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Protecting Muslims while rooting out Islamists
The Telegraph U.K. ^ | 9/14/01 | Daniel Pipes

Posted on 09/14/2001 8:00:14 AM PDT by vrwc54

THAT the assault on New York's highest buildings and the American military headquarters appears to have been organised by Osama bin Laden and carried out exclusively by Muslims has large implications for the way Muslim populations living in all Western countries will be seen in the future.

Knowing a bit of background helps to explain what brought us to this situation. Bin Laden's men are not just Muslims but also Islamists. Islam (a religion) is not the problem, but Islamism (a totalitarian ideology) is. Islamism is not so much a distortion of Islam, but a radically new interpretation. It politicises the religion, turning it into a blueprint for establishing a coerced utopia. In many ways, its programme resembles those of fascism and Marxism/Leninism.

This week's events mark not the outbreak of a new problem but the heightening of a two-decade-long pattern of Islamist violence. That violence is a truly global phenomenon, affecting such varied countries as Algeria, Pakistan, Russia, Trinidad and Tobago, and the Philippines. Islamists constitute a small but significant minority of Muslims, perhaps 10 to 15 per cent of the population. Many of them are peaceable in appearance, but they all must be considered potential killers.

Here is some guidance, starting with steps to take to protect the rights of the Muslim minority:

Maintain the utmost respect for individual Muslims, mosques and other institutions. A time of crisis does not change the assumption that each of us is innocent until proved guilty.

Do not make any prejudicial statements against Muslims, a great majority of whom are innocent of Islamism or illegal behaviour.

Provide extra protection against acts of vandalism or hooliganism against Muslim property and individuals.

The press, politicians and other opinion leaders should speak out on these points.

So much for the easy steps. The harder ones concern the investigation of past crimes and their prevention in the future. The painful fact is that Muslims alone are susceptible to the lure of Islamist extremism. While safeguarding the civil rights and religious freedoms of Muslims, then, steps must be taken to diminish their unique susceptibility to this totalitarian ideology. Here are some recommendations:

Crack down hard on the Islamic institutions that funnel Muslim youth into jihad (sacred war) activities. This is a particularly British problem. For about a decade, these youths have signed on for such acceptable foreign activities as studying at Islamic seminaries or working for Islamic charities, which have then served as recruiting devices for jihad against non-Muslims in such places as Bosnia, Chechnya and Kashmir. These men clearly serve as potential cadres for attacks within Britain, perhaps elsewhere.

Worry about Islamist "sleepers". These individuals go quietly about their business until one day they are called into action. Ali A Mohamed, a naturalised US citizen born in Egypt, reached the rank of sergeant in the US army; earlier this year, he pleaded guilty to scouting out the American embassy in Nairobi as a bombing target on behalf of bin Laden, as well as assorted other tasks.

Combat the broader climate of hatred and extremism among Muslim populations resident in the West that has repeatedly lead to terrorism. Rashid Baz, the Lebanese-born delivery driver who randomly killed a Hasidic Jewish boy on the Brooklyn Bridge in March 1994, one report found, "lived in a milieu that cultivated terrorism" and "encouraged him to perpetrate violence".

Listen to the advice of anti-Islamist Muslims, the people first threatened by Islamism, who know it from closest proximity, and who can help penetrate its clandestine hierarchies.

Close internet sites that promote violence, raise money for this purpose and recruit new members. The American government took a first step in this direction last week by closing down InfoCom, a Dallas-based host for many Islamist organisations.

Guard vigilantly against the possibility of visitors and immigrants with Islamist records entering the country. No Western government has dared do this because it smacks of bias (the British ban on Louis Farrakhan was a temporary exception). But each Islamist who enters is an enemy on the home front.

Beef up aircraft profiling - the practice of looking at passengers' ethnic and religious characteristics. This has been controversial in the US, where lobbies have impeded law enforcement officials from using their common sense to keep an especially watchful eye for Islamists because, allegedly, this "unfairly singles out" minorities. The consequences of not profiling became painfully obvious on Tuesday, when between 12 and 24 Islamists hijacked four separate flights.

Isolate noisy and prominent Islamist organisations such as the Muslim Council of Britain and the Islamic Human Rights Council. These are in fact fringe organisations and they should be avoided by politicians, the media, corporations and all the rest of mainstream society.

Reconsider past mistakes. Universities, media outlets, churches and government bureaus have some hard soul-searching to do; their experts on Islam and Muslims have an influential group of apologists (one recent example is the BBC with its week-long BBC programming on Islam). They have counselled against every one of the steps outlined here. These specialists bear some responsibility for the unpreparedness that led to this week's disaster. They and their institutions must review past mistakes and begin with a fresh, realistic approach.

The goal in formulating policy toward domestic Muslim populations must be two-fold: to combine fairness toward their moderate majority with a very tough stance toward the Islamists. This balance requires sensitivity but not political correctness - a match that can be achieved if done honestly and intelligently.

The author is director of the Philadelphia-based Middle East Forum, columnist for the Jerusalem Post and author of Conspiracy (Free Press)



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Beef up aircraft profiling - the practice of looking at passengers' ethnic and religious characteristics.

If this were done, which I fully support, I assume it wouldn't be that difficult for Middle Eastern terrorists to radically disguise their appearance.

1 posted on 09/14/2001 8:00:14 AM PDT by vrwc54
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To: vrwc54
An important post. Thanks
2 posted on 09/14/2001 8:26:26 AM PDT by rdf
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To: vrwc54
Ann Coulter was on WKQX in Chicago this morning saying that we should be profiling Arabs. Go Ann!!

I didn't have a picture to post... :(

3 posted on 09/14/2001 8:33:53 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: vrwc54
I assume it wouldn't be that difficult for Middle Eastern terrorists to radically disguise their appearance.
True. Most could very easily pass as Jewish or Hindu/Buddhist, depending on where they are from.
4 posted on 09/14/2001 8:39:35 AM PDT by jae471
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To: vrwc54
Do not make any prejudicial statements against Muslims, a great majority of whom are innocent of Islamism or illegal behaviour.

Unless you are Palestinian Muslim, then we call for your obliteration!

And please, spare me the photos of those FEW dancing in the street, they in no way represent the views of the Palestinian people as a whole.

Not to mention the fact that the pictures were of them rallying to support their Jenin brotheren, not to rejoice over our tragedy as Israel and the zionist posters on this board would want everyone to believe.

5 posted on 09/14/2001 8:46:19 AM PDT by ObjetD'art
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To: ObjetD'art , BenF
Usual mush from you, "nonObjet":

Palestinian's supported suicide attacks against USA in Nov. 2000 poll and

PA seizes tapes of demonstrators waiving photos of Bin Laden

6 posted on 09/14/2001 9:02:46 AM PDT by vrwc54
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To: jae471
True. Most could very easily pass as Jewish or Hindu/Buddhist, depending on where they are from

If you were willing to die for your cause, you would be willing to undergo plastic surgery. Add a little hair dye...

7 posted on 09/14/2001 9:05:20 AM PDT by vrwc54
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To: jauntybeesting
jauntybeesting,
Please go back to the hole you crawled out of. You know nothing of FR. Given the volume of traffic right now, I'd say that the Anti-Palistinian voice represents very few of the people here. Further, use some common sense. Just because someone says kill them all doesn't mean they're ready to follow through. Most of the people here are intelligent enough to realize there are Palistinians who were shocked and horrified by the attacks.

Why don't you practice what you preach and stop calling all one FR "swine".

9 posted on 09/14/2001 9:16:34 AM PDT by jae471
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To: vrwc54
Hey! There are a few nuts in EVERY crowd! To call for harm against these people as a whole due to the wretched actions of a few..

Not Right!

10 posted on 09/14/2001 9:18:52 AM PDT by ObjetD'art
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To: jae471
So you have a problem with Jaunty denouncing the calls here on FR to do harm to a group of people due to their ethnic or religious makeup, eh?

Why don't you take your disapproval and voice it towards those who are rabid in their calling for genocide against the Palestinian people?

11 posted on 09/14/2001 9:27:52 AM PDT by ObjetD'art
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To: ObjetD'art
Not to mention the fact that the pictures were of them rallying to support their Jenin brotheren, not to rejoice over our tragedy as Israel and the zionist posters on this board would want everyone to believe.

You may believe that, but the reality is the a great number, maybe a minority, but still great numbers danced in the streets. Since even the PA admits this, you are just a liar.

12 posted on 09/14/2001 9:33:56 AM PDT by TheOtherOne
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To: jauntybeesting
"casting pearls before swine."

You are the swine of FR, and you know it. Since you don't like it, leave.

13 posted on 09/14/2001 9:36:34 AM PDT by TheOtherOne
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To: ObjetD'art
Why don't you take your disapproval and voice it towards those who are rabid in their calling for genocide against the Palestinian people?

Whine, whine, whine...Since this article and no one on this thread is guilty of Judge Objet's reprimand, why are you spreading YOUR hatred towards FR posters on this thread?

14 posted on 09/14/2001 9:37:21 AM PDT by vrwc54
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To: ObjetD'art
Liberal BS. What is the difference between the two? Especially the way they are practiced? NONE.
15 posted on 09/14/2001 9:38:52 AM PDT by Stavka2
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To: TheOtherOne
you are just a liar.

Comming from you, I will embrace this as the compliment it is..

16 posted on 09/14/2001 9:40:55 AM PDT by ObjetD'art
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To: lent,KitJ,patent,rebdov
bttt
17 posted on 09/14/2001 9:43:58 AM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: vrwc54
Dr. Muzammil H. Siddiqi just spoke at the National Cathedral Service. Before a Rabbi spoke. Before Billy Graham spoke. What a travesty this is. Check out Siddiqi's comments about Israel and Palestine here:

http://www.pakistanlink.com/religion.html

Hope the Secret Service frisked him good.

18 posted on 09/14/2001 9:45:19 AM PDT by LarryLied
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To: jauntybeesting
And how many American blacks were in the streets celebrating the deaths of whites? Your moral equivalency borders on treasonous. You poor Palies may well have had a hand in this from the beginning, as well as the Cairo government which without the US $3 billion a year would collapse. What is trully repundent is that it took you Musli Shills only 1 day to regroup and slime your way back in. Nothing gives you shame, does it?
19 posted on 09/14/2001 9:47:11 AM PDT by Stavka2
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To: ObjetD'art
Here is a hint. Your lying propaganda is even less valuable when simultaneous facts tell the truth.

17:45) Palestinians rally for bin Laden Hundreds of Palestinian members of Hamas demonstrated today in Gaza City, in Ramallah, and the Nuseirat refugee camp in Jericho, Israel Radio reported. At the rallies in Gaza and Ramallah, demonstrators waved pictures of terrorist mastermind Osama bin Laden. Palestinian policemen seized videotapes of the event taken by cameramen working for foreign networks and ordered them not to film any further.

20 posted on 09/14/2001 9:52:35 AM PDT by Sabramerican
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To: vrwc54
Yeah, they could always get Michael Jackson's plastic surgeon. He'd create a nice friendly non-alien look.
21 posted on 09/14/2001 9:53:16 AM PDT by doug from upland
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To: ObjetD'art
And please, spare me the photos of those FEW dancing in the street, they in no way represent the views of the Palestinian people as a whole.

Because you say so? Well, that makes me feel a whole lot better.

Not to mention the fact that the pictures were of them rallying to support their Jenin brotheren, not to rejoice over our tragedy as Israel and the zionist posters on this board would want everyone to believe.

Right. And the Holocaust never happened.

22 posted on 09/14/2001 10:01:16 AM PDT by BenF
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To: jauntybeesting
It is time for the loyal moslem arab Americans to state loudly their loyalty to the USA ABOVE ALL OTHERS, and to do more, to prove it in deeds.

We are now shifting from peacetime rules to wartime rules, and the battlefield is HERE. So please spare me everyone your bleatings about the poor arab moslems' civil liberties, this is WAR.

Many of them are not even citizens, but have merely snuck into our free and open society, and bear us only hatred. The fine and loyal arab moslems Americans must now help to ROOT THEM OUT.

Am I being unfair? I don't think so: this is now WAR on "Battlefield USA". We must fight to win.

Let me point out to any who have missed these facts:

/1/ Before the first WTC bombing, mosques and "cultural centers" in NYC were used as safehouses, agent meeting places, and dead drops. This is a fact, look it up. Prior to this state of war, our FBI was hamstrung by the ACLU and CAIR etc and were unable to properly monitor these nests of vipers in NYC, and we saw the (thank God it did not fully succeed) results. Now we are moving to WARTIME rules of engagement, and mosques and "cultural centers" must not be permitted to give unquestioned sanctuary to terrorists and their support agents. Good loyal patriotic arab moslem Americans can and must root them out swiftly. If they fail to do this, their loyalties must be suspected. Too bad, it's WAR.

/2/ After the 9-11 outrage, some, not many, arab moslem ILLEGAL ALIENS have been seen celebrating, several have been arrested by the FBI. Some were across the Hudson with video cameras on tripods, ready to record the evil deeds, then cheering when the buildings were struck. There was obviously advance notice among SOME arab moslems inside of the USA, none of them with advance knowledge tipped off the attack to the authorities. Tuesday Somalis and others celebrated the attacks loudly at Seattle ethnic restourants.

It is now time for all good loyal patriotic arab moslem Americans to do their duty, and report their suspicions or knowledge to the FBI, so that they may begin investigating possible terrorists or terrorist support agents ASAP. If they fail to do this DUTY, then shame on them, and do not expect to win sympathy with crocodile tears later on.

IT'S WAR! NEW RULES! GET USED TO IT!

AND CHOOSE WHICH SIDE YOU WILL BE ON!

23 posted on 09/14/2001 10:01:41 AM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: vrwc54
Isn't it amazing the lengths the Jew-haters on these threads will go to to protect their beloved Palestinians. With G-D's help, they will all suffer the same fate.
24 posted on 09/14/2001 10:02:36 AM PDT by BenF
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To: Stavka2
Nothing gives you shame, does it?

They, the musli shills, are incapable of shame. They, like those that flew the planes into the WTC, believe that they are serving a greater truth which transcends what we call shame. They trot out the 'innocent' as a shield for the slime that hides behind them. They speak the words that those, that have never seen the face of their evil, want to believe. The word 'innocents' evokes images of puppies, kittens, and soft fuzzy things. The facade of the killers.

Listen to their words....oppression, innocents, occupiers...the words of the leftists, the sympathizers of the 'liberation movements' that act as though they have license to kill indiscriminately in the name of their cause.

They will always be a 'worthy' cause in their eyes that justifies this barbaric behavior. The word 'shame' will never be in their vocabularies.

25 posted on 09/14/2001 10:04:24 AM PDT by beowolf
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To: TheOtherOne
You may believe that, but the reality is the a great number, maybe a minority, but still great numbers danced in the streets. Since even the PA admits this, you are just a liar.

So what? A roving camera could have picked out similar scenes throughout Europe, from Russia, to China, to Yugoslavia to Iraq, to Afghanistan and every other country we've lobbed a bomb or cruise missile at.

26 posted on 09/14/2001 10:04:39 AM PDT by Mr. Vega
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To: vrwc54
This needs some major linguistic clean up. Muslim and Islam are effectively the same thing, kind of like Christianity and The Church, we shouldn't even be targeting Palestinians, that's largely a regional description like Westerners. The people that need to be rooted out are the "Jihadists", those that have been convinced that they are in a holy war against "Zionist agression" and "American imperialism".

We need to not blame the religion for the gross misinterpretations of a few evil men. As a friend of mine put it: we didn't blame the Lutherans for Hitler, we didn't blame the Buddhists for Tojo, we didn't blame the Christians for McVeigh, we shouldn't blame the Muslims for Bin Laden.

27 posted on 09/14/2001 10:04:49 AM PDT by discostu
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To: vrwc54
There has been very, very little violence directed towards the mulsim community that I have heard of so far. I think most Americans are too enlightened for that kind of thing. I am however very angry with our government for having placed us in this position. I don't know how many people have read this, but here locally, they are looking for a Syrian that might have been on one of the planes, in any case he has vanished.

This is his history, he was given immunity from procecution for his testimony against those involved in the embassy bombings, he was somehow involved in buying a personal jet for Ben Ladin, he is up to his neck in terrorism, yet they let him move right in here among us a mile from my house.

The vile corruption of both parties in their joint conspiracy to import the votes of the enemies of our nation, their total disregard and disdain for America and it's former culture, holding it's worth as nothing, is a traitorous scandal that they should not be allowed now to hide under pious phoney, pull of the shelf and dust off when needed, patriotism.

When the congress sang "God bless America" their tongues should have fallen instantly out of their mouths. We should not allow them to, in future, satisfy us with half measure immigration policies that holds our culture, sovereignty and borders in contempt. We have been brow beaten into believing that every culture, any culture, is better than ours, or on a par with ours. We have certainly seen first hand that this is not true. We should never again allow them to make patriotism a bad word and an emotion to be ashamed of.

28 posted on 09/14/2001 10:07:09 AM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: jauntybeesting
I've given up on these guys -- they're incorrigible.

I'm so glad to hear this. Maybe you will leave FR forever and we will no longer have to listen to your rabid hatred towards Jews and other supporters of the only democracy in the Middle East. But I know you haven't given up on the murderous scum-b@g Arabs you love so much. Hopefully, you will join them in getting their just rewards.

29 posted on 09/14/2001 11:31:12 AM PDT by BenF
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To: Mr. Vega
So what? A roving camera could have picked out similar scenes throughout Europe, from Russia, to China, to Yugoslavia to Iraq, to Afghanistan and every other country we've lobbed a bomb or cruise missile at.

Please tell me what other country was celebrating the attack on civilians other than the PA and Iraq?

Put up or shut up.

30 posted on 09/14/2001 11:36:33 AM PDT by TheOtherOne
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To: ObjetD'art
There are a few nuts in EVERY crowd! To call for harm against these people as a whole due to the wretched actions of a few..

You are the one generalizing about Freepers. Follow your own teachings.

31 posted on 09/14/2001 11:39:19 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: TheOtherOne
There were similar scenes in Australia and the US among Palestinians.
32 posted on 09/14/2001 11:40:48 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: vrwc54
I strongly disagree with Pipes on this. The only difference between Muslims and the "Islamists" he talks about is that Muslims are paving the way for the Islamists. Look at any country in the world with a significant population of Muslims and see how "well" they get along with members of other faiths. There is always trouble. Moreover, these so-called "peace-loving" Muslims only whine about discrimination when they realize it could be directed at them. Last year, after Arafat started the latest intifada, Jews were attacked in the streets by Muslims without a word of condemnation or disassociation from those who today claim "we're not all alike". Well, as far as I am concerned, there is little difference between those who commit violence and those who stand by and watch.

If I am wrong, then these Muslims should stand up when Jews are threatened and protest, not just when the threat is against them. As an example, the local leader of the ADL has denounced indescriminate violence against Muslims. I don't like the ADL and I'm not fond of this particular individual. Was it the "right" thing to do? Frankly, I'm not sure.

33 posted on 09/14/2001 11:42:32 AM PDT by BenF
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Egypt...receipient of $3 billion a year of US money and much more in military tech.
34 posted on 09/14/2001 12:20:30 PM PDT by Stavka2
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To: vrwc54

"Islam (a religion) is not the problem, but Islamism (a totalitarian ideology) is."

A distinction without a difference. Here's what the Koran says:

[9.29] Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day...until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.

Fight and slay the pagans [i.e. infidels] wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem of war.

—The Koran, Sura 9:5


35 posted on 09/14/2001 12:28:20 PM PDT by Stingray
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To: BenF
It all depends on Muslims' willingness to accept that their religion AND Western values can coexist. This is the key to Daniel Pipes' guidelines for differentiating mainstream Muslims in Western societies from the Islamist Nazis. The reason the West should exterminate the latter sect is that it has coopted religion as an instrument of terror, mayhem, and mass murder. And that outlook on the part of Islamist Nazis is totally predictable both because they embrace a totalitarian creed and they hold themselves to be at war with the West and its values. Thus we don't have to harm or restrict Muslims' freedom in the West since they see themselves as a faith community alongside a diverse number of different faith communities in Western societies and don't see a conflict between their own faith and that of the society they live in. As long as all this is kept in mind its possible to go aggressively after Islamist Nazis while encouraging Muslims to become a part of Western culture.
36 posted on 09/14/2001 1:01:37 PM PDT by goldstategop
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To: Travis McGee
Bump!
37 posted on 09/15/2001 7:38:55 PM PDT by Paul Ross (Strike While the Iron is HOT!)
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