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Re-enlistment information for " Prior Service "
US Air Force, Army, Navy, Marines | 14 Sep., 2001 | self

Posted on 09/14/2001 11:20:42 PM PDT by freepersup

Due to circumstances involving acts of war upon this nation, I checked with 3 out of 4 branches of the military's recruiting stations, as to the possibility of whether or not I am eligible for re-enlistment.

For the record: I am 44 years, 2 months old, effective 19 Sep., 2001.

I have 3 years Federal military service time-active duty; Regular Army, 6 years military service time-Illinois Air National Guard, and 5 months military service time-Army Reserve.

My total military service time is 9 years, 5 months.

The US Marine recruiter stated that their enlistment cut off age is 28 years, plus, all Federal military service time.

In my example, that would be my 3 years of Federal active duty military service time; Regular Army, plus, the maximum age of 28.

Using the formula, my present age could be no more than 31 ( 28 + 3 ).

The US Air Force recruiter stated that their enlistment cut off age is 28 years, plus, all Federal military service time, active duty, plus, all National Guard military service time, plus, all Federal Reserve military service time.

In my example, that would be my 3 years of Federal active duty military service time; Regular Army, plus 6 years military service time-Illinois Air National Guard, plus, 5 months military service time-Army Reserve, plus, the maximum age of 28.

Using the formula, my present age could be no more than 37 years, 5 months. ( 28 + 3 + 6 + 5 mos. )

The US Army recruiter stated that their enlistment cut off age is 35 years, plus all Federal military service time, active duty, plus, all National Guard military service time, plus, all Federal Reserve military service time.

In my example, that would be my 3 years of Federal active duty military service time; Regular Army, plus 6 years military service time-Illinois Air National Guard, plus, 5 months military service time-Army Reserve, plus, the maximum age of 35.

Using the formula, my present age could be no more than 44 years, 5 months.( 35 + 3 + 6 + 5 mos. )

I have no more than 3 months time left to process into the military, should I pass my physical, and elect to re-enlist.

I wanted all prior service, military personnel, to know their options and to understand the age and time limitations that they face, should they contemplate re-enlisting.


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1 posted on 09/14/2001 11:20:42 PM PDT by freepersup
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To: freepersup
I wanted to post this in the front page section, yet I lacked the know how. How about a tip for next time ?
2 posted on 09/14/2001 11:25:38 PM PDT by freepersup
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To: freepersup
Perhaps someone could check out the Navy's re-enlistment parameters and post them here ?
3 posted on 09/14/2001 11:32:31 PM PDT by freepersup
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To: freepersup
bump'n it up
4 posted on 09/14/2001 11:33:23 PM PDT by freepersup
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To: freepersup
I'm an old guy(not as old as you though),would you know about requirements for the reserves? Never been in the military before.
5 posted on 09/14/2001 11:33:49 PM PDT by mdittmar
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To: freepersup
I would imagine that Navy and Marines are the same, since they are in the same Dept. Not positive.
6 posted on 09/14/2001 11:37:21 PM PDT by In veno, veritas
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To: freepersup
I am 53, and a graduate of two wars...I will fight here as long as I can...I will give up none of my freedoms to do this...but, I ask you...who will defend us...from us?
7 posted on 09/14/2001 11:40:53 PM PDT by alphadog
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To: freepersup
Depending on how serious congress gets about this they may be asking for older former vets to come back in as they know the older ships, craft, ect. There is no way we can continue on our present course of military cuts and defend our nation. That after Tuesday is obvious to anyone. Time to reopen some bases and refit some ships. It doesn't have to go all the way back up to Reagans military but it does need to be at about two thirds of it for reasonable national defense.

Our reserves can not handle the demands of active duty call ups. The employers as well can't afford it. Train them yes by all means but get us back to a full active duty force that can stand on it's own.

We need more aircraft, tanks, subs, and ships. Much of this is still aviable and can be brought into service with re-tooling. That is a short term solution. Over the long term we must face facts that having a full ready standing military is a must. We lost a lot of bases, troops, and ships in the past 10 years. The cuts were too great. Having standing carriers in the Gulf and MED goes a long way in making an enemy or host nation of our enemy think twice about messing with us. It's time to restore our military to that standard.

8 posted on 09/14/2001 11:46:02 PM PDT by cva66snipe
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To: mdittmar
I am not sure about the cut off age for Reserves. Good question though.

FWIW, 35 years old, being the cut off age for active duty Army enlistment, would give the inductee 20 years to accumulate a pension in. This would take place prior to reaching the maximum age of 55 years old.

I do know that the Army Reserves has a maximum age of 64. That is what I thought the recruiter told me yesterday...

If one subtracts 20 from 64, 44 is the answer. Is 44 the maximum age that one can enter the Reserves in ? I don't know. I know that you can be 35 and still enlist, if that helps any ?

9 posted on 09/14/2001 11:50:26 PM PDT by freepersup
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To: freepersup
Im 50 and disabled. Ex Army 1969-1972..I told my youngest son and his friend that I would proudly serve again. I cant so Im miserable about it.
10 posted on 09/14/2001 11:53:58 PM PDT by Cold Heat
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To: wirestripper
I understand...I was actually surprised to find out that I wasn't too old ! I would like to see an immediate and substantial increase in the amount of young people willing to sign up for military duty.
11 posted on 09/15/2001 12:00:14 AM PDT by freepersup
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To: cva66snipe
As I post this message, news reports tell of the Commander in Chief ordering to active duty, 50,000 Reservists. That's a good start !
12 posted on 09/15/2001 12:04:18 AM PDT by freepersup
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To: freepersup
This freeper has an 0400 wake up and it is already 0200. No rest for the weary. That high powered coffee has got to go !
13 posted on 09/15/2001 12:08:04 AM PDT by freepersup
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To: wirestripper
I've been off ship 21 years now. As well I'm disabled. But if I was able to be back on the America I could still start up every air conditioning unit on the ship and line up the systems. My point is when I was getting out in 1980 the Navy was bringing some old timers back in to train others. The Navy had a respectable re-enlistment cash incentive at that time as well. We went from Carters military to Reagans standards and now the simple truth is we are once again way below the standards of even Carters time.

The reserves and NG's is great but it can not replace a full standing ready military nor can it be seriously considered part of the first wave military.

14 posted on 09/15/2001 12:09:11 AM PDT by cva66snipe
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To: freepersup
Couldn't resist one last bump to the top. Competition is heavy here.
15 posted on 09/15/2001 12:09:42 AM PDT by freepersup
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To: cva66snipe
I totally agree, The best thing any kid with half a brain can do is SERVE!!!I will never regret what I did. I learned countless things about life and people, as well as a good start on a career from the VA is the form of a college degree. Sometimes I think It might be good to bring back the draft.
16 posted on 09/15/2001 12:17:57 AM PDT by Cold Heat
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To: freepersup
As I post this message, news reports tell of the Commander in Chief ordering to active duty, 50,000 Reservists. That's a good start !

We need to get away from the idea the reserves are first line units. The simple truth is this. I am a former Army National Guard. I was assigned to a Howitzer Battery as an ammunition hauler.

I was allowed to join due to my Navy service. In my four years in the Navy I touched one .22 caliber rifle at boot camp for one hour and not another was touched. So I joined a combat unit of the National Guard and was handed an M-16. This is not a good situation. Yet these very same type units are being used for deployments overseas. These well intended warriors are at this stage not a help but someone else for the more trained combat units to have to look out after.

There should be enough trained active duty to be deployed on short notice while the reserves get some active duty workups in the states. This could take as much as 6 months. Right now we lack that luxury and have so since Reagan left office and the tearing down of the military actually started. The Gulf War showed us that much.

17 posted on 09/15/2001 12:20:32 AM PDT by cva66snipe
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To: freepersup
I am 38 almost 39, I wish I could re-enlist. I was a 91B Combat Medic and would proudly serve my country again if I could. It depresses me that I am just a wee bit too old. This sucks!!
18 posted on 09/15/2001 12:33:47 AM PDT by StayoutdaBushesWay
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To: cva66snipe
Many of these Reservists will relieve the current active duty personnel (in country) from the numerous "emergency" assignments that they are presently performing, due to Tuesday's attack. This will free them up (active duty) for overseas assignments or other more traditional active duty roles.

I understand and agree with your point wholeheartedly about the gutting of our armed forces. Many responsibilities that have traditionally rested on active duty forces's shoulders, have shifted onto the Reserve component's shoulders. It's a little bit like the way the gubmint juggles the fiscal "books". Rob Peter to pay Paul.

19 posted on 09/15/2001 12:39:25 AM PDT by freepersup
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To: StayoutdaBushesWay
I laughed in delight at your ID.

We all need to push our Senators and Representatives for answers as to why in the hell the age cut off is so low for practically every Federal job. They raised the age of retirement / the age at which one can collect social security, due to the fact that people are living longer than they used to, but they left the maximum cut off age for hiring, where it was.

20 posted on 09/15/2001 12:48:12 AM PDT by freepersup
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To: freepersup
There is another good alternative which is the state milita. Most of them take persons up to age 65 and some I think to 70. They fill in for the activated reserves.
21 posted on 09/15/2001 12:57:43 AM PDT by cva66snipe
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To: cva66snipe
Went down to see the recruiter today. The senior NCO (SFC) screwed the pooch ! After visiting the recruiter station Thursday, due to a phone call that morning, which confirmed the formula that adds my service time to my age, I now have conflicting information that reverses the formula. If I go active duty, the feds will only add my federal time (3 years) to the age cut-off of 35. Now they tell me I am too old. They won't count my guard time nor my reserve time. The guard or the reserves will count my total time in service which includes my guard and reserve time plus my 3 years active duty. Major obstacle to active duty enlistment now. I am searching for a guard unit or a reserve unit that might take me. That is all...
22 posted on 09/15/2001 9:15:05 PM PDT by freepersup
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To: freepersup
bump'n
23 posted on 09/15/2001 9:17:08 PM PDT by freepersup
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To: freepersup
super sleepy bump
24 posted on 09/15/2001 9:18:28 PM PDT by freepersup
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To: freepersup
11 Bravo bump.

5.56mm

25 posted on 09/15/2001 9:22:04 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: freepersup
As someone who has not served and is considerably older (53) is there any way? Very good health and fitness; I'd give some of the younger guys a run for their money. High level of education (PhD in physical science). Mightn't they raise the age given the new situation? Also, is there a parallel civilian corpse which performs support functions? If I couldn't kill the bastards myself, I sure would like to equip and assist those who will.
26 posted on 09/15/2001 9:26:42 PM PDT by Faraday
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To: Faraday
Oops. corpse ==> corps
27 posted on 09/15/2001 9:30:03 PM PDT by Faraday
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To: freepersup
The US Air Force recruiter stated that their enlistment cut off age is 28 years, plus, all Federal military service time, active duty, plus, all National Guard military service time, plus, all Federal Reserve military service time.

Oh, brother, does that rule me out. I had 57 months' active duty in the Air Force (1982-87) and, because of the age I was when I enlisted (I was actually 26 when I began my active duty with basic training), I was not afforded the option on reserve listing for two years to follow my hitch. By this formula, my cutoff age would be near 33. Unfortunately, I am almost 13 years past that cutoff.

And here's the odd part. I was an intelligence analyst when I was in the Air Force.
28 posted on 09/15/2001 9:47:59 PM PDT by BluesDuke
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To: wirestripper
Sometimes I think It might be good to bring back the draft.

When tens of thousands hit the recruiting stations to enlist voluntarily in the space of only three or four days in these circumstances, the proof is there that the draft (aside from having no legitimate place in a purportedly free society) is superfluous. When the cause is just, Americans step up of their own volition. Always have. Always will.
29 posted on 09/15/2001 9:52:28 PM PDT by BluesDuke
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To: freepersup
This is driving me crazy. I am going to hit 40 next week, and I had heart surgery 10 months ago. I couldn't pass a PFT if you chased me with a .45 in one hand and a bad discharge in the other.
I served in the Marine Corps during Reagan's first term, and I would go back if I could.

Any other former Marines (or others) that couldn't shake the feeling on Tuesday that you should report to your unit, but had nowhere to go?

31 posted on 09/15/2001 10:01:31 PM PDT by Riley
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To: Riley
Perhaps some sort of Volunteer Federal Auxiliary unit could be formed, of all us prior service folk who are too old to go?
32 posted on 09/15/2001 10:03:55 PM PDT by Riley
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