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BUSH APPOINTS PRO-ABORTION 'CATHOLIC' TO HEAD HOME SECURITY
LifeSite Daily News - September 21, 2001 ^ | September 21, 2001 | LifeSite Daily News

Posted on 09/21/2001 3:26:55 PM PDT by Dr. Brian Kopp

BUSH APPOINTS PRO-ABORTION 'CATHOLIC' TO HEAD HOME SECURITY

WASHINGTON, September 21, 2001 (LSN.ca) - In the wake of the recent terrorist attacks in the United States, President George Bush announced last night the creation of a Cabinet-level position to head the new Office of Homeland Security. In a great disappointment to pro-lifers, Bush named notoriously pro-abortion Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Ridge, to head the office.

Matt Abbott, director of public affairs for America's Pro-Life Action League told LifeSite, "If Ridge refuses to ensure the security of the most helpless citizens of his state - the unborn - how can he be expected to safeguard security for the nation?" Abbott also commented that Ridge is "a self-proclaimed Catholic while maintaining his strident pro-abortion position. What kind of principles does a person like that have? It makes you uncertain of such a person's leadership qualities."

See related coverage on the position and Ridge's pro-abortion stand:

http://dailynews.yahoo.com/htx/nm/20010920/ts/attack_bush_homeland_dc_2.html

http://www.dailycatholic.org/issue/2001Mar/mar21for.htm


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1 posted on 09/21/2001 3:26:55 PM PDT by Dr. Brian Kopp
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2 posted on 09/21/2001 3:27:28 PM PDT by Dr. Brian Kopp
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3 posted on 09/21/2001 3:30:20 PM PDT by Dr. Brian Kopp
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To: proud2bRC
Matt Abbott, director of public affairs for America's Pro-Life Action League told LifeSite, "If Ridge refuses to ensure the security of the most helpless citizens of his state - the unborn - how can he be expected to safeguard security for the nation?"

I'm very anti-abortion. But this is a stupid time and a stupid place to be working this angle. Ridge is now pro-death - as in the deaths of terrorists - and his abortion views have absolutely no bearing on the job he faces. The Pro-Life Action League will come off no better than Peter Jennings if they keep this up.

4 posted on 09/21/2001 3:30:46 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: proud2bRC
"If Ridge refuses to ensure the security of the most helpless citizens of his state - the unborn - how can he be expected to safeguard security for the nation?"

I am no fan of Tom Ridge's, especially regarding abortion and outcomes-based education, but this statement is illogical and does nothing to bolster the pro-life cause.

5 posted on 09/21/2001 3:31:44 PM PDT by mountaineer
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To: proud2bRC
You must not have gotten the memo, it's one america right now. You are either with GWB or you are not, which is it?
6 posted on 09/21/2001 3:32:01 PM PDT by The Vast Right Wing
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To: proud2bRC
Thanks for the post. I couldn't remember last night what I knew about his position on abortion.

My thought after hearing of the new cabinet position is, "this office will someday be used to persecute Christians." My husband and son agreed with me.

Then I came home this afternoon in time to hear Ollie North talk about how this homeland security office will make computers between different departments "seamless". Instant access to any and all information it has on any person. Interesting.

Maranatha!

7 posted on 09/21/2001 3:33:02 PM PDT by beGlad
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To: proud2bRC
It's all part of Bush's plan to make the war on terrorism acceptable to the liberals. We are not killing terrorists, we just performing 93rd trimester abortions.

No weren't we silly to worry! :->

8 posted on 09/21/2001 3:34:38 PM PDT by pikachu
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To: proud2bRC
What the hell does his view on abortion have to do with his abilities for this post? What does it have to do with his leadership abilities? Guliani is pro-abortion. Are you questioning his leadership? I am anti-abortion, but it's not my sole criteria for judging someone. Some people need to get a life.
9 posted on 09/21/2001 3:40:58 PM PDT by Hiro Protaginast
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To: proud2bRC
Single-issue morons.
10 posted on 09/21/2001 3:41:58 PM PDT by jude24
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To: proud2bRC
Bush named notoriously pro-abortion Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Ridge, to head the office.

And?

11 posted on 09/21/2001 3:43:53 PM PDT by SunStar
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To: Hiro Protaginast
Guliani is pro-abortion.

Great point. Does his stand on abortion somehow invalidate the amazing things he has done in the past 10 days?

12 posted on 09/21/2001 3:46:11 PM PDT by TomB
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To: proud2bRC
Not only do I wish the gov to stay out of my bedroom, my gun cabinet, my car, and my business, I want them to stay very far away from my doctor and me.

Get out of my life, government! Thank you, JL

13 posted on 09/21/2001 3:46:13 PM PDT by lodwick (Let's Roll!)
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To: proud2bRC
so what?
14 posted on 09/21/2001 3:46:43 PM PDT by satire
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To: proud2bRC
So you're saying we should put a litmus test on all appointees to make sure they meet your specifications? Sorry, Bub, I can't accept that!

The abortion issue should not be policized at all, and should left to each individual's conscience.

We have to recognize that we are all Americans, and will do the job the best possible. That's what counts!

15 posted on 09/21/2001 3:46:48 PM PDT by Sen Jack S. Fogbound
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To: proud2bRC
Let me join in the bashing. As a pro-life fanatic, I'm glad Ridge isn't VP; but if he can do the job, his view on abortion is irrelevant.

This country is NOT a monolith. Gee, the person who cleans my teeth might be pro-abortion. Should I inquire as to her views before allowing her to do her job?

Ridge isn't likely to shape administration policy, nor succeed the President. Kind of like Christy-Todd Whitman.

17 posted on 09/21/2001 3:49:12 PM PDT by mombonn
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To: proud2bRC
BTW, he's a gun grabber too.
18 posted on 09/21/2001 3:49:50 PM PDT by Lanman
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To: dirtboy
Within the honorable pro-life movement is an element of fanatics so focused on the issue nothing else matters.

In the Dallas Morning News yesterday, we had a letter to the editor from someone who said she could not
understand why we are morning 6,000+ dead in the WTC attack, when there are 4,000 abortions a day.

Amazing.

19 posted on 09/21/2001 3:50:58 PM PDT by Storm Orphan
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To: Storm Orphan
"Within the honorable pro-life movement is an element of fanatics so focused on the issue nothing else matters. "

Also within the honorable pro-life movement are a few professional fundraisers who have only one goal, and that goal is not saving children.

20 posted on 09/21/2001 3:58:04 PM PDT by bayourod
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To: proud2bRC
Cool, eh? :-) Go!! W!! Go!!
21 posted on 09/21/2001 3:58:08 PM PDT by Howie66
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To: proud2bRC
You are a JERK........
22 posted on 09/21/2001 3:58:14 PM PDT by Gmax
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To: proud2bRC
well that does it. now he's going to let the terrorist in to abort babies...
23 posted on 09/21/2001 3:59:18 PM PDT by go star go
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To: bayourod
Zing!
24 posted on 09/21/2001 3:59:22 PM PDT by Storm Orphan
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To: bayourod
Ah, yes...our movement's answer to the race-baiting povert pimps.
25 posted on 09/21/2001 4:04:57 PM PDT by Poohbah
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To: proud2bRC
Well, Dr. Kopp, you've gotten your answer.

FReepers, especially those of us who are pro-life, can make distinctions. Something you, as a one-issue voter, can't.

Ridge's views on abortion have nothing to do with this administrative position.

You come across as a priggish church lady.

26 posted on 09/21/2001 4:05:56 PM PDT by sinkspur
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To: proud2bRC
Bush has appointed (or I prefer moved) others...Christie Todd Whitman is a baby-killer; she's now in a position that she can't do anymore damage to the pro-life cause.

He's moving Ridge to another position; this allows for maybe a pro-life replacement to take his place in PA.

27 posted on 09/21/2001 4:06:02 PM PDT by George from New England
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To: dirtboy
"The Pro-Life Action League will come off no better than Peter Jennings if they keep this up.

I too am anti abortion, and I'm with you on this.

But I sure wish the Arabs would have started practicing abortion about 40 or 50 years ago!

28 posted on 09/21/2001 4:08:51 PM PDT by Bill Rice
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To: proud2bRC
Golly, Gee Whiz. If my memory serves me right, weren't most of the Europeans who participated in the Crusades Catholic? Is there a hidden agenda here? END OF SARCASM!!! Get a life for God's sake (pun intended).
29 posted on 09/21/2001 4:10:31 PM PDT by ProudFossil
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To: proud2bRC
SO WHAT?
30 posted on 09/21/2001 4:10:33 PM PDT by Cannon6
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To: proud2bRC
So what, I abhor abortion, but I don't think Ridge will be sending CIA, or FBI agents to any abortion clinics in his new position. Nice timing , thanks for the heads up. Sheeeesh, lighten up, I'll help you fight that battle when we have a target.
31 posted on 09/21/2001 4:10:52 PM PDT by carlo3b
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To: proud2bRC
To be honest, I don't see what a person's views on abortion have to do with homeland security...
32 posted on 09/21/2001 4:10:59 PM PDT by ContraryMary
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To: dirtboy
Exactly-- all the single issue people ARE IDIOTS. Unless the single issue they're interested in is the war. The world changed on September 11 and only the fools don't know that.
33 posted on 09/21/2001 4:11:35 PM PDT by walden
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To: proud2bRC
Matt Abbott, director of public affairs for America's Pro-Life Action League told LifeSite, "If Ridge refuses to ensure the security of the most helpless citizens of his state - the unborn - how can he be expected to safeguard security for the nation?"

You've GOT to be kidding me.

34 posted on 09/21/2001 4:11:45 PM PDT by L.N. Smithee
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To: Proud2BeRC
Thanks RC for giving us a heads up on something we should all be aware of.

I like Bush (though I would like him more if he went after 'Toon corruption and treason) but this could end up in one large POWER GRAB for the Government, and I think Freepers of all people should be the ones casting a weary eye at some of the govenments actions.

35 posted on 09/21/2001 4:12:23 PM PDT by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton
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To: L.N. Smithee
Matt Abbott, director of public affairs for America's Pro-Life Action League told LifeSite, "If Ridge refuses to ensure the security of the most helpless citizens of his state - the unborn - how can he be expected to safeguard security for the nation?"

That's almost as stupid as "If you can't trust me with a choice, how can you trust me with a child?"

36 posted on 09/21/2001 4:13:40 PM PDT by L.N. Smithee
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To: JMJ333
As soon as I heard about Ridge, I thought, "Jeez, I wonder what kind of protection he's gonna offer the unborn child in the womb?"
37 posted on 09/21/2001 4:18:37 PM PDT by SlickWillard
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No one else to do this JOB? I can't stand this guy. He stinks.
38 posted on 09/21/2001 4:18:52 PM PDT by Mr.E
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To: mountaineer
Tom Ridge must have had a D & C on his skull.

It will be years before he is taken seriously again.

So9

39 posted on 09/21/2001 4:19:32 PM PDT by Servant of the Nine
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To: proud2bRC
How about somebody that is against RKBA

....In May of 1994, then Rep. Tom Ridge teamed up with President Bill Clinton, Sarah Brady (HCI) and Rep. Charles Schumer (D-NY) to pass the semi-auto gun and magazine ban. By casting his vote for the gun ban in a narrow 216 to 214 loss for America's gun owners, Ridge's one vote can arguably be blamed for its passage and subsequent inclusion in the Clinton crime bill of 1994. In August of 1994, after GOA led a coalition of grassroots activists which nearly defeated the Clinton crime bill, Ridge continued his opposition to America's gun owners. He voted for the rule to bring the crime bill and its gun ban to the floor for a vote. (Ridge was one of only 42 Republicans to do so.) He then voted for final passage of the crime bill -- one of only 46 Republicans to do so. In the Spring of 1995, Sarah Brady teamed up with newly elected Gov. Tom Ridge to push one of Pennsylvania's most restrictive state gun control laws in a long time -- Act 17. As Pennsylvania's Governor, Ridge presided over the passage of Act 17, and then signed it into law. GOA opposed this bill from its inception and teamed up with several pro-gun state organizations to lead the national charge against the bill. Act 17 registered and taxed long gun buyers and placed other restrictions on Pennsylvanians' gun rights. ...

40 posted on 09/21/2001 4:19:40 PM PDT by Lanman
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To: proud2bRC
A Vietnam grunt platoon leader, with a Bronze Star. I'm with it.
41 posted on 09/21/2001 4:23:11 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: proud2bRC
I'll just post a few comments here from other threads:

1) An inalienable right to life, from conception to natural death, is the foundational principle upon which all other rights and freedoms are predicated. Ridge is pro-abortion. Therefore I fear he will not respect all our other rights, which flow from our inalienable right to life. (My own standard response. If you don't get this concept, God help us all--Proud2brc)

2) Abortion is murder. Those who support abortion, support murder. Supporters of murder are not only not fit for high public office, but they are also not fit for decent society, i.e., they should be shunned.

3) George W. Bush has claimed to be pro-life. (Of course, he's also perfectly willing to allow abortions in the case of rape or RU-486, so one can't put too much stock into what W. claims.) Yet, here he goes again, putting someone like Tom Ridge, who is publically in favor of protecting the murder of innocent children, into high office.

4) The pattern is clear to anyone who can crawl outside the box of two-party worldview. The Republicans can get away with making the unconstitutional, big-government changes that the Democrats can't. The Democrats then attain power and abuse the system that the Republicans have put in place for them. Meanwhile, they all get more powerful and more arrogant. While us serfs are expected to shut up, play by their rules and pay their friggin' bills.

5) picture this office run by a Clinton appointee. Say Reno. What if they decide that the REAL threat of domestic terrorism is "Armed Right Wing Extremists"? Think the BATF is rough now?

This office in the wrong hands is a potential disaster for our country. God help us if its ever run by a Beria or a Derzhinsky.

6) picture this office run by a Clinton appointee. Say Reno.....Gun-grabber Ridge is better than Reno. By how much, though?

42 posted on 09/21/2001 4:25:22 PM PDT by Dr. Brian Kopp
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To: Lanman
The reason Ridge has been given this job is because GWB lusts after PA's electoral votes in 2004. Florida is looking very shaky, and he must have PA. What better way than to have the PA Governor for the Home Defense billet, and perhaps being groomed for the V.P. slot.
43 posted on 09/21/2001 4:26:32 PM PDT by Plutarch
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To: mountaineer
So I guess he wants to diss Rudy too. Yes, there are the times that try men's souls..but please stand down in this particular instance. Ridge has a job to do that has nothing to do with abortion. You won, the man isn't vice president and thank you for that but now we hve work to do......LET'S ROLL
44 posted on 09/21/2001 4:26:48 PM PDT by OldFriend
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To: Plutarch
That me be true about PA, but the leader of Homeland Defence must support the right to life and the RKBA. How can he not?
45 posted on 09/21/2001 4:28:47 PM PDT by Lanman
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To: SlickWillard
As soon as I heard about Ridge, I thought, "Jeez, I wonder what kind of protection he's gonna offer the unborn child in the womb?"

I didn't know you could be a practicing Catholic and also pro-infanticide. He's CINO, just like the Kennedy's.

I don't suppose he will have to offer protection to the womb, since [thankfully] this position doesn't deal with that type of issue.

46 posted on 09/21/2001 4:34:04 PM PDT by JMJ333
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To: proud2bRC
It makes you uncertain of such a person's leadership qualities.

No, it doesn't. President Bush has done here what he has done in every other position of leadership. He has chosen the most qualified person for the job rather than looking only at his or her position on other issues.

This is precisely why America is in such good hands right now. Every Cabinet position is filled with a top notch person..........including Tom Ridge.

To tell the truth, I am more worried about the lack of support of the President from those of you who are rigid rightwingers, than I am from the peacenik left. Conservatives should be strong and united patriots right now, and instead you narrow rightists are just whining idealogues.

47 posted on 09/21/2001 4:36:38 PM PDT by ohioWfan
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To: dirtboy
I am pro-life...I have ACTUALLY rescued a baby (now a fine contributor to society)....but you are right Dirtboy...the anti-Bush types just don't know when to shut up...they HURT their causes by the constant cry baby tactics everytime Bush doesn't kiss their butts.
48 posted on 09/21/2001 4:37:39 PM PDT by Moby Grape
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To: Plutarch
and perhaps being groomed for the V.P. slot

Ah, there's the rub...does no one here comprehend the long term ramifications of this appointment??? Ridge was not made VP in 2000 because the Republican party was not yet ready for a pro-abort candidate. Maybe by 2004 the Republican voters WILL be ready, especially if Cheney's heart gives out and Ridge becomes Bush's VP sooner.

Never have I been so utterly disillusioned and disappointed by the rank and file Freepers here tonight. Your inability to see current anf future trends and perceive serious dangers within the "conservative" party is heartbreaking.

You've been warned.

I'm willing to be villified and flamed to get hard heads to comprehend the enormous implications of this appointment. How many of you are ready to stop your knee jerk condemnations and seriously examine the ramifications of this?

--Dr. Kopp

49 posted on 09/21/2001 4:38:38 PM PDT by Dr. Brian Kopp
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To: proud2bRC
The truth is the United States allows its citizens to reach into the safest place in the world (womb) and pull out the most defensless person in the world and kill them by the millions. Be carefull with your feelings on abortion because the same reasons given for abortion at the beginning of life will be the same ones given at the end of life. Think about it.
50 posted on 09/21/2001 4:39:23 PM PDT by manumission
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