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Reuters: 20-25 thousand Afghan troops on Paki border
Reuters | Sep 17th, 2001

Posted on 09/17/2001 4:10:03 AM PDT by 12B

It's just a red bullet headline on my Reuters terminal. No text. Following headline says Paki troops are moving in response. I'll look for a link.


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1 posted on 09/17/2001 4:10:03 AM PDT by 12B
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To: 12B
Great, a nice soft target.
2 posted on 09/17/2001 4:12:57 AM PDT by Clinton's a rapist
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To: 12B
Man this is going to get ugly.

Like someone pointed out on a thread last night...I hope Bin Laden isn't waiting for a mass of people,in particular American troops,to be gathered in one place so he can show off his nuclear capability.

May God bless you and God bless America.

3 posted on 09/17/2001 4:14:53 AM PDT by mitch5501 (Jesus is Lord)
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To: 12B
How convenient! Aren't the Pakistani terrorist training camps supposed to be on the border? (Sorry about that collateral damage, guys; we were just trying to protect you :)
4 posted on 09/17/2001 4:15:28 AM PDT by Lion's Cub
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To: 12B
Just reported on FOX--Pakistan troops mobilizing on border.
5 posted on 09/17/2001 4:15:49 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: mitch5501
It got ugly last Tuesday...
6 posted on 09/17/2001 4:18:30 AM PDT by surfer
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To: 12B
In contrast to the Afghanis, Pakistan has a modern, professional army. The word "slaughter" springs to mind.

Regards, Ivan

FREE BRITANNIA
7 posted on 09/17/2001 4:19:02 AM PDT by MadIvan
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To: 12B
We should thank them for congregating for us. Makes for more efficient use of our bombs.
8 posted on 09/17/2001 4:19:10 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch
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To: mitch5501
And soon, Ben Laden-Ben Bombed.
9 posted on 09/17/2001 4:22:00 AM PDT by gulfcoast6
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights
MSNBC confirms.
10 posted on 09/17/2001 4:24:09 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: 12B
Time to test the international support we may have. We will see who has the guts for this.
11 posted on 09/17/2001 4:24:45 AM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: Wyatt's Torch
I was thinking last night that we need a "international battlefield." I keep having to find up to date world maps and memorize the countries and who lives where........I'm continaully relearning geography. It would be so much easier if all these skirmishes could all fight in the same place.
12 posted on 09/17/2001 4:26:06 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: 12B
Islam has just written its death warrant.

We will occupy and totally westernize the Middle East as we did Japan.

There is no alternative.


BUMP

13 posted on 09/17/2001 4:28:27 AM PDT by tm22721
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To: Howlin
Forward that idea up to the High Command, LOL!
14 posted on 09/17/2001 4:29:01 AM PDT by piasa
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To: 12B
Great post, 12B. Thanks, summer :)
15 posted on 09/17/2001 4:30:40 AM PDT by summer
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To: tm22721
I don't think so, Tim.
16 posted on 09/17/2001 4:30:45 AM PDT by piasa
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To: tm22721
hmm with the experience of Pokemon and anime in our culture we should expect to see McPita and baklawa ala mode in a few years
17 posted on 09/17/2001 4:31:40 AM PDT by arielb
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To: Howlin, all
Does anyone have a link to a good M.E. map so I can orient myself? And I'm also looking for that map going around last week that showed the "new" Middle East... the one that had a "new Texas" on it.
18 posted on 09/17/2001 4:33:44 AM PDT by Nita Nupress
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To: MadIvan
In contrast to the Afghanis, Pakistan has a modern, professional army.

Not to mention a modern air force, equipped with F-16s.

19 posted on 09/17/2001 4:34:51 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter
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To: 12B
Maybe the Afghans have learned from Saddam's mistake. When the US was about to use the Saudis as a launching pad, Hussein watched as a half million US troops landed. If Hussein marched in Saudi Arabia, the war would have started on his terms, not ours.

The Pakistani's may be a poor country, but they aren't afraid of a fight. Just ask India.

20 posted on 09/17/2001 4:35:18 AM PDT by n.y.muggs
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To: surfer
Yes it certainly did...I hope you don't think I believe otherwise.

God bless you and God bless America.

21 posted on 09/17/2001 4:35:34 AM PDT by mitch5501 (Jesus is Lord)
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To: mitch5501
Certainly would make it easier if they would all just gather in one place for us....bombing them hiding in the mountains would be much harder
22 posted on 09/17/2001 4:39:05 AM PDT by freeper12
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To: Nita Nupress
Let me see if I can find one. I need one, too!
23 posted on 09/17/2001 4:41:21 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Nita Nupress
Start here:

Middle East Maps

25 posted on 09/17/2001 4:45:59 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: DistantVoice
You think Japan has been "westernized"? Sorry. You have no idea about what's under that westernized veneer.

Whatever it is, it works for me.

26 posted on 09/17/2001 4:48:00 AM PDT by Clinton's a rapist
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To: freeper12
The land routes from Afghanistan into Pakistan are through mountain passes ...excellent for a guerilla war but put Afghanistan at serious disadvantage if they think of taking on Pakistan in a conventional ground war...particularly with almost no air cover.
27 posted on 09/17/2001 4:50:08 AM PDT by spokeshave
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To: 12B
The Afghans do understand one thing - the best defense is a good offense. This is going to be messy, I'm afraid. The whole world deserves it. God have mercy on America, and grant us undeserved success. Maybe we will emerge stronger than ever.
28 posted on 09/17/2001 4:50:23 AM PDT by agrandis
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To: Nita Nupress
Map of Middle East
29 posted on 09/17/2001 4:50:39 AM PDT by be-baw
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To: Nita Nupress
Afghanistan Maps

This whole site seems to be VERY good!

The University of Texas at Austin Perry-Castañeda Library Map Collection

30 posted on 09/17/2001 4:50:44 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin
One thing that has been bothering me is China's limited border with Afghanistan. It's rugged country, all right, but it's still summer, and I wonder if Ben Laden is already staying at a military base in Western China somewhere.
31 posted on 09/17/2001 4:54:03 AM PDT by agrandis
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To: MadIvan
One thing they have had issued to them, a reverse gear in their combat boots. Patten was given to Say-Dam 'Who dune it' and he passed it on to them.
32 posted on 09/17/2001 4:54:04 AM PDT by gulfcoast6
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To: Howlin
Operation Noble Eagle geography lesson #1-
Afghanistan and Pakistan are NOT in the middle east - they are in Asia.
33 posted on 09/17/2001 4:54:22 AM PDT by error99
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To: 12B
So this is, what, 25,000 towelheads waving sticks and throwing rocks for Allah? Against the well-armed and well-trained Pakistan military?
34 posted on 09/17/2001 4:55:32 AM PDT by gopgen
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To: 12B
NUKE EM.
35 posted on 09/17/2001 4:58:53 AM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: MadIvan
In contrast to the Afghanis, Pakistan has a modern, professional army. The word "slaughter" springs to mind.

INsert the word "the USSR" for "Pakistan" above, and you could have said that in the 80s. Of course, the Afghans were fighting in their own territory then. But every Pakistani I have ever known is a pansy (of course, students in the USA are often pansies). But the key factor, as always, is motivation. I don't think Pakistan has the will to fight the Afghans right now, but the Afghans have their back to the wall, and an underdog, protect-home mentality right now. If they were to penetrate into Pakistan very far, that might change, not to mention the US would probably fairly wipe them out from the air in Northern Pakistan. Just thinking out loud.

36 posted on 09/17/2001 5:00:05 AM PDT by agrandis
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To: tm22721
Airdrop McDonalds (capitalism) and DSS dishes (MTV will destroy from within)
37 posted on 09/17/2001 5:00:28 AM PDT by KneelBeforeZod
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To: MadIvan
Do not underestimate the fighting capability of the Taliban... they are probably the closest things to barborous hordes that exist on earth today... they, in battle, have shown they show no respect for life, their own or others...

IN the past Afghanistan did beat back the British and the Russians... they have incredible resolve... they are extremists.

We should be arming and mobilizing the groups that opposed and dispise the taliban as much as anything else... they fight with the same style and determination, and can take them out.

I have no doubt we can destroy the taliban... but don't think for one minute that they will be less determined and tenacious than the Japanese were in the south pacific... They will fight to the last man.

38 posted on 09/17/2001 5:01:49 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: tm22721
We will occupy and totally westernize the Middle East as we did Japan.

Perhaps we could act as a Republic, rather than as an empire. Or perhaps we could start a new website called "freeempire"

39 posted on 09/17/2001 5:02:57 AM PDT by Beenliedto
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To: Howlin
I was thinking last night that we need a "international battlefield." I keep having to find up to date world maps and memorize the countries and who lives where........I'm continaully relearning geography. It would be so much easier if all these skirmishes could all fight in the same place.

Oy vey!

Revelation 16:16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.

40 posted on 09/17/2001 5:03:01 AM PDT by Thinkin' Gal
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To: 12B
FOX and MSNBC have reported that Afghanistan also has Scud missiles near the Pakistani border.

I think we ought to let the Pakistanis know that we wouldn't object if they wanted to launch a pre-emptive attack (unless of course there is some military reason we don't want them in the way).

I also think we should announce that if the Afghans fire a single missile at Pakistan, we wil do even worse things to them than we would otherwise do.

41 posted on 09/17/2001 5:03:05 AM PDT by BurkeanCyclist
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To: agrandis
It is not a matter of a will to fight, it is the fact that the Taliban gets much of its support for members inside Pakistan. Pakistan will be launched into war if they choose to move against the government for aiding western powers... make no mistake here... the Taliban is not bound by borders...
42 posted on 09/17/2001 5:03:33 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: agrandis
I kind of doubt it. I think Ben Laden will stay near his supporters and not trust to a non-muslim foreign government. Plus, the Pamir valley is very difficult to get into and out of even in high summer. As I remember, the floor of the valley is over 10,000 ft above sea level.

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic!)

43 posted on 09/17/2001 5:06:41 AM PDT by LonePalm (Le RÚpublicain du verre cassÚ (The Broken Glass Republican))
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To: agrandis
We will wipe them out from the air, wherever they are. The Taliban, as a government and a movement, signed its own death warrant when it sponsored Tuesday's attack on the US, just as surely as the kamikaze pilots who carried it out. It's not surprising, because, just like those hijackers, the mullahs are a bunch of nutball losers with nothing to live for. They are going down, hard and soon.
44 posted on 09/17/2001 5:07:31 AM PDT by Clinton's a rapist
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To: HamiltonJay
I have no doubt we can destroy the taliban... but don't think for one minute that they will be less determined and tenacious than the Japanese were in the south pacific... They will fight to the last man.

Yeah, but the Japanese people were unified behind the Emperor. Are the Afghan people behind the Taliban, or will most Afghans just try to get out of the way?

45 posted on 09/17/2001 5:09:02 AM PDT by BurkeanCyclist
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To: tm22721
Do you think Japan is totally westernized, friend? Friendly, yes. Pacifist, definitely. But westernized, not. And thank goodness for that. Women still act like women. Homosexuals stay in the closet. People still return lost wallets full of cash.
46 posted on 09/17/2001 5:09:02 AM PDT by Vigilanteman
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To: Howlin, be-baw
THANK YOU!
47 posted on 09/17/2001 5:11:48 AM PDT by Nita Nupress
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To: error99
Yeah, I figured that out.........LOL.
48 posted on 09/17/2001 5:13:53 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: 12B
Quack Quack. Sitting ducks! Get up on the mountains and just pick them off one by one.
49 posted on 09/17/2001 5:14:01 AM PDT by Mannaggia l'America
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To: agrandis
I wonder if Ben Laden is already staying at a military base in Western China somewhere.

The Chinese have their own Islamic Fundamentalism problem in their western provinces. The enemy of my enemy is my friend, but not if he is already my enemy.

50 posted on 09/17/2001 5:14:23 AM PDT by No Truce With Kings
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