and that was the only place I saw 'em.

As to the "up close and personal" stuff; I think it is best kept to a minimum on TV because there are a lot of young eyes out there and also out of respect for the dead.

HOWEVER:

I believe that graphic and complete media archives should be produced and posted on the web for those who would like to see and tell this story in all its utter horror.

(But I don't think our handlers necessarily want that.)

28 posted on 09/13/2001 6:44:05 AM PDT by LadyJD
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To: ken5050
Covering the results in graphic detail for propaganda value is a ploy of our enemies. We do not need it here. Yes, our culture is filled with Hollywood violence—but—to treat real tragedy is simply callous disrespect. Can you imagine being a child of one of those flying off the building? My boys 13 and 12 saw the videos of people jumping and falling off the towers once. They were very much affected by those scenes.

Outrage is fueled, not by gross disrespect and dehumanization, but from an understanding of the human costs. Sheer numbers and viewing intimate violence do not give that return.

My wife and I were headed to a prayer meeting the night of the attacks and we were in the same frame of mind as 99.9% of the country—total shock and disbelief. But, the shock and especially the disbelief was completely gone before we got there because we connected with one of the families involved.

Deena Burnett was a best friend of our editor and she had sent in some recipes for a small magazine that my wife and I produce. We got a call from our editor and she related the story of Tom Burnett to us. We already knew they had three children and we heard they did not know about their father’s death. They were a regular family.

The feelings of disbelief were over; the comforting distance shattered; the questioning shock completely gone. Our grief now had a name and a face. Our tears were not for a body falling or trapped, they were for the life lost tragically and heroically. For the children whose father wasn’t coming home. For the widow, who was going to have to care for her children alone.

The loss of life is not just the end of a body, it is the void created in the universe that ripples down the ages:

There is a dad not coming home; a mom who is inexplicably gone. There are books that will never be written; pictures never painted. Flowers will not be planted; children will not be born. There are favorite dishes that will never be tasted; baseballs that will never be thrown.

There is business unfinished; records forever lost. There are deals that will not be made; inventions that will never be created. There are fires that will rage longer; children who will not be rescued. There are criminals who will not be caught; victims who will not be comforted. There are patients who will not be cured; children who will not get a hug.

These are our countrymen who were stolen in the prime of their lives; they are not lifeless, nameless bodies.

We grieve now, but we also feel the inexorable call of justice. She cries out in our streets and is reflected in the eyes of those who have lost their loved ones. Our enemies will come to know the depths of our love for our people through the war we will rage. We will pursue them to the ends of the earth; we will totally eradicate them; we will answer that call.

29 posted on 09/13/2001 7:43:51 AM PDT by antidisestablishment
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