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America's New Religiosity: God Bless America, But Don't You Dare Tell Us To Repent!
Alpha & Omega Ministries ^ | n/d | Dr. James White

Posted on 09/22/2001 10:00:05 AM PDT by BibChr

            Christians are unpopular folks today.  I mean by that, anyone who takes seriously biblical truth and biblical principles will find himself on the sharp end of angry stares if we dare speak the truth in the midst of today’s national crisis.  To what do I refer?             America has all of a sudden gotten very religious.  There are vigils and candlelight prayer services on every corner.  People who hadn’t said “God” except in profanity for years are all of a sudden very pious and reflective.  Radio personalities who were focused upon tax cuts or some other political issue on Monday, September 10th are now mulling over the role of “evil” in our world.  The past week has turned the landscape upside down in many ways, to be sure.

            Lest anyone think this new religiosity is a reason for rejoicing for Christians, it most surely is not.  Oh yes, we are hearing old Christian hymns being sung.  Ostensibly Christian churches were full this past Lord’s day.  But there is no such thing as “partial Christianity,” nor is there any such thing as a Christianity that stands side by side with Islam, or Judaism, or Buddhism, and says, “We worship one God under many names.”  And surely, there is no Christianity that does not speak of repentance from sin.  The new religiosity of America has two basic foundational pillars: there is one God, unknown, but addressable under any variety of religious epithets, who has revealed absolutely nothing of objective value regarding His will regarding worship or human behavior; and second, this God has no wrath; knows nothing of sin or judgment; and hence, any person who dares to say that God would punish a person, or a nation, is a glowing heretic to the new American religiosity.

            The problem is easily seen: Christians believe, fundamentally, of necessity, that there is one true God.  This true God is not Allah.  This true God is not Krishna.  This true God is not the god of Joseph Smith or Buddha or the Sikhs or the Bahais.  Our God went to great lengths to differentiate Himself from all the gods of the peoples and religions that surrounded His ancient people, and that for a purpose He Himself proclaimed: He seeks true worship, worship based upon a knowledge of who He is in reality, based upon His revelation to man.  He does not grant to man the freedom to make images of Him, to worship Him in a manner that pleases the creature rather than the Creator.  God is particular about His worship.  His worship is intimately, vitally connected to truth.  Without truth, there is no worship of the Christian God.

            And the truth revealed by the Christian God in the Scriptures is without question when it comes to the matter of His law, sin, rebellion, punishment, wrath, and judgment.  One of the most amazing things to observe is the willingness shown by “evangelicals” to jump right onto the “we shall never utter a word about wrath or sin or punishment” bandwagon.  Is the remnant so small that almost no voices will be raised to cry out against this foolishness?  To withhold the truth about sin and judgment out of fear of man’s opinions and feelings is to make the cross of Jesus Christ a travesty!  There is no cross, there is no sacrifice, where there is no sin, no offense that demands forgiveness be wrought through His perfect sacrifice!  The person who refrains from speaking of sin and judgment to “win” a person over is doing so through unfaithfulness to the very gospel itself!  And to what has such a person been won over?  Where is the gospel when there is no sin to be forgiven at Calvary?  

            But it is right here that the new American religiosity clamps its hands over its ears and refuses to hear.  America wants God’s blessing.  America wants God to protect us from more horrific visions of airliners flying purposefully, relentlessly into our national monuments.  We want God to be near us as we board our aircraft.  We want Him to protect us from the horror of thinking about what it was like when the towers collapsed.  We want Him to guide our military and allow us to flex our muscle and launch our missiles with impunity.  We want a blessing God, a caring God, who simply panders to our wants and whims.  This is the “God” of the new American religiosity.

            But what America does not want is a God who is holy, who is just, and who has revealed His will concerning how we, His creatures, are to live.  America is a land soaked in blood.  We glory in violence.  We are so selfish, so bound in our avarice, fornication, and sexual lust, that we murder our own offspring in the womb (or at birth as in partial-birth infanticide).  Our hands are covered in blood, and yet we think lighting a candle and lifting them up while mumbling “God Bless America” is going to bring God’s favor?  Listen to the words of God to another nation that likewise was “religious” but refused to hear the word of repentance:

“So when you spread out your hands in prayer, I will hide My eyes from you; Yes, even though you multiply prayers, I will not listen. Your hands are covered with blood.”  (Isaiah 1:15).

Is America so arrogant, so utterly self-absorbed, so diseased by religious liberalism and philosophical subjectivism, that she thinks she can ignore all of history itself and demand from God blessings when she refuses to repent of her evils?  Do we really need to be reminded that Planned Parenthood has killed more little children in our land in the week since the attacks than died in the attacks themselves?  Are we so blind?

            Surely the scourge of abortion would be enough to warrant the unleashing of the wrath of God, but there is so much more!  We are a nation on a crusade—a crusade to wipe from our history books every vestige of our former religious past.  The religion of scientism, with its chief idol in the person of Darwin, has become enshrined in our very governmental policies.  There is no creator, we are told, to express His law for us in the first place. We want to banish God and His law from our courtrooms, our schools, our every public institution.  If God says it is wrong, we celebrate it.  Every form of sexual debauchery is found in the land.  The airwaves are filled with programs that exalt fornication and adultery.  Major film stars are lauded for the most sinful lifestyles.  Homosexuality is not only turned into an acceptable “lifestyle,” it is made a political right, a political force, a test-case for being properly “tolerant.”  The list goes on and on and on.  The widow and orphan is oppressed, while the nation indulges in every creature comfort, sits back in its luxury, looks about upon the bounty of the land, and says, “Ah, what the labor of my own hands, my own intelligence, my own insight, has accomplished.”

            Religious liberals may mock our “literalistic” reading of the Bible at this point, preferring to simply label us “fundamentalists” and ignorant, but the fact of the matter is, they know they could never win a scholarly debate on whether the Bible actually teaches that these things are sins which must, inevitably, bring God’s judgment upon a people.  They know that is exactly what the Bible teaches.  They are just embarrassed by it, and hence seek to suppress that truth. 

            As I said, Christians who believe the Bible are an unpopular lot today. If they speak in accordance with the Word they may well find themselves being called "unpatriotic" and "judgmental.".  In fact, given that the new orthodoxy demands of us the confession “Everyone is God’s child” over against such clear biblical teaching as John 1:12 (remember how Christians refused to say “Caesar is lord” and died as a result?), we must be ready to “count the cost” in engaging in formal, cultural “heresy” by speaking the truth.  We need to realize: this new American religiosity can take on the same kind of fanatic zeal that kept the hi-jackers’ hands steady all the way to their end.  May God grant His people the strength to proclaim loudly God’s demands upon a wicked nation, and may He be pleased to bring repentance and revival in a land where darkness reigns.


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Good thoughts. I'm fomenting my own essay, but thought Mr. White sounded some little-heard notes of importance.

Dan
How Can I Know God?
Biblical Christianity message board

1 posted on 09/22/2001 10:00:05 AM PDT by BibChr (filops@yahoo.com)
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To: JohnHuang2, Keyes for President, Buggman, dataman, southflanknorthpawsis, Cyber Liberty, caleb1411
Not mine own essay, but PING all the same!
2 posted on 09/22/2001 10:01:40 AM PDT by BibChr
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To: BibChr
ILOVETHEPOSITIONOFBEINGARADICAL"UNPOPULARTOTHEWORLD"CHRISTWANNABEBUMP

Cheese .

3 posted on 09/22/2001 10:05:24 AM PDT by AmericanCheeseFood
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To: BibChr
I have reservations on the post itself, but to you and your URLS there's a BUMP. To the message within the post, a BUMP.

Cheese .

5 posted on 09/22/2001 10:10:18 AM PDT by AmericanCheeseFood
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To: american arnie james
I do think the issue is a lot more complex than EITHER the "God had nothing to do with it" OR "It is the judgment of God" crowds are making it out to be. More later, God willing.

But there is no denying that this nation embraces practices and attitudes that God is on-record as loathing.

And that is never healthy!

Dan

6 posted on 09/22/2001 10:10:31 AM PDT by BibChr
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To: AmericanCheeseFood
I'll see your two BUMPs, and raise you a BUMP.

(c8

7 posted on 09/22/2001 10:11:17 AM PDT by BibChr
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To: BibChr
Barry Lynn of Americans for the Separation of church and state is theatening to sue Dr. White. It seems the two had a debate about homosexuality, and Mr Lynn is afraid that James White will make the tapes available to publice
8 posted on 09/22/2001 10:13:32 AM PDT by Sci Fi Guy
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To: BibChr
I don't see many "Christian Leaders" placing some of the blame on a lukewarm and complacent church...That is more to blame than any of the other reasons Falwell gave.
9 posted on 09/22/2001 10:15:32 AM PDT by GuillermoX
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To: BibChr
But there is no such thing as “partial Christianity,” nor is there any such thing as a Christianity that stands side by side with Islam, or Judaism, or Buddhism, and says, “We worship one God under many names.”

And you wonder why the American people treat you like the Taliban? Many of you extreme fundamentalists share common characteristics with religious fantatics elsewhere. Maybe you dont cut off the hands of criminals or stone women who wear western clothes but then you did burn your share of witches not that many years ago and before that you forced Arabs and Indians in the new world to forcibly convert to Christianity or die by the sword.

10 posted on 09/22/2001 10:15:52 AM PDT by Dave S
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To: BibChr
The quote I remember first when I hear God proclaimed by the "modern" mainline Christian (all loving, all forgiving, goes by many names, etc.)is this definition: "God, the Almighty Patsy."
11 posted on 09/22/2001 10:16:49 AM PDT by moneyrunner
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To: Dave S
Is your hatred so great that you place Jerry Falwell and Osama bin Laden in the same camp? If so, you are beyond reason, and beyond sanity.

Love and peace.

12 posted on 09/22/2001 10:20:09 AM PDT by moneyrunner
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To: Dave S
Why should Christians be forced to worship other Gods? Basic Christianity teaches there is but One God and only He is to be worshipped.

Being forced to accept other gods is Taliban-like.

13 posted on 09/22/2001 10:22:25 AM PDT by GuillermoX
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To: BibChr
Thanks for this post. Everything this pastor says rings true, but I have one quibble with this quote:

nor is there any such thing as a Christianity that stands side by side with Islam, or Judaism, or Buddhism, and says, “We worship one God under many names.”

Seems to me Christians and Jews do worship one and the same God.

(I have been thoroughly barraged on another thread for asking if Allah weren't just another word for God, so I accept that the god of Islam --and certainly of Buddhism or Ba'hai-ism etc.-- is not the God of Judaism and Christianity.)

What do you know about this?

14 posted on 09/22/2001 10:23:47 AM PDT by gumbo
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To: BibChr
Thanks for posting this, Dan. It is an excellent essay. With the fear of sounding "judgmental" (not really) I couldn't help my thoughts last night. As I caught the last minutes of the celebrity (for lack of a better term) bash and the reports about it on the late news, I was offended. Here stood all (at least most) these people who haven't really got a clue about God, yet throw His name around as if it is the buzz word of the day. It is and that's the problem. Talking about God and knowing Him are not the same thing.

I can only hope and pray that this horror has brought some people to their senses. Maybe some will realize that they should seek Him every day; not just when they are overwhelmed with helplessness.

15 posted on 09/22/2001 10:24:05 AM PDT by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: GuillermoX
"I don't see many "Christian Leaders" placing some of the blame on a lukewarm and complacent church...That is more to blame than any of the other reasons Falwell gave."

On the contrary. Many modern churches support the kind of sins that Falwell railed against. You want to abort, practice sodomy and commit adultery? Join the Methodists, Unitarians, and a number of other "Christian" sects.

16 posted on 09/22/2001 10:24:22 AM PDT by moneyrunner
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To: Dave S
Many of you extreme fundamentalists share common characteristics with religious fantatics elsewhere.

Guess what, Dave......God is extreme and demands that we glorify and worship Him and Him alone. You don't get it and likely never will. I feel sorry for you.

Now, go on with your predictable rant.

17 posted on 09/22/2001 10:28:02 AM PDT by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: Dave S
you did burn your share of witches not that many years ago

If you are referring to Salem, it was the secular authorities who executed the 'witches' (and btw, they were not burned), not the religious authorities.

In fact, it was the religious leaders who put a stop to the witch hysteria.

18 posted on 09/22/2001 10:29:10 AM PDT by gumbo
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To: gumbo
First, thanks for posting the article.

Seems to me Christians and Jews do worship one and the same God.

Judaism is monotheistic, they only believe in Jehovah. Christianity is trinitarian giving full divinity to the three Persons of the Godhead, Father, Son & Holy Spirit. Christ said that He is the only way to the Father, that there is NONE other. So while it is true that Judaism worships Jehovah, the Jehovah that they worship is not fully the Jehovah of Christianity.

19 posted on 09/22/2001 10:29:17 AM PDT by Mahone
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To: Mahone
Aren't there non-trinitarian Christians, e.g., Jehovah's Witnesses (I don't know, that's why I'm asking)?
20 posted on 09/22/2001 10:31:43 AM PDT by gumbo
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To: moneyrunner
I don't want to do any of those things. I'm against all that sinful behavior and would never belong to a church that condoned it.

Read about the Laeodician church in Revelation.

21 posted on 09/22/2001 10:33:50 AM PDT by GuillermoX
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To: BibChr
Casual Christianity doesn't work. God calls us to repent of sinful lifestyles and seek His wisdom in ALL things. (those two sentences will classify me as a: fanatic, fundamentalist, abortion clinic bombing thug, and worst of all - "born again" nut) I believe the most powerful tool Christian's have is their own testimony about how Jesus has changed their lives. Our own testimony of overcoming sinful desires, failures, anger, greed, etc. is very powerful.
22 posted on 09/22/2001 10:35:44 AM PDT by Sweet Hour of Prayer
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To: gumbo
Well, there are non-trinitarian Christians (Oneness). But, one cannot deny that Jesus is God and be a Christian, thus JW's are not Christian.

Oneness says there is but only One God, who manifested Himself to humanity in 3 ways.

23 posted on 09/22/2001 10:37:20 AM PDT by GuillermoX
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To: Sweet Hour of Prayer
I bring you some tid bits . A few links to further lengthen your chain to truth, or your chain noose depending .

Here's one which deals with some of Western Islams camoflauging into something more palletable in the land of the free . Also on the same site there's this which helps one see the 'same God' lie for the falseness that it is .

God of Christianity vs. Allah of Islam

By Abdullah Al Araby

Both Christians and Muslims share belief in a sovereign Deity who is one, heavenly, spiritual, the creator of heaven and earth and the judge of all mankind. Christians call Him " God" and Muslims call Him "Allah". One may thus presume that the attributes of God and Allah are the same. A careful examination of the matter, however, will prove that it is not exactly so.

24 posted on 09/22/2001 10:38:39 AM PDT by AmericanCheeseFood
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To: Sweet Hour of Prayer
Casual Christianity doesn't work

These four words say it all.

25 posted on 09/22/2001 10:38:39 AM PDT by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: GuillermoX
I don't mean to disagree with you. I simply wanted to point out that the "lukewarm" churches living in our midst are lukewarm for a very good reason: they have replaced the old sins of the ten commandments with the new sins of a secular society. Thou shalt not commit adultery has been replaced by thou shalt not drive an SUV.

Love and peace.

26 posted on 09/22/2001 10:39:55 AM PDT by moneyrunner
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To: GuillermoX
Why should Christians be forced to worship other Gods? Basic Christianity teaches there is but One God and only He is to be worshipped. Being forced to accept other gods is Taliban-like.

Who the hell is forcing anyone to accept any of these gods? Mind your own fxx business. Its voices of intolerance whether from fundementalist Christian or Islam which is the trouble. Find God in your own way and dont feel that you have to destroy your neighbor to maintain your own faith. What a weak faith it is that cant stand proudly on its own.

By the way Judaism and Islam teach there is one god. Christianity plays around with three and calls it a mystery. Using the one god argument sounds a little hypicrital for a fundementalist Christian to attack other religions.

And by the way please tell me what denomination has the full truth on God's revelation to man. I dont want to put all my chips on one denomination only to find out they had some element wrong. So who is correct Southern Baptists or some other group? Is the pope the anti-Christ in your world view or merely mistaken?

27 posted on 09/22/2001 10:41:27 AM PDT by Dave S
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To: gumbo
Aren't there non-trinitarian Christians, e.g., Jehovah's Witnesses (I don't know, that's why I'm asking)?

No, they're a cult -- by definition. See Walter Martin's Kingdom of the Cults (a good reference book which I believe has been updated by a current author). Walter Martin is dead now, but his work is still valid.

Look at various "cult material" from authoritative Christian groups, which analyze this very thoroughly. It pays to know what constitutes Christianity from a Biblical perspective. And it's not everyone who says "I believe in God", or even "I believe in Christ." Even Christ Himself makes that very clear.

The two largest CULT GROUPS in this country are the Jehovah's Witnesses and the Mormons (Church of Christ of Latter Day Saints).

28 posted on 09/22/2001 10:43:24 AM PDT by Star Traveler (aldebaran6640@hotmail.com)
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To: Dave S
Wow, maybe you should take a walk around the block and cool off. You aren't very tolerant of divergent views, that is clear.

BTW, I'm not a trinitarian.

29 posted on 09/22/2001 10:44:31 AM PDT by GuillermoX
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To: moneyrunner
I simply wanted to point out that the "lukewarm" churches living in our midst are lukewarm for a very good reason: they have replaced the old sins of the ten commandments with the new sins of a secular society

How very true !!! I attend a very traditional, conservative church and we haven't replaced the "old sins". Yes, the pressure is there to do so, but we haven't caved. We have lost members (?????) because they don't want to hear about repentance, sanctity of life, the sin of homosexuality, etc. So be it. If they are offended by such preaching they are not truly seeking to worship the one true Triune God.

30 posted on 09/22/2001 10:44:46 AM PDT by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: AmericanCheeseFood
Ack, it won't let me post it all . Aw well I'll give the link .Good link, Allah of Islam VS. The Trinity!

"Beware of false prophets" (Matt. 7:15). Those who do ministry in a way pleasing to people and against the will of God, those who do not warn against sin, those who twist scriptures and try to justify any manner of living, those assembly preachers who talk about salvation though they themselves are not saved, babblers, those who do ministry with smooth and cunning words to satisfy their lustful desires, those who are likened to dogs which lap up their own vomit, those who give importance to signs and miracles but leave out salvation and holy life- the scriptures warn that all the above kinds of people are false prophets. The Lord tells us to beware of such false prophets and depart from them (Matt. 7:15-23).

Islams founder and others who now claim to be related to Christianity = false prophets .

Cheese.

31 posted on 09/22/2001 10:45:24 AM PDT by AmericanCheeseFood
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To: BibChr
The writer of this essay is correct. We want God's blessings, but we don't want to follow His laws. Divine judgement can be harsh. And paying lip service to God doesn't work.
32 posted on 09/22/2001 10:47:54 AM PDT by Don Myers
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To: moneyrunner
Is your hatred so great that you place Jerry Falwell and Osama bin Laden in the same camp? If so, you are beyond reason, and beyond sanity.

I didnt say a word in my post about Falwell, although he is a pompous fool. I criticised him last week for his foolish comments which Bush told him were wrong and inappropriate.

Those who preach hate against other religions and other denominations hardly have any reason to question someone's sanity unless they are un-christian. Turn the other cheek...

33 posted on 09/22/2001 10:48:03 AM PDT by Dave S
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To: GuillermoX
"I don't see many "Christian Leaders" placing some of the blame on a lukewarm and complacent church...That is more to blame than any of the other reasons Falwell gave."

There is plenty of blame to go around.

34 posted on 09/22/2001 10:49:06 AM PDT by Don Myers
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To: Dave S
I hate religion because it is spiritual bondage . I do however know Jesus and have a relationship with Him . I don't hate those who follow false beliefs, instead I view them as those in need of salvation, as I once was five years ago .

Cheese .

35 posted on 09/22/2001 10:50:51 AM PDT by AmericanCheeseFood
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To: BibChr
FYI

BIBLE vs. KORAN

36 posted on 09/22/2001 10:54:02 AM PDT by PaxMacian
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To: Dave S
It isn't hate, it's logic. If Christianity says God's nature and will is one thing, and other religions say it is something else, they cannot logically all be true. It isn't "intolerant" to notice that mutually exclusive propositions are, well, mutually exclusive.
37 posted on 09/22/2001 10:54:13 AM PDT by docmcb
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To: Dave S
Who the hell is forcing anyone to accept any of these gods? Mind your own fxx business. Its voices of intolerance whether from fundementalist Christian or Islam which is the trouble. Find God in your own way and dont feel that you have to destroy your neighbor to maintain your own faith. What a weak faith it is that cant stand proudly on its own.

Well, for one thing -- Islam is forcing others to believe this. They will kill their own, if they leave Islam for something like Christianity (for one thing). And they have built into their "religion" that they will ultimately force the whole world over to their belief (and by the "sword", too...)

Now, Christianity, as shown in the Bible, itself, does say that the whole world will come over to the true belief in the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob (which, by the way, is the same God of the Jews and the Christians). That's why the Islamic world is totally against Christians and Jews.

Now, in the Bible, it's Jesus Christ Himself who will establish His rule over the world in which He will rule with an "iron rod" over the whole world and do so from Jerusalem (His capital city).

It's not the Christians who will do so. It's directly by the hand of Christ when He returns. There's a big difference there. Christ will do this -- not the Christians in this world.

Now, what the Christians in this world are to do now is "proclaim the Gospel message" of Salvation to the world -- before the time comes when there is no more "choice" left for the person.

That time comes for us all -- either by death (after which comes the judgement, as told to us in the Bible) -- or at the time when Christ returns and the Kingdom is set up here on this earth (as it is in Heaven).

There is only one true God -- and there is no other besides Him and He is the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. That's true for Christians and Jews (not counting the little matter of who is the Messiah, which will soon be "resolved"). All other so-called "gods" in this world (and in any other religion are all false gods). They will all be destroyed and all such other religions will cease to exist.

38 posted on 09/22/2001 10:54:30 AM PDT by Star Traveler (aldebaran6640@hotmail.com)
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To: Star Traveler,BibChr, Pax-o-matic.
BUMP BUMP BUMP .

Repenting is a good habit to get into . I'm bookmarking this for later .

Cheese .

39 posted on 09/22/2001 10:59:52 AM PDT by AmericanCheeseFood
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To: Dave S
Lots of these threads over the past week have witnessed "Christians" clawing their way over each other to get to the top of the "Who is the most just among us" flagpole.

Jesus condemned this attitude, but it seems endemic to humanity.

And these threads will go on, and on, and on......

40 posted on 09/22/2001 11:02:30 AM PDT by sinkspur
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To: BibChr
Is America so arrogant, so utterly self-absorbed, so diseased by religious liberalism and philosophical subjectivism, that she thinks she can ignore all of history itself and demand from God blessings when she refuses to repent of her evils? Do we really need to be reminded that Planned Parenthood has killed more little children in our land in the week since the attacks than died in the attacks themselves? Are we so blind?

Surely the scourge of abortion would be enough to warrant the unleashing of the wrath of God, but there is so much more!

BUMP

41 posted on 09/22/2001 11:05:59 AM PDT by TLBSHOW
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To: gumbo
Gumbo, while it may upset some as not being politically correct, the groups you cite are NOT Christian. In our day of politcal correctness people have stopped labeling cults cults, but that is exactly what they are.
42 posted on 09/22/2001 11:06:59 AM PDT by Mahone
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To: BibChr
But it is right here that the new American religiosity clamps its hands over its ears and refuses to hear. America wants God’s blessing. America wants God to protect us from more horrific visions of airliners flying purposefully, relentlessly into our national monuments. We want God to be near us as we board our aircraft. We want Him to protect us from the horror of thinking about what it was like when the towers collapsed. We want Him to guide our military and allow us to flex our muscle and launch our missiles with impunity. We want a blessing God, a caring God, who simply panders to our wants and whims. This is the “God” of the new American religiosity.

But what America does not want is a God who is holy, who is just, and who has revealed His will concerning how we, His creatures, are to live. America is a land soaked in blood. We glory in violence. We are so selfish, so bound in our avarice, fornication, and sexual lust, that we murder our own offspring in the womb (or at birth as in partial-birth infanticide). Our hands are covered in blood, and yet we think lighting a candle and lifting them up while mumbling “God Bless America” is going to bring God’s favor? Listen to the words of God to another nation that likewise was “religious” but refused to hear the word of repentance:

these two paragraphs say it all.

43 posted on 09/22/2001 11:08:06 AM PDT by Salvation
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To: american arnie james
We would be a lot better off and probably have avoided this tragedy if we hadn't ceded so much ground to the evils of atheism, socialism, feminism, homosexuality, fornication, and pornography

And abortion.

44 posted on 09/22/2001 11:10:58 AM PDT by Salvation
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To: BibChr
SMOKIN'!</font size>

Do we really need to be reminded that Planned Parenthood has killed more little children in our land in the week since the attacks than died in the attacks themselves?

WHERE IS THE JUSTICE FOR THESE AMERICANS???????

46 posted on 09/22/2001 11:17:34 AM PDT by spoosman
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To: Dave S
How dare you, we don't "hate" other people for their religion. In fact we have tolerated ourselves almost out of existance.

However, we should fight the globalists efforts to lump all religion under one god, and claim that we are all worshiping the same god, we are not in anyway worshipping the same god.

The God of our religion proves himself to be God, telling us the ending from the begining. He is not some vague idea, some unformed thought, some wish of mankind, who has left us some self help, feel good about ourselves, PC, I'm ok Your OK manual. He has detailed his personality, what he expects, where we will fail, how he will save us from that failure, and what the future holds. Looking at past history reveals that the God we worship told from days of old what would happen then, and what will happen tomorrow. Our God is God.

49 posted on 09/22/2001 11:28:57 AM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: Dave S
"Those who preach hate against other religions and other denominations hardly have any reason to question someone's sanity unless they are un-christian. Turn the other cheek..."

You sanity is not in question - that issue is settled.

Next.

Love and peace.

50 posted on 09/22/2001 11:35:22 AM PDT by moneyrunner
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