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Posted on 09/15/2001 6:59:48 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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I've known JJ for 18 months. He's a good guy. He only gets riled when someone makes a false statement about the UK.
I am thankful for this site and I would hate to see it used to hinder any and all advantages we have gained in the days to come.
At the risk of getting this post pulled, my concerns on whether a post got pulled or not is not my focus any longer. We need to stay focused on what's really important. We really don't know how much has been done to this point by those who have been patient and plotting on how to destroy America. We, as citizens need to be ever vigilent and watchful-my biggest concern til now is that if these were "sleepers" that caused this destruction that lived, trained and worked among us for so long, were they content in just causing destruction on 9/11? or are we at risk even now while we go off to fight a war on foriegn soil to have mayhem still at home?
Now that I'm grown and have the responsibility for others it's a whole new world in discerning what the next move should be. Maybe I've allowed myself to be another casualty by imagining the worst. Does this cause me to stop living and doing those things that I need to do-no, but it should cause me to be aware of my surroundings a little more and the things I thought important have to be reprioritized.
For though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death I will fear no evil for Thou art with me.
And us Yanks tend to get riled when 5000+ of our innocent citizens get murdered and foreigners complain that we should make public knowledge our war plans.
Luke 22:36 (KJV) --Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.
Got sword? (M1 Garand ==>CMP)
No mercy, no quarter!
May the jihadists burn in hell for eternity!
Help speed them on their way!
Something changed Tuesday. Somebody came into my country, our country, and launched a diabolically bold and brutal attack on it. And you know what? I can pretty much assure you they didn't ask what political party, or political school of thought the crew or passengers on those planes belonged to. Nor would they have asked the people in the WTC towers or the Pentagon if they could. They didn't care. The people on the planes...the people in the buildings...the people who came to help after the attacks? The enemy. The Great Satan, if you will. All of them. And all of us. Bushie, Buchananite, Keyester, McCainiac, paleocon, neocon, just plain con, globalist, isolationist, Constitutionalist, libertarian, or for that matter, New Dem, Old Dem or leftist...we're all just meat to those guys. Pigmeat, if the bad guys are who we suspect. Something to think about. I know it's on my mind.
So if you have a beef with how Bush or the government does its job, fair enough. If you have a disagreement with some of the others here, have at it. But think of what I said and try to be kind. Try not to say anything you might regret if something happened to the official you're talking about, or the other poster. Because the sad truth you have to keep in mind after last Tuesday is that something could.
Doesn't it seem sometimes that NO good deeds go unpunished?
This is not a Gulag. Cry me some tears pal.
I really hope everyone will blast any news organization that releases info or guesses about actions of the military that we think should not be told worldwide. I know several people on Fox News have given news and then said they were authorized by the administration or law enforcement to release it and they would not give out information that might be harmful to law enforcement in their investigations. I believe they will be careful, but some of the others scare me as I remember some of the news reported during the Gulf war.
Won't voice my concerns with the subject of this thread just yet. GWB and the USA have my full support, sacrificing my civil liberties does not. "Sacrificing some freedoms for more security," as I've heard many on TV mention, dishonors the casualties of the 11th and gives a win to the terrorists.
Undeniable truth of life #1: Humanity has been in a perpetual state of war since the first man tried to do it with another man's woman, sometime back when making fire was considered the peak of technology. War is not a product of any one ideology, nor has there ever been a time of peace since the very first threat any man made against another.
And you would be standing in line. You are not alone in your sentiments.
As I said during impeachment, as goes the FR, so goes the US.
We will prevail
So, you're saying that the US is as bad as the terrorists? Because if you are you should pack up and move out ASAP. I'd recommend Canada. It would be a nice safe place to read your pacifist books and they have a history of harboring those that don't have the intestinal fortitude to fight for their country.I hate nazis and bolsheviks and believe that we should have listened to Patton.
Then what is your point? You've done nothing on this thread but insult Americans in general, and several, including myself and Jim Robinson, in particular. You've lost 500? Well, we'll root out and kill the perps for you. I doubt Tony Blair has the steel that Maggie Thatcher did, so we'll probably not get much help from the likes of you. So you'll just have to excuse Jim Robinson when he pulls threads that he feels might hurt our (not your) national security. It's his website and if it had been me, I'd have pulled your ticket 2 seconds after you called him a "book burner".
Thank you, Jim. You and your staff have more wisdom and courage than a lot of folks; hopefully you are blessed with serenity. Thomas Jefferson had this to say about his media -- it hasn't changed in almost 200 years:
"Nothing can now be believed which is seen in a newspaper. Truth itself becomes suspicious by being put into that polluted vehicle."
-- Thomas Jefferson to John Norvell, June 11, 1807
Total killed at Pearl Harbor were 2,330.
Total killed or missing in the World Trade Center are 4,763. Total killed or missing at the Pentagon are 190. Total killed on board the four aircraft are 266. Grand total 5,219.
In terms of property damage in constant dollars (that are adjusted for inflation), try to correlate the following losses. At Pearl Harbor, we lost two battleships, one very old battleship that had been converted into a target ship, one oiler and one repair ship. Three more battleships, a cruiser and two destroyers were damaged, but repaired and returned to action. We also lost over 100 aircraft, nearly all of them single-engined.
On Tuesday we lost the World Trade Center's twin towers and six other buildings in lower Manhattan. The Pentagon and several other New York buildings have been damaged but are returning to full operational capacity -- in the case of the Pentagon, they were up and running very quickly but it may take a few months to repair the damage. We also lost four large-capacity intercontinental airliners.
I strongly urge all freepers, and all media reporters lurking on these threads, to KEEP YOUR MOUTHS SHUT about any military or intelligence related activity by America and her allies. Don't assume that the information will never get back to the terrorists. Their sympathizers from around the world are definitely swarming all over this site and many other discussion sites.
Right now, we want to hear about it after the fact ... after they have delivered their ordnance payloads to their targets.
Who me? I love Brits. At least the Brits that support us. That group doesn't include you however. And hey, I can keep this up all day. My computer is located in the same room that I keep my guns and I'm cleaning them today. You know what a gun is don't you? Those are those things that your government took away from you. Well, probably not you, because you strike me as an anti-gun type. It's kind of ironic don't you think? I'm sitting here cleaning a No.5, Mk-1 .303 British Jungle carbine, and you, a Brit is not even allowed to own one. I mean, we have more freedom, wouldn't you agree? Man, this is a great country. God bless America, and what the heck, God save the Queen.
I've suddenly decided we should stop this foolish war against bin Laden and attack the Sun. That's right, we should attack bin Sol.
For billions of years, bin Sol has been infecting this innocent planet with solar radiation, twisting and killing things without mercy. We need to attack Sol immediately.
But *don't criticize* our leaders if we attampt such an attack. We must follow them blindly into the Sun. That have told us Sol is our enemy, and so proof is not necessary -- they have said it. Millions of people every year suffer sun burns and skin cancer from his neferous effects. This must not be allowed to stand and we must not stop our efforts until only a Black Hole is left were Sol used to be.
Honestly, I find it terribly sad that a forum that was intensely vigilant as to the doings of our government has now changed to an unquestioning supporter of the same. Don't get me wrong: I fully support not giving troop information or other technical information (which I, in fact, possess a small amount of) -- that would be clearly wrong.
It is also wrong, IMO, not to scrutinize what our government is doing and to point it out if something wrong or anti-American comes to fore. The government of today and the one before September eleventh is the *same one*, still full of many Clinton appointees and those who would take away our freedoms. As horrific as the events of that fateful day are, our government is still staffed by the same people.
I respect Jim Rob's right to determine what is posted here. I've been coming here for a long time, and what Jim Robinson has created has done a great service for this country, IMO. All I can say to the forum and to him is this: the law of unintended (or intended) consequences remains in wartime as much as in peacetime. If we blindly follow our leaders simply because we are at war, then it may well be that this war will never end, and our freedoms will be forever extinguished not by foreign attack, but by our own fears and the power-hungry in our own government. To me, this is a real possibility.
But if I am not to be allowed to question and must instead watch unfold things I cannot support as a Christian and American without comment on this forum, then I suppose I should go rather than violate JimRob's policies, which I respect. I don't want to do that, but I respect his wishes.
For now, I'll wait and see how things play out here, just as I am waiting to see how things play out on the American Stage.