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Posted on 09/15/2001 7:18:41 PM PDT by t-shirt
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Probably because the FBI thought the greatest threat to the U.S. was "right-wing extremists and militia groups." That's what a top FBI official said a few years ago in a TV interview. I was stunned when I heard it. It is sickening now to think how their resources have been misdirected over the years.
19 Posted on 09/15/2001 19:56:38 PDT by BigBobber
Correct BigBooper, you and me are the dangerous enemy of Big repressive government, and the real terrorists are the friends of government because they help it become more powerful, more repressive and bigger, more totalitarian government. And the terrorist help pursuade the people to give up their freedoms and rights for (False) security.
It is probably more than that. Four of the five hi-jackers on AA #11 were identified as pilots, leaving only a single pilot for each of the other three planes.
I remember that interview and had the same reaction as you.
How does discovering the truth and exposing it to others offend you?
If what happened here is not exposed to as many people as possible and action is not taken to prevent it in the future, many more terror attacks will occur.
Are you willing to put your country ahead of your party or whatever you are concerned about?
---No one here--especially me-- is giving out military secrets if that is what you are infering.
Numerous other men on each plane would explain why they able to complete their missions without having guns.
It still wouldn't explain why the fighter jets were not able to catch up to them and shoot them down.
The fighters must not have been sent until it was too late.
Are you offended that I am posting so many stories that clearly suggest/show prior knowledge of the serious threat of these attacks to occur and lack of action by the FBI, CIA and US government to stop them from happening.
On those threads I have posted probably over 75 news stories.
In the interest of helping protect our nation's national security and preserving our freedoms and rights these stories must be exposed and discussed, so that action can be taken to stop these terrorist acts from being allowed to re-occur.
Don't keep telling me to read something to taunt me.
Did you want Arator banned?
Are you satisfied that he is? Rejoicing?
Do you want me banned?
Will it make you happy?
I have never been a coward or one to be easily intimidated into keeping quiet about corruption. I'm not about to start now--I love America, it's form of government, and all the freedoms and rights that God has given us here way too much to much for that.
Sunday, September 16, 2001
Remarks by President Bush, Secretary of State Colin Powell and Attorney General John Ashcroft at Camp David on Saturday, as transcribed by the White House. The president also answered questions from the press.
Bush: I've asked the highest levels of our government to come to discuss the current tragedy that has so deeply affected our nation. Our country mourns for the loss of life and for those whose lives have been so deeply affected by this despicable act of terror.
I am going to describe to our leadership what I saw: the wreckage of New York City, the signs of the first battle of war.
We're going to meet and deliberate and discuss - but there's no question about it, this act will not stand; we will find those who did it; we will smoke them out of their holes; we will get them running and we'll bring them to justice. We will not only deal with those who dare attack America, we will deal with those who harbor them and feed them and house them.
Make no mistake about it: underneath our tears is the strong determination of America to win this war. And we will win it.
I'm going to ask the Secretary of State to say a few things, and then the Attorney General.
Powell: Thank you, Mr. President. I might just say that I'm very pleased with the response we've been getting from the international community. I think every civilized nation in the world recognizes that this was an assault not just against the United States, but against civilization.
We should also take note, it's not just Americans who lost lives in the World Trade Center - dozens of countries lost lives and they realize that this was an attack against them, as well.
We are receiving expressions of support from around the world - and not just rhetorical support, but real support for whatever may lay ahead in this campaign that is ahead of us to win the war that the President has spoken of.
I might especially want to thank the President and the people of Pakistan for the support that they have offered and their willingness to assist us in whatever might be required in that part of the world as we determine who those perpetrators are. It's a coalition that will stay intact, that will be built upon over time. And what we have to do is not just go after these perpetrators, and those who gave them haven, but the whole curse of terrorism that is upon the face of the earth. And this is a campaign that we have begun this week and we will stick with it until we are successful.
Bush: Attorney General.
Ashcroft: Four days ago we began an investigative effort to understand not only those who perpetrate this heinous assault against America and free people everywhere, but to develop an understanding of those who are associated with it and how it was conducted.
The FBI, together with very cooperative local and state officials and law enforcement agencies has processed thousands of leads. We are making the kinds of contacts and developing the information that allow us to describe this as proceeding with reasonable success. We believe that the picture is developing a kind of clarity that's appropriate. We have named 19 individuals that we have high levels of confidence were the hijackers. And we are further refining our understanding of the ways in which this terrible crime was developed.
I might add that we have put in place very serious measures that we believe will provide greater security and provide a basis for our country returning to the kind of freedom and business and conduct that is characteristic of this great nation.
Question: Sir, what do you say to Americans who are worried that the longer it takes to retaliate, the more chance the perpetrators have to escape and hide and just escape justice?
Bush: They will try to hide, they will try to avoid the United States and our allies - but we're not going to let them. They run to the hills; they find holes to get in. And we will do whatever it takes to smoke them out and get them running, and we'll get them.
Listen, this is a great nation; we're a kind people. None of us could have envisioned the barbaric acts of these terrorists. But they have stirred up the might of the American people, and we're going to get them, no matter what it takes.
In my radio address today I explained to the American people that this effort may require patience. But we're going to -
Question: How long -
Bush: As long as it takes. And it's not just one person. We're talking about those who fed them, those who house them, those who harbor terrorists will be held accountable for this action.
Question: Sir, are you satisfied that Osama bin Laden is at least a kingpin of this operation?
Bush: There is no question he is what we would call a prime suspect. And if he thinks he can hide and run from the United States and our allies, he will be sorely mistaken.
Question: Mr. President, do you have a message for the reservists that you called up yesterday? Can you tell us whether you think more may have to be called up?
Bush: The message is for everybody who wears the uniform: get ready. The United States will do what it takes to win this war. And I ask patience of the American people. There is no question in my mind we'll have the resolve - I witnessed it yesterday on the construction site. Behind the sadness and the exhaustion, there is a desire by the American people to not seek only revenge, but to win a war against barbaric behavior, people that hate freedom and hate what we stand for.
And this is an administration that is going to dedicate ourselves to winning that war.
Question: What did Pakistan say it would do to help the United States?
Powell: We put before the Pakistani government a specific list of things that we would like cooperation on, and they've agreed to all those items. I'm not prepared to announce today what those specific items are. But the Pakistani government was very forthcoming and we're appreciative.
Question: Mr. President, what kind of military options are you considering, if you could talk broadly?
Bush: This is an administration that will not talk about how we gather intelligence, how we know what we're going to do, nor what our plans are. When we move, we will communicate with you in an appropriate manner.
We're at war. There has been an act of war declared upon America by terrorists, and we will respond accordingly. And I appreciate very much the American people understanding that. As we plan, as we put our strategy into action, we will let you know when we think it's appropriate - not only to protect the lives of our servicemen and women, but to make sure our coalition has had proper time to be noticed, as well. But we're going to act.
Question: What is the risk of additional attacks on us at this point?
Bush: I would think the American people need to be - go about their business on Monday, but with a heightened sense of awareness that a group of barbarians have declared war on the American people.
Question: Sir, how much of a sacrifice are ordinary Americans going to have to be expected to make in their daily lives, in their daily routines?
Bush: Our hope, of course, is that they make no sacrifice whatsoever. We would like to see life return to normal in America. But these people have declared war on us and we will do whatever it takes to make sure that we're safe internally. So, therefore, people may not be able to board flights as quickly. Our borders are tighter than they've ever been before. We're taken a variety of measures to make sure that the American people are safe, just as the Attorney General spoke about.
But we hope, obviously, that the measures we take will allow the American economy to continue on. I urge people to go to their businesses on Monday. I understand major league baseball is going to start playing again. It is important for America to get on about its life. But our government will be on full alert and we'll be tracing every lead, every potential to make sure that the American people are safe.
Question: How long do you envision -
Bush: The definition is whatever it takes.
Posted: September 15, 2001 05:24 PM
MIAMI (AP) -- Boeing 757 manuals, three illustrated martial arts books and an 8-inch stack of East Coast flight maps were found by a motel owner cleaning out the room vacated by a hijacker two days before he flew into the World Trade Center.
Marwan Al-Shehhi and another Arab man spent a week at the Panther Motel in Deerfield Beach, and they had a constant visitor. But owner Richard Surma said Saturday he didn't recognize the other two from four photographs offered by the FBI.
Of the 19 hijackers, at least 15 have Florida ties, and seven of them were believed to be pilots. Al-Shehhi, who trained at two Florida flight schools, was aboard the United Boeing 767 that crashed into the south tower Tuesday.
Surma kept many of the items from Al-Shehhi's room and called over a sheriff's deputy Wednesday when officers began scouring the oceanfront strip of small motels 12 miles north of Fort Lauderdale. The FBI quickly followed and spent day and night interviewing guests and lifting fingerprints from Al-Shehhi's room through Friday.
Black fingerprint dust covers virtually every surface, making it look as "if you had a fire inside and a lot of soot everywhere," Surma said. He planned to clean it until a network TV crew rented the room as is.
Al-Shehhi checked out last Sunday without taking a three-ring binder full of handwritten notes, an English-German dictionary, an airplane fuel tester, a protractor, tote bag, aircraft manuals, maps and books, Surma said.
"Nice maps, but they were too complicated for me," he said. "They were aeronautical maps. I'm sure it was almost half of the eastern United States."
"I wanted to keep them all but my wife didn't want me to," Surma said. He put some of the material in the garbage, which was collected before investigators arrived. The FBI took everything that Surma kept from the hijacker's room.
Fingerprint technicians paid special attention to the frames on tropical-themed velvet paintings of dancing women. Surma found the pictures face down on the floor.
"Such puny guys, but they were pretty smart I guess that they could do so much damage," he said.
Hundreds of FBI agents are rebuilding the history of the hijackers from a paper trail of flight school records; house, apartment and hotel rental records; credit card receipts and interviews with pilots, landlords, neighbors and bartenders.
Investigators were pursuing about 1,000 leads in Florida, said FBI spokeswoman Judy Orihuela in Miami.
Seven men, including three on the United jet that crashed in Pennsylvania, used addresses in Delray Beach, about 20 miles south of West Palm Beach. The fourth hijacker killed in Pennsylvania stayed at a motel in Lauderdale By The Sea.
Four of the American Airlines Flight 11 hijackers stayed in the South Florida community of Hollywood, and the fifth listed a Boynton Beach hotel on his driver's license.
The FBI had searched the Vero Beach rental homes of two Saudi Arabian Airlines pilots who recently moved out: Abdul Rahman al-Omari, whose name is similar to one of the hijacker's, and Amer Khanfar. The FBI had issued a bulletin for Khanfar, while al-Omari had a similar name to another hijacker, Abdulaziz al-Omari.
Reached by telephone, staff at the airline's offices in the Saudi city of Jiddah said Abdul Rahman al-Omari was in the building but refused to talk to the press. A Saudi newspaper editor said he spoke earlier to both men, and they were surprised their names came up in the investigation.
Meanwhile, members of Florida's congressional delegation in Washington wanted to get home but, like other Americans, couldn't book commercial flights as air traffic slowly returned to normal. They flew instead Saturday on a Florida Air National Guard plane making stops in Jacksonville, Orlando and the Miami suburb of Opa-locka.
U.S. Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, R-Fla., had her arms around her teen-age daughters at the Opa-locka airport when she said the hijackers' extensive Florida links were "unbelievable."
Thousands of Floridians arranged their weekend activities around memorial and church services in remembrance of nearly 5,000 people feared dead.
In Tallahassee, people planned to link hands in a candlelight vigil Sunday evening around the 12-acre Lake Ella in a show of unity.
The Key West Poker Run, an annual motorcycle gathering that carries riders the length of the Florida Keys, promised to donate all registration fees Sunday to disaster relief efforts. An estimated 16,000 motorcyclists were expected.
Why not just be honest and to the point back to me, and answer the questions?
U.S. fears attacks by 'sleepers'
By Jerry Seper
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
Security measures tightened nationwide yesterday to prevent "sleeper agents" from mounting new terrorist attacks, as the Justice Department identified the 19 hijackers who slammed three jetliners into the World Trade Center and the Pentagon on Tuesday in hellish attacks that killed thousands.
With as many as 100 suspected accomplices still on the loose, increased security measures were visible yesterday throughout the country, particularly in the nation's capital. Buildings continue to be searched and evacuated. Suspicious persons have been pulled off planes in New York and ordered out of cars at gunpoint in the District.
Federal authorities noted that several of the hijackers, all with suspected ties to U.S. officials' prime suspect in the attacks -- international fugitive Osama bin Laden -- had been in this country for years, living in relative obscurity before carrying out their mission of devastation. There are concerns that they were part of a network of "sleeper agents" who can be called on at any time.
U.S. intelligence officials believe the 44-year-old bin Laden, who founded and funds the terrorist organization al-Qaeda, has more than 3,000 operatives in 34 countries.
President Bush was heavily escorted yesterday by U.S. Secret Service agents to the National Cathedral for a prayer service, three agents sitting directly behind him in a church full of military and political figures. Military jets later accompanied Air Force One to New York, where the president met with rescue workers at the World Trade Center site.
Several airports have reopened, but Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport remained closed because of security concerns. A number of major cities have beefed up police security patrols, particularly in the wake of information developed by the FBI from interviews that Atlanta -- a major air transportation hub -- also may have been a target of the hijackers.
Last night, federal authorities made the first arrest in the worldwide investigation of the terrorist attacks, a government official said.
The suspect is believed to have information highly relevant to the investigation and is a high flight risk, said the official, speaking on the condition of anonymity. The Justice Department said the warrant identified the suspect as a material witness.
None of the hijackers, who perished after steering the fuel-gorged jetliners into their targets, was identified by his country of origin, but all had Middle Eastern names.
Justice Department officials, in releasing the names of the 19 air pirates, also distributed yesterday to 18,000 law enforcement agencies a list of more than 100 persons whom authorities want to question concerning Tuesday's attacks.
"These are the names of individuals the FBI would like to talk to because we believe they may have information that might be helpful to the investigation," Attorney General John Ashcroft told reporters at a briefing.
More than 4,000 FBI agents have questioned hundreds of people and tracked down more than 36,000 investigative leads as the ongoing probe -- known as "Pentbomb" -- spread throughout the United States. There have been no arrests in connection with Tuesday's attacks.
Seven of the hijackers were licensed pilots, and several received flight training in this country. A dozen of them were listed as having lived in Florida, including six in Delray Beach. Three were said to have lived in California, and two hijackers with the same last name were listed as having lived in Fort Lee, N.J. -- Nawaq Alhamzi and Salem Alhamzi.
The 19 hijackers accused of hijacking the four planes involved in the World Trade Center and the Pentagon attacks were:
* Marwan Al-Shehhi, 23; Fayez Ahmed; Mohald Alshehri; Hamza Alghamdi and Ahmed Alghamdi, who were flying on United Airlines Flight 175, which destroyed the south tower of the World Trade Center.
* Waleed Alshehri, 25; Wail Alshehri, 28; Mohamed Atta, 33; Abdulaziz Alomari, 38; and Satam Al Suqami, 25, who were aboard American Airlines Flight 11, which destroyed the north tower of the World Trade Center.
* Khalid Al-Midhar, Majed Moqed, Nawaq Alhamzi, Salem Alhamzi and Hani Hanjour, who were on American Airlines Flight 77, which hit the Pentagon
* Ahmed Alhaznawi, 20, Ahmed Alnami, Ziad Jarrahi and Saeed Alghamdi, 40, who were on United Airlines Flight 93, which crashed in Pennsylvania.
Mohamed Atta is believed to have been at the controls of American Airlines Flight 11, which took off from Logan International Airport in Boston and crashed into the World Trade Center's north tower at 8:45 a.m. Listing addresses in Hollywood and Coral Springs, Fla., he is believed to have taken flight training at Huffman Aviation in Venice, Fla.
Marwan Al-Shehhi also is believed to have received flight training at Huffman Aviation and at SimCenter Inc. in Opa-Locka, Fla. He was aboard United Airlines Flight 175, which crashed into the World Trade Center's south tower at 9:05 a.m. Authorities believe he may have been at the controls of the huge jetliner when it crashed.
Mohamed Atta and Marwan Al-Shehhi have been named by German authorities as members of an Islamic fundamentalist group that planned attacks on U.S. targets. German police have said the two men were from the United Arab Emirates.
Waleed Alshehri lived in Daytona Beach, Fla., and obtained a Social Security card in 1994. He also had a Florida driver's license, which expired in January, and a commercial pilot's license -- rated for both single and multi-engine aircraft. Authorities suspect he may have been the backup to Mohamed Atta on board American Airlines Flight 11.
Hani Hanjour received his commercial pilot's license in 1999, according to Federal Aviation Administration records, and was aboard American Airlines Flight 77, which crashed into the Pentagon at 9:39 a.m. He is believed to have lived in Phoenix and San Diego, but he listed a post office box in Saudi Arabia as his address.
Abdulaziz Alomari lived in Vero Beach, Fla., with his wife and four children in a $1,400-a-month town house. He was rated as a private pilot and flight engineer, listing his address as Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, according to FAA records. He was aboard American Airlines Flight 11 and was employed by Saudi Flight Ops, which handles maintenance for Saudi Airlines at John F. Kennedy International Airport in New York.
Wail Alshehri is said to have lived in Hollywood, Fla., and Newton, Mass.
Ziad Jarrahi, who was on board United Airlines Flight 93, which crashed in Stony Creek Township, Pa., at 10:10 a.m. is believed to have had a pilot's license from Hamburg, Germany, according to FAA records.
Previously, Justice Department officials, including Attorney General John Ashcroft, said there were 18 known hijackers on the four planes. A new name was added Thursday after it was learned that there were five -- not four -- hijackers on American Flight 77, which crashed into the Pentagon.
The FBI asked that anyone who has any information about the hijackers call 866/483-5137.
Meanwhile, nine travelers of Middle Eastern descent who were detained Thursday by police and FBI agents at two New York airports were cleared of any connection with the World Trade Center and Pentagon attacks. One man remained in custody while authorities checked his credentials, which included what police said was a fake pilot's license.
The FBI's massive manhunt for those who provided logistical support for the hijackers, including credit cards, cash, lodging and transportation, continued yesterday throughout the country. A force of 4,000 agents is conducting numerous interviews, serving more than 30 search warrants and hundreds of subpoenas in several states and checking what Mr. Ashcroft has called "thousands of thousands of leads."
Agents have seized hundreds of pieces of evidence, including computers and what FBI Director Robert S. Mueller III described as "other documentary information that we are following up on."
In Minnesota, the possibility emerged that the FBI knew before Tuesday's attack of at least one Arab man seeking the type of flight training the hijackers received. Authorities confirmed yesterday that the FBI detained an Arab man in Minnesota a few weeks ago after he tried to seek flight simulator training for a large jetliner.
Those who hijacked the four airliners for Tuesday's attacks are believed to have received similar training.
Authorities said FBI officials in Minnesota had no reason to charge the man at the time and instead began deportation proceedings. Those proceedings were ongoing when the attacks took place Tuesday. He is being held but is not cooperating with the FBI.
Elsewhere, U.S. and Philippine authorities searched a Manila hotel in connection with the investigation. Philippine officials also questioned a Saudi Airlines pilot and refused entry to nine Malaysian men suspected of having undergone terrorist training.
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