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To: meta
You people talk as if you are going to be expected to live like the "Taliban women" with your incessant whining about your liberties. The realistic worst case scenario is that we will have to live like the Israelis. Which of the civil liberties that the Israelis have given up are you so unwilling to, that you are willing to have innocent women and children murdered? Or innocent men? Or innocent civilians? Or innocent police officers? Or innocent firemen? etc. Get a grip. So there will be armed sky marshals on flights. HOW DOES THAT CONSTRAIN YOUR LIBERTY?
6 posted on 09/16/2001 3:15:35 PM PDT by HateBill
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To: HateBill
The Constitution and Bill or Rights does not have an "in case of War" exemption.
7 posted on 09/16/2001 4:57:38 PM PDT by DAnconia55
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To: HateBill
You people talk as if you are going to be expected to live like the "Taliban women"
with your incessant whining about your liberties.

The simple question was how liberty, the source of our strength as a nation,
can aid security today. No whining here, I think.
Care to help us think about strengthening America?

11 posted on 09/17/2001 12:15:12 PM PDT by meta
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To: HateBill
Which of the civil liberties that the Israelis have given up are you so unwilling to, that you are willing to have innocent women and children murdered? Or innocent men? Or innocent civilians? Or innocent police officers? Or innocent firemen?

I see that you have elevated safety over freedom. That's fine, but don't ever ask anyone to fight wars for freedom anymore. You see, wars are very dangerous things and people get killed, and since safety is worth more than freedom, dangerous wars for freedom don't make sense anymore. Since safety is now our biggest concern, you'll have to ask people to fight and die for safety, and that is a self-contradiction.

Your statement is a slap in the face of every American who made the ultimate sacrifice for our LIBERTY, not safety.

So there will be armed sky marshals on flights. HOW DOES THAT CONSTRAIN YOUR LIBERTY?

In case you haven't been paying attention, there's serious talk about lots of other measures including fingerprinting, national ID cards (internal passports), registration of citizens with local police, wiretaps without warrants… The list goes on and on and is only getting longer.

13 posted on 09/17/2001 12:22:48 PM PDT by freeeee
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