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Freeper suggestions for fixing the "Bin Ladin" problem
Self | Sep 19, 2001 | The Duke

Posted on 09/18/2001 10:48:55 PM PDT by The Duke

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To: The Duke
A similar take on your ideas. I think we make it clear to anyone who supports this man that they will be destroyed, utterly destroyed. At the individual level that means killing and defiling their bodies so they do not get into "heaven". Martyrs are much less likely to give their lives for the cause if they are not going to get their virgins as a reward. A little pork blood in their village wells, slaughter their sheep, destroy their crops. At the corporate level destroy their wealth, businesses, ruin their lives and make their life here on earth hell. We as Americans need to learn the harsh lesson that few people love us and many envy and hate us. With this in mind we must remember the words of the great Roman playwright Attius, "Let them hate, as long as they fear." We do not have to end terrorism in the world just make sure that nobody ever has the balls to attack us again.
21 posted on 09/19/2001 2:04:07 PM PDT by redangus
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To: steve in DC, The Duke
I agree, the Afghans are human after all. Here is my solution to the Bin Laden Problem. Give every Afghan citizen a free trip to the US (they can travel as a family if they want.) Show them Disneyland and Seattle and other pretty places you have, maybe even Alaska, too. Show them how you live there, the average American, then send them back to Kabul (or wherever they are from) with the notice: "You will never, ever live here; you will never, ever live like this" and "Your leaders are right over there, why don't you ask them about what you saw?"

I believe that whatever they do to their own leaders (possibly including Bin Laden) at that point would make the most militant and vengeful American cringe (if only just a little).

22 posted on 09/19/2001 2:05:37 PM PDT by Great Wombat
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To: That Poppins Woman
I don't know who Tony Soprano is, but from the context of your post I gather that "What would Tony Soprano do?" might involve Pyramids of human heads. Is that the idea?
23 posted on 09/19/2001 2:10:25 PM PDT by Great Wombat
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To: The Duke
1. Take Bin Ladin on a vacation to Alaska.

2. Smear his body with bacon grease.

3. Introduce him to the bears.

24 posted on 09/19/2001 2:10:46 PM PDT by headsonpikes
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To: Revolting cat!
Illegal immigrants should not and can not be afforded the same legal status as Americans. Talk about a deterrent! LOL

We must have absolutely the most strict and stringent immigration standards in the history of the world but especially for people coming from and people who were born of any country that supports, aids and abets any form of terrorism in any way, shape, manner or form. If I had my first choice, no one from any country that supports, aids or abets terrorism would ever be allowed a visa to the United States.

Any visas from any of the aforementioned countries should be audited and these people should be interviewed, have background checks and should be profiled. Any found to have violated their visa in any way should be immediately deported. Any found to be here illegally should be immediately deported. All of those deportations should be subject to the result of the profiling and background checks.

There may have to be a transition period regarding those we now find here who have been involved in any way, shape, manner or form in these terrorist actions. They should be tried and executed. No other penalty for their actions is acceptable. In the immediate wake of these terrorist acts, I don't believe you'll find ONE OJ jury.

We must first deal with our national security. If we keep these evil people outside of our borders, we can deal with their actions in their own countries leaning on these countries with force to end the terrorist actions originating within their own borders.

How's that for starters?

25 posted on 09/19/2001 2:28:03 PM PDT by Clinton's a liar
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To: The Duke
--yes, I have one. You create a surrounding guerrilla army around him who hates his presence and the talibans. You support the poor and oppressed people there by targeting the fasicst goon leadership infrastructure that most of them do not support anyway. Do it now before they have a chance to indoctrinate another generation of children.

For example, we dropped millions of single shot "liberator" pistols into occupied europe during ww2. With them you attach a cartoon showing someone using the pistol to dispatch some goon and take his rifle. We could do that. Use propoganda and psyops there. Drop dried and canned food and farming seeds to the millions of peasants there, make sure they know that these come from the generosity of the people of the US. You drop them vitamins, etc. all intermixed with small pamphlets showing our beef is ONLY with bin laden and the taliban extremists who do NOT follow the true teachings of the koran. Show some other cleric or mullah telling the poor people there to rise up and resist the taliban and bin laden. Instead of injecting some thousands of US troops on the ground, we create an internal army of millions to topple the taliban.

There are plenty of folks will advocate extensive usages of nuclear weaponry there, which I think would be a mistake. Yes, we should try and take out the top taliban and other exteremists leadership, but we should also seek to make allies of the oppressed people there and not start a war with one billion moslems, unless that's the goal, to actually start a full scale ww3, and lose middle eastern oil, etc.

This is one alternative. If we do that, and succeed, then we go in and help them set up a representative government that is honest and not corrupt and not extremists. We did it with germany and japan, in japans case, with a culture of differing religions and deifferent ethncity than the majority of US people at the time. it worked perfectly OK in the past, no reason it couldn't work again. We told those people who our beef was with, and hung the (*^%^%ds, but we supported the rank and file peons there, showed them a "better way" to live and have a government.

We "suceeded" before in afghanistan only to fall short and abandon them, similar to how we suceeded in iraq then stopped short of toppling saddam and the republican guards army he had. We got *this close* to fully suceeding that time, we should learn from our mistakes once in awhile, and from our sucesses.

26 posted on 09/19/2001 2:30:30 PM PDT by zog
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To: Great Wombat
Heads of those involved, heads of their children, their parents, their neighbors, their bankers, their friends, their cousins, their government, their clerics, everyone they've ever seen or spoken with.

Tony Soprano is a character on the HBO show "The Sopranos", a drama about an Italian family that heads a crime syndicate in New Jersey.

27 posted on 09/19/2001 2:32:40 PM PDT by That Poppins Woman
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To: The Duke
Let's begin with an extended Psyops campaign.

Up until 1996, when the Taliban took over, Afghanistan was becoming increasingly "westernized", particularly the women of the country. I'd be willing to bet that they feel somewhat oppressed these days and might respond well to promises of western-style freedoms.

Once we've psyched them up, so to speak, we airdrop a couple of million WWII Liberator pistols with instructions to free themselves from the shackles of the medieval Taliban.

One of three things should happen:
1. The women shut off all nookie until their men take up the pistols and off the Taliban.
2. The Taliban retaliate against the women, enraging the men who then off the Taliban.
3. The men and women ignore our psyops and keep the pistols to use against us. Seeing as how these are single-shot, 1" barrel .45's, however, they are of limited use against our ground forces who wouldn't allow them to come within 50'.

Let 'em do their own dirty work.

28 posted on 09/19/2001 2:33:14 PM PDT by Ol' Sox
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To: zog
You beat me by three minutes with almost the exact same ideas! I need to type faster...
30 posted on 09/19/2001 2:35:55 PM PDT by Ol' Sox
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To: The Duke
Machiavelli (The Prince) understand power well.

It is much better to be feared than to be loved.

Americans must regain the respect to walk anywhere on the face of the planet, flag flying proudly, without fear.

Like the ancient Romans, no one would dare touch us.

It is past time.

Begin.

31 posted on 09/19/2001 2:42:36 PM PDT by Stallone
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To: Clinton's a rapist
bin Laden is playing a bigger game. He expects, perhaps rightly, that the poor masses of the Muslim world will rise up against their governments once the war starts. He has spoken of reestablishing a Caliphate: a single united Islamic regime under a single legitimate (from a Sunni perspective) successor to Mohammed. Any bets on who he'd like to be Caliph and Guardian of the Two Holy Mosques. (If you need a hint, he's from Saudia Arabia, but isn't a Saudi citizen.)

Even a little success in this will have very grave (if not horrendous) consequences for the world.

32 posted on 09/19/2001 2:46:02 PM PDT by The_Reader_David
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To: Ed Toner
This IS intriguing.

How about a massive offensive, followed by a media blitz of PORKING the terrorist carcasses?

How about dressing pilots and flight attendants in pigskin airline uniforms?

Hey...serving pork ONLY for in-flight meals...

Good God, the possibilities are endless!

These cretins are (soon to be) history...

33 posted on 09/19/2001 2:49:32 PM PDT by Stallone
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To: That Poppins Woman
. . . and the heads of those who remind you of any of them. . .
34 posted on 09/19/2001 2:57:07 PM PDT by Great Wombat
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To: The Duke

35 posted on 09/19/2001 2:59:41 PM PDT by jws3sticks
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To: The Duke
We found him!

Get the Army there ASAP, before he runs again!

36 posted on 09/19/2001 3:02:56 PM PDT by jws3sticks
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To: Clinton's a liar
Re #25: It's great for starters--the problem is the enemy is here, learning from us how to kill us.
37 posted on 09/19/2001 3:04:41 PM PDT by proud American in Canada
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To: Stallone
Use the PORK angle...

As Homer Simpson says...

Mmm... bacon

Here those words of wisdom now!
38 posted on 09/19/2001 3:08:24 PM PDT by Stallone
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To: Stallone
America fears the seemingly invincible suicide terrorists.

These super-fighters will die willingly because their belief is that they are rewarded with heaven and virgin delights for dying in a 'holy war'...

...unless...

They are contaminated with the blood of the swine.

Ladies and Gentlemen, the threat is over. Buy Boeing, American Airline, buy 'em all!

Publicly announce that any Islamic terrorist, anywhere in the world, will be buried in pigsh*t should he commit a suicide attack, and the cherised martyrdom is denied.

Finally, something useful for the media to do. Broadcast worldwide day and night.

And thus Rosie O'Donnell, sow, becomes our nation's greatest military threat.

So that's why Rosie's been selected to MC the nationwide benefit! Bush is a genius!

Porkbelly futures are looking up! Everything's coming up Rosie!

39 posted on 09/19/2001 3:27:20 PM PDT by Stallone
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To: Lonely NY Conservative
If we were to actually catch him alive I suggest we release him into the general prison population at Leavenworth. The thought of him being sodomized by 730 convicts before reaching the 73 virgins awaiting him in paradise would be poetic justice.

My preference would be that, after the twin towers have been rebuilt, bin Laden is taken to the top and nudged over the side. He'll have the whole way down to think about things. Of course, just before he goes over, we should ask him the question Hannibal Lector poses to the Italian Police Inspector:

"So, Mr. bin Laden, what will it be? Bowels in, or bowels out?"

40 posted on 09/19/2001 3:34:14 PM PDT by laredo44
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