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Loose Lips Sinks Ships
Free Republic | 09/15/01 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 09/15/2001 6:59:48 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

Lots of grumbling lately about deleted posts. Well, my friends, the simple truth is the game has changed. We are now at war. We have been attacked by a vicious cold-blooded force of international terrorists who want to destroy our nation, our freedom and our way of life. There is no doubt about this. Knowing this, I am alarmed to read some of the stuff that has been posted to FR in the last few days. This is not the time to raise doubts about our leaders. This is not the time to raise conspiracy theories. This is not the time to second guess our intelligence agencies. This is war. This is survival of our way of life. We must unite behind our Commander-in-chief and do all we possibly can to support him and our war efforts. We do not have a choice in this matter. The terrorists who attack us do so without warning and without mercy. They do not want peace. They do not want to co-exist. They do not want appeasement or negotiation. They want to destroy us. They want to destroy our way of life. They want to destroy our freedom. They want to destroy our nation. They have no conscience, no respect for life, no compassion and will give no quarter. Death of the USA is what they seek.

Many of us on Free Republic are veterans or have family members who are veterans or who are currently serving in the military. We have each sworn a solemn oath to defend our Constitution and our nation. We will not waver in the face of adversity and we will not shirk our responsibility or fail to do our duty. Regardless of our political differences, we will join together to support our nation and to crush our common enemy.

All of us can help out. There will be opportunities coming for volunteers for all sorts of wartime activities. There will be opportunities to help our men and women in uniform, our civil defense efforts, our war production efforts, giving blood, buying war bonds, cooperating if there are shortages, supporting our leaders and generally supporting the war effort.

There will also be precautionary measures. First and foremost on this forum and elsewhere is to respect the fact that we deal in political information. Many of us may personally gain access to sensitive information that could harm our military or our war efforts if it falls into the wrong hands. If you live or work in an area where you may learn of troop movements or war plans or if you have family members or friends who may have access to this information, please do not spread it around. We will be on the lookout for any "Loose Lips" info and will delete it when spotted on this forum. Now, information that is already printed in the newspapers may or may not fall into this category. Usually, published information is fair game to post. But, please be careful in what discussions may follow.

Also, as I said above, it is essential for all of us to unite behind our President. Now is not the time to seek political advantage. Now is not the time to raise doubts about our government or our military, and now is not the time to post conspiracy theory or to engage in smear attacks. And, no, my finely feathered, tinfoil-hatted friends, we did not do this to ourselves. The U.S. government did not start this war. We were victims of an unprecedented, pre-meditated surprise attack, perpetrated by hostile, cowardly foreign parties. This attack may not have been in the military scale and scope of a Pearl Harbor, but in terms of lives lost and impact on the nation and the world it is every bit as severe.

Even so, we have confidence. We know that our nation is the strongest in the world and that our people are resolved to do whatever it takes to win. We've done it before and we will do it again. This is our heritage. Securing the blessings of liberty for ourselves and our posterity in the tradition of our forefathers is our duty and obligation. And I have faith that with God's blessings, we will rid the world of this evil threat.

God bless you all and God bless America.

Regards,

Jim Robinson


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To: Jim Robinson
Thank you. Indeed, our priorities have changed since war was declared on us. Those of us who have never before been in "wartime" have some changing to do, and for the good of our country we certainly will.
251 posted on 09/15/2001 9:50:22 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Jaxter, Ms Mellie
Are you saying that because the Brits don't care about security we shouldn't either?

Firstly, Ms Mellie, there was nothing tedious about cutting and pasting your URL. Thank you for the information.

Secondly, Jaxter, your assertion that we Brits don't care about security rings rather hollow after you let a series of nutters on to your planes. Hopefully in the future you will be more careful.
252 posted on 09/15/2001 9:50:48 PM PDT by jjbrouwer
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To: Jaxter
My point is that I thought this forum used to be a good source of links to news items. This "cloak-and-dagger" posturing by keyboard warriors just looks silly when troop movement information is in the general domain (but not here). But hey, I know it's not my forum, but I thought I was allowed to make an observation. I'm sorry if I offended you.
253 posted on 09/15/2001 9:51:09 PM PDT by Ms Mellie
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To: Jim Robinson
Thanks! Agreed. Former Infantryman. OPSEC is paramount.
254 posted on 09/15/2001 9:51:14 PM PDT by Prodigal Son
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To: Ms Mellie, Jimbo
But hey, I know it's not my forum, but I thought I was allowed to make an observation. I'm sorry if I offended you.

Ms M, why do you care if you offended this character? Judging from his posts he is an idiot.
255 posted on 09/15/2001 9:56:18 PM PDT by jjbrouwer
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To: jjbrouwer
"Secondly, Jaxter, your assertion that we Brits don't care about security rings rather hollow after you let a series of nutters on to your planes. Hopefully in the future you will be more careful."

Then I'd suggest to you Brits that until you shed blood, you ain't got nothing in this conversation but your nose. Until then, why don't you hunker down until you need our help against some real world power like the Argentines? We've already bailed your candyasses out enough.

256 posted on 09/15/2001 9:57:39 PM PDT by Jaxter
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To: All
Gee, folks, can we get Jim Robinson to run for Governor or Senator in California?

I have tremendous respect for him.

God bless you, Jim Robinson.

If you get to heaven before me, Jim Robinson, try and pull a few strings with some of your new friends up there, as I may need the help.

Chrisotpher M. Hoss

257 posted on 09/15/2001 9:57:40 PM PDT by topher
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To: summer
You bet.

Quote of the Day by Guillam

I am putting together a collection of political Editorial Cartoons since the Terrorist Attack Tuesday. I am not looking for links to them on the Web somewhere, I am looking for cartoons you have posted or intend to post. They must be posted on FR to be eligible. Five me a pong if you run across one on a thread. (My typing error made me laugh, so I left it.)};^D)

258 posted on 09/15/2001 9:59:22 PM PDT by RJayneJ
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To: Jaxter
I believe it is you who owes us. But I shall forgive your ignorance.
259 posted on 09/15/2001 10:01:58 PM PDT by jjbrouwer
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To: Jim Robinson
Thanks for you post Jim. I pray that we can sustain our resolve until the scourge of terrorism is defeated.

Many different people that live in America are from ethnic groups that have originating homelands that are either minority or majority muslim in nature, but the vast majority of these people support America. In addition to your points about pulling together and being mindful of sensitve information, I hope that Free Republic will continue to encourage posters to judge all people living in America as individuals and be very careful to monitor posts that offer blanket generalizations about Americans that may have come from a muslim nation.

260 posted on 09/15/2001 10:02:02 PM PDT by Topaz
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To: jjbrouwer
"I believe it is you who owes us. But I shall forgive your ignorance."

We don't owe you anything. If it were not for us you'd be speaking German now. Or maybe even Spanish. Why don't you go hang out on some Limey site you anti-American puke? We don't need you. We don't want you. And your beer sucks.

261 posted on 09/15/2001 10:06:52 PM PDT by Jaxter
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To: jjbrouwer
Jaxter: Just wanted to let you know how much I rely on your British newspapers for real world news. For the past few years our papers think all we need to know is the latest sex scandals. And I'm sure that since you seem to have a backbone, you will shortly be banned (and me too). So nice meeting you in cyberspace. After midnight here. Logging off.
262 posted on 09/15/2001 10:08:10 PM PDT by Ms Mellie
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To: Topaz
I hope that Free Republic will continue to encourage posters to judge all people living in America as individuals and be very careful to monitor posts that offer blanket generalizations about Americans that may have come from a muslim nation.

Topaz, nice sentiments but if the gung-ho cr*p I have been reading over the last couple of days is anything to go by you haven't got a prayer.
263 posted on 09/15/2001 10:08:18 PM PDT by jjbrouwer
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To: RJayneJ
Re your post #258 -- will do. :)
264 posted on 09/15/2001 10:09:04 PM PDT by summer
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To: jjbrouwer
Sorry, my last post was meant for jjbrouwer.
265 posted on 09/15/2001 10:10:35 PM PDT by Ms Mellie
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To: Ms Mellie, Jim Robinson
Ms Mellie, thank you for your kind words. I doubt very much either of us will be banned - just for exercising our opinions.

After all this is the land of the free.
266 posted on 09/15/2001 10:10:57 PM PDT by jjbrouwer
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To: Ms Mellie
Goodnight to you ma'am.
267 posted on 09/15/2001 10:12:10 PM PDT by Jaxter
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To: Arator
freedom is a liability and a luxury that we simply cannot afford.

Do you think your freedom to reveal troop movements overrides the freedom of a soldier to expect the people he is fighting for to help protect him as he goes to battle?

Apparently a lot of FR people need a course in how to act during wartime. It all comes down to respect, duty and sacrifice. We respect the people who go to fight for us, they have their duty and we have a duty to help them from the homefront. They sacrifice and risk their lives for us, we can sacrifice our need to talk about where they are fighting to protect their safety.

If people are not willing to do that little for our soldiers and our country, they don't deserve having people do battle for them. I suggest they sign up immediately and play their wargames in the real war.

268 posted on 09/15/2001 10:12:13 PM PDT by ClancyJ
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To: jjbrouwer
I wouldn't be placing any bets.
269 posted on 09/15/2001 10:14:02 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: jjbrouwer
Topaz, nice sentiments but if the gung-ho cr*p I have been reading over the last couple of days is anything to go by you haven't got a prayer.

Usually Free Republic's posters are a very logical bunch and there is very little racism and generalizing, but it has been a very stressful and emotional week. I have seen it in your posts as well.

In a few days people will think more clearly and the stepping over the line will end.

95% good people / 5% bad

270 posted on 09/15/2001 10:16:00 PM PDT by Topaz
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To: Jaxter
We don't owe you anything. If it were not for us you'd be speaking German now. Or maybe even Spanish. Why don't you go hang out on some Limey site you anti-American puke? We don't need you. We don't want you. And your beer sucks.

Having tasted American beer more times than I care to remember this is rather amusing!

And I am in no way anti-American, just because I don't suck up to the boss in the sycophantic way you seem to think appropriate. Creep.
271 posted on 09/15/2001 10:17:04 PM PDT by jjbrouwer
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To: jjbrouwer
"After all this is the land of the free."

No thanks to you. When did you ever actually help us out in a war? I don't recall seeing you in Vietnam, though I do remember seeing a few Aussies and Koreans. And we're supposed to count on you in a war?

272 posted on 09/15/2001 10:17:45 PM PDT by Jaxter
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To: Jim Robinson
I'm a betting man. The Brits are on your side anyway.
273 posted on 09/15/2001 10:19:22 PM PDT by jjbrouwer
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To: JA
Sorry, Jim, but its not time to roll over and be a gov't lackey yet.

Not very bright, are you?

This isn't about being a "government lackey".

It's about doing the responsible thing.

Clearly, you're not yet mature enough to understand what "acting responsibly" means.

274 posted on 09/15/2001 10:21:38 PM PDT by Dan Day
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To: Jaxter
I don't recall seeing you in Vietnam...

What did that 'war' have to do with Britain. Judging by the pig's ear you made of that campaign you would be well advised to follow our lead.
275 posted on 09/15/2001 10:21:46 PM PDT by jjbrouwer
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To: Jim Robinson
We were victims of an unprecedented, pre-meditated surprise attack, perpetrated by hostile, cowardly foreign parties. This attack may not have been in the military scale and scope of a Pearl Harbor, but in terms of lives lost and impact on the nation and the world it is every bit as severe.

Thank you for posting this, Jim. I am of the opinion that this attack was ten times worse than Pearl Harbor.

Things are very bad; but good will prevail.

276 posted on 09/15/2001 10:25:51 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: jjbrouwer
"And I am in no way anti-American, just because I don't suck up to the boss in the sycophantic way you seem to think appropriate. Creep."

You are indeed anti-American. I'm sure most Brits are fine people and I've always thought they were reliable allies. But if you're any indication of the caliber of the current British citizen, excuse me, subject (you're not allowed to own firearms, right?) then I believe I wouldn't want to share a foxhole with you.

277 posted on 09/15/2001 10:26:53 PM PDT by Jaxter
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To: Jaxter
For your information I spent two years in New York. I probably know more about the place than you do.
278 posted on 09/15/2001 10:31:24 PM PDT by jjbrouwer
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To: Topaz
How about 'scrambled brains and loose fingers sink ships'? Think about the info you may be giving to our enemy.
Bump and God Bless America. Pray for our country and our citizens.
279 posted on 09/15/2001 10:31:50 PM PDT by JustAmy
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To: jjbrouwer
There are probably some books that should be burned. ie "Heather has two mommies" it was just one book that ushered in political correctness. The beginning of the new Dictionary of the Clinton era.
280 posted on 09/15/2001 10:31:59 PM PDT by swheats
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To: jkphoto Jim Robinson
Thanks Jim, well said.

jkphoto, here's the flag you asked for. :-)

281 posted on 09/15/2001 10:35:00 PM PDT by Mama_Bear
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To: swheats
That book must not be burned. After all, how else will Rosie O'Donnell and Ellen Degenerate be able to bring up children???
282 posted on 09/15/2001 10:35:42 PM PDT by jjbrouwer
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To: jjbrouwer
"What did that 'war' have to do with Britain. Judging by the pig's ear you made of that campaign you would be well advised to follow our lead."

What did WWII have to do with us? If it hadn't have been for lend lease you guys would have been gone long before Pearl Harbor. And, in spite of the propaganda that liberals like you put out, we didn't lose the war in Vietnam. We signed a peace treaty in January 1973, pulled out all of our troops and your buddies in North Vietnam ignored the treaty and with the help of China, Russia, etc. took the south in 1975. Ask yourself: How many wars in the last 100 years did England have that the US didn't help them out of?

283 posted on 09/15/2001 10:37:45 PM PDT by Jaxter
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To: jjbrouwer
"For your information I spent two years in New York. I probably know more about the place than you do."

Yes, and Yammamoto lived in D.C. longer than I did too. What's your point?

284 posted on 09/15/2001 10:40:04 PM PDT by Jaxter
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To: Jim Robinson, John Robinson
This statement is perfect. I agree completly. May I suggest that the default page saying "This Document does not exist" be modified to one with a copy of the above article text? It would then be a constant reminder to all.

FRegards.

285 posted on 09/15/2001 10:40:34 PM PDT by Mr_Magoo
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To: Jim Robinson
I have to keep telling you that you are awesome! Thank you. And many thanks to your brother.
286 posted on 09/15/2001 10:44:24 PM PDT by Bella_Bru
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To: Jaxter
And, in spite of the propaganda that liberals like you put out, we didn't lose the war in Vietnam.

I am no Liberal. I never said you lost the war.

You have issues, Jaxter. I hope they can be resolved.
287 posted on 09/15/2001 10:45:04 PM PDT by jjbrouwer
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To: jjbrouwer
"I am no Liberal. I never said you lost the war."

You said: "Judging by the pig's ear you made of that campaign you would be well advised to follow our lead."

What exactly did you mean?

288 posted on 09/15/2001 10:49:57 PM PDT by Jaxter
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To: PhiKapMom
That must have been a great thrill. I will add your daughter to my prayer list, if you don't mind.
289 posted on 09/15/2001 10:50:27 PM PDT by whoever
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To: Jim Robinson
The question is, WHO are THEY?

Sure, the USA needs to kick some middle eastern butt to address the TOP LAYER of THEY. But there is MUCH more to this, and unfortunately the REAL they who ALSO deserves the hangman's noose should be taken down as well.

But I am OK with post deletions. It is your site. No problem on my end. There is always somewhere else to post.

Thanks for the great site. God Bless/

Spoosman

290 posted on 09/15/2001 10:56:00 PM PDT by spoosman
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To: jjbrouwer
Just saw on Drudge's site that 70% of the Brits are willing to fight along side the US. I'm glad that you are in the minority in your country. I'm glad they're all not like you.
291 posted on 09/15/2001 10:57:32 PM PDT by Jaxter
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To: JustAmy

God Bless America!
V is for VICTORY!
292 posted on 09/15/2001 11:00:31 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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To: Jim Robinson justa bump
Bttt.

5.56mm

293 posted on 09/15/2001 11:02:42 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: Jaxter
Jaxter, firstly Drudge's website is merely a cumbersome list of links.

Secondly, I have always been on the side of the Americans. I merely get irritated when people like you hark back to wars that are best forgotten.
294 posted on 09/15/2001 11:03:56 PM PDT by jjbrouwer
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To: Jaxter
Jaxter, I'm off to bed for a few hours. I trust you will have sobered up when we next cross swords...Comrade.
295 posted on 09/15/2001 11:16:01 PM PDT by jjbrouwer
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To: Jim Robinson
THANK YOU JIM!
296 posted on 09/15/2001 11:16:32 PM PDT by StoneColdGOP
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To: jjbrouwer
"Secondly, I have always been on the side of the Americans. I merely get irritated when people like you hark back to wars that are best forgotten.

I don't want to forget any wars. And who the hell do you think you are to tell me what wars I can "hark" back too? And where the hell are you any way? If you were in Britain it would be about 7:15 AM now. If you're in the US, I'd just as soon you'd go home. We don't need you. We'd rather have the Brits that we can count on.

297 posted on 09/15/2001 11:17:08 PM PDT by Jaxter
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To: Jim Robinson
"Loose Lips Sink Ships"
Millions volunteered or were drafted for military duty during World War II.
The majority of these citizen-soldiers had no idea how to conduct themselves
to prevent inadvertent disclosure of important information to the enemy.
To remedy this, the government established rules of conduct.
The following is excerpted from a document given to each soldier as he entered the battle area.

299 posted on 09/15/2001 11:23:29 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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To: Carol-HuTex
"What American would want to aide the murderous enemy? "

Good point. But jjbrouwer is NOT an American. And as I said before, he doesn't have anything in this but his nose.

300 posted on 09/15/2001 11:25:50 PM PDT by Jaxter
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