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U.S. warns of another possible attack this week
abc ^ | 9/23/01

Posted on 09/22/2001 11:51:29 PM PDT by knak

TOKYO (Reuters) - The United States has warned its allies of a possible second round of attacks by the end of this week following the deadly recent strikes against New York and Washington, Jiji news agency quoted Japanese government sources as saying.

The next round of attacks, if really launched, would be on an even greater scale than those on September 11, which killed more than 6,000 people, according to information provided to Japan by the United States, Jiji said.

The news agency quoted the sources as saying on Saturday that the "means of terrorism" would be "more cruel and shocking" than in the September 11 carnage, when hijackers flew airliners into New York's World Trade Center and the Pentagon in Washington.

The targets of the possible attacks were unknown but possibilities included members of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) and Pakistan, Jiji said.

The government sources said attacks on Japan could not be ruled out since Tokyo has expressed support for U.S. retaliation against the September 11 strikes.

The United States has judged that a second round of attacks, if carried out, is likely by the end of this week at the latest, the sources said.

Japan's public security authorities have gone on heightened alert since receiving the information from the United States.

Washington suspects that a group led by fugitive Saudi-born millionaire Osama bin Laden has been contemplating attacks using biological and chemical weapons, such as sarin nerve gas, for years, according to the sources.

The United States has information that the group has already acquired small airplanes to spray bacteria causing smallpox or anthrax from the air, Jiji quoted the sources as saying.

Time magazine reported on Saturday that investigators had found a crop-dusting manual during a search for those responsible for the attacks on New York and Washington, triggering concern that crop-dusting planes might be used for chemical or biological assaults.

The FBI in Washington said it had not seen the report and had no comment on it.


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1 posted on 09/22/2001 11:51:29 PM PDT by knak
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To: knak
Yikes, I'd say the gubbermint knows alot more then it's telling the sheeple.
2 posted on 09/22/2001 11:55:06 PM PDT by seeker41
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To: seeker41
Yikes ! Bump
3 posted on 09/22/2001 11:58:18 PM PDT by error99
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To: seeker41
They not only know where bin Laden is, they know where the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse are.
4 posted on 09/22/2001 11:58:23 PM PDT by patriciaruth
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To: buccaneer81
My thoughts exactly.
6 posted on 09/23/2001 12:02:34 AM PDT by seeker41
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To: knak
The United States has information that the group has already acquired small airplanes to spray bacteria causing smallpox or anthrax from the air, Jiji quoted the sources as saying. One cannot prevent an ultralight aircraft from taking off since an open filed will suffice. A cannister of Sarin or a bio-agent is easily carried and sprayed from such a craft, without even being a suicide mission. It is time for the citizenry to take more of an active roel in our own alertness and defense.
7 posted on 09/23/2001 12:03:09 AM PDT by MHGinTN
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To: knak
I got a feeling the threat won't end after the week is over.
8 posted on 09/23/2001 12:04:00 AM PDT by vox1138
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To: knak
Smallpox

Smallpox????? That is supposed to be gone. I know that it may have been stolen from the Russians, and that Clinton refused to allow our reserves to be destroyed(the ONLY thing he did right in my opinion). But, how much would they have?

I was vaccinated when I was a baby, but my son wasn't. Are they intending to wipe out the young?

9 posted on 09/23/2001 12:05:23 AM PDT by abner
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To: buccaneer81
Multiple Gasoline tanker trucks going off at 1215 in downtown sections would be one way. Chemical on a stadium would definately do it, but that would be going into areas that you've already mentioned.
10 posted on 09/23/2001 12:05:27 AM PDT by Centurion2000
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To: buccaneer81
Right now I am afraid that your imagination may be all too realistic. Especially the report about the cropduster manual found in some terrorist hideout freaks me out.
11 posted on 09/23/2001 12:06:55 AM PDT by Economist_MA
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To: abner
I think your immunity to smallpox only lasts about ten years after a vaccination. None of us have any immunity left.
12 posted on 09/23/2001 12:13:56 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker
I think your immunity to smallpox only lasts about ten years after a vaccination. None of us have any immunity left.

How comforting. . .

13 posted on 09/23/2001 12:15:15 AM PDT by abner
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To: abner
LOL. I'm sorry. Didn't mean to add to your worries. But I'm worried sick about this, too. IIRC, I saw somewhere that if smallpox got loose again, it could wipe out half of mankind. OBL is a madman and if he's got this capability, God help us all!
14 posted on 09/23/2001 12:19:43 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker
Not to mention the scar I have on my arm to this day from the shot!
15 posted on 09/23/2001 12:19:56 AM PDT by abner
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To: buccaneer81
Short of going nuclear, chemical or biological, I can't imagine what could be more cruel or shocking.

How's this:


16 posted on 09/23/2001 12:20:36 AM PDT by monkeyshine
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To: LibWhacker
Not to worry about my worries. LOL. This is our new reality, and everyone here has to face it head on to continue, and beat this you know what jerkface. We must learn how to defend ourselves, and not depend on police and government.

Whoops, I know I'm speaking to the choir.

17 posted on 09/23/2001 12:23:02 AM PDT by abner
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To: gonzo,lent,patent,Common Tator,nunya bidness,stingray,FITZ,
Grim Reaper Bump.
18 posted on 09/23/2001 12:27:57 AM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: abner
According to my wife (a doc) there's no profit in it for the drug companies, so she and I both think the gov't should launch into a crash program to produce several hundred million doses of smallpox vaccine, and pronto. The risk is too great not to!

She and her colleagues are talking about it a lot, and pressure on Uncle Sugar to do something about it is going up fast. With any luck, you and your son, and all the rest of us will be able to get vaccinated again in the not too distant future. Question is: Will it be too distant?

19 posted on 09/23/2001 12:29:57 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: Travis McGee
Obviously a man who would order so many killed in NY last week, is capable of anything at all. I hope they're closely watching the ones they let in who are still wandering all about enjoying their complete freedom to come and go whereever they wish. I know they keep catching some Arbas trying to come in from Mexico but I wonder if they're catching them all.
20 posted on 09/23/2001 12:35:47 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: knak
bump
21 posted on 09/23/2001 12:37:54 AM PDT by RaceBannon
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To: FITZ
If they release a bio attack, there will be a total breakdown of control as the vipers are squished.
22 posted on 09/23/2001 12:42:26 AM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: All
She and her colleagues are talking about it a lot, and pressure on Uncle Sugar to do something about it is going up fast.

And I might add that it wouldn't hurt for everyone to contact your favorite congresscritter and demand that Uncle Sam get the ball rolling on this (production of a sufficient number of doses of smallpox vaccine to innoculate the entire country -- not just the armed forces). We know what kind of mad dog we're dealing with, and time is running out . . . IMHO.

23 posted on 09/23/2001 12:51:33 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: knak
The United States has information that the group has already acquired small airplanes to spray bacteria causing smallpox

There are only two places in the world that had variola virus (smallpox) at the time the UN/WHO made the world safe for biological terrorism: the US and Russia. If they didn't get it from us, that leaves one possibility.

24 posted on 09/23/2001 12:52:19 AM PDT by Carry_Okie
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To: abner
I was vaccinated when I was a baby, but my son wasn't. Are they intending to wipe out the young?

The vaccine was only good for 10 years or so. No one is immune.

Thank the UN.

25 posted on 09/23/2001 12:54:10 AM PDT by Carry_Okie
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To: MHGinTN
. It is time for the citizenry to take more of an active roel in our own alertness and defense.

I agree. Just like we all admire the overwhelming courage it took for the passengers on the plane that was downed in Pennsylvania, to rush the terrorists after having probably witnessed passengers being assaulted , not knowing if a backpack on a terrorist had a bomb as told, whatever, all of us need to become alert and watchful. I sort of wished the President had called all of us to arms.....had reminded us that every corner of our country is vulnerable to terrorist sickness and that if we were ALL vigilant, the terrorists would have a tougher time.

26 posted on 09/23/2001 12:59:27 AM PDT by Republic
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To: all
I dont really worry about that Sarin gas everybody talks about that cult dispersed it in a subway in several locations it only killed 6 people--I think these terrorist would go for something far worse
27 posted on 09/23/2001 1:00:34 AM PDT by Husker24
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To: MHGinTN
I believe this threat is why certain small aircraft are not being allowed to take off from any airport. At least that is true here in San Diego. We have a small airport - Montgomery Field - and they stated that some smaller aircraft were not allowed to take off. There was something about having to file a flight plan too. This has grounded most flight schools.
28 posted on 09/23/2001 1:01:31 AM PDT by Sueann
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To: Husker24
Sarin is worse than you think. Check this link for more information. Probably more than you want to know.
29 posted on 09/23/2001 1:16:34 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: knak
also see http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,175951,00.html
30 posted on 09/23/2001 1:18:02 AM PDT by arielb
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To: knak
Ex-CIA Microbiologist Reveals Iraqi Plot to Attack US With Biowarfare by 2002

Get Ready for Twenty World Trade Center Bombings (A MUST READ interview from 1997)

31 posted on 09/23/2001 1:37:26 AM PDT by 2sheep
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To: knak
.....the group has already acquired small airplanes to spray bacteria causing smallpox or anthrax from the air....

Helicopters can be outfitted for cropdusting too. A small one can maneuver more effectively then a small plane and stay in one area more, like inside a stadium, and take off from about any where.

And what about those backpack units, like the guy who flew into the statue of liberty.

32 posted on 09/23/2001 3:08:47 AM PDT by ReformedBeckite
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To: ReformedBeckite
I was going to mention another way of air dispersal but I don't want to give the wrong side ideas.

Let's just say this--heads up routinely, folks. Anything looks likely able to cause mayhem, check it out and deal with it accordingly.

FREEPERS are good at showing they put their umph where their mouths are over and over again. Sounds like our nation needs our eyes, ears and alert actions as never before.

And, again, it's probably wise to already have at least a nodding acquaintance with some trusted enforcement officials who would have the authority and presence of mind to take action. No use calling up any official in any agency only to have it buried out of ignorance, too many calls or not knowing you nor trusting your observations. . . .though calling and taking that risk would probably be wiser than not calling.

And be wise as serpents and overtly harmless as doves. No need risking a FREEPER'S LIFE because you said the wrong thing in the wrong way at the wrong time in the wrong situation.

In some situations, it might be wise to say something neutral or agreeable sounding just to protect yourself until you can leave the scene, WRITE YOUR OBSERVATIONS UP and get them to someone trusted.

When you fininsh your observation--taking notes as fitting or recording in a walkman or a cell phone's memory--ISOLATE YOURSELF AND WRITE UP YOUR OBSERVATIONS AS QUICKLY AND ACCURATELY AS POSSIBLE. DATE AND TIME THEM.

WRITE BEHAVIORALLY--PERSON "A" IN XYZ CLOTHING WITH X IN THEIR HANDS RAN FROM __________ TO A LATE MODEL DARK BLUE CAR WITH LICENSE NUMBER__________ AND RACED OFF DOWN ___________ ROAD AT AN ABOVE AVERAGE SPEED GOING SOUTH ON THE NORTH/SOUTH STREET.

That is, describe actions first and foremost and completely. Only then can you go back and describe your feelings about what you were observing. Your feelings can be valuable input but the actions of the observed are far more important.

Your feelings probably come from or are connected to your intuition. Your intuition probably tunes in on many very subtle cues unconsciously and holistically rather than linear-logically. That can be very valuable--particularly if your intuition is often right.

If you think the issue is urgent, then turn the report in, fax it ASAP to your enforcement contact. If not, you might have fitting people who have good perspective on such things to review it with you first.

If you have a small camera, keep it with you. You might put in at least 400 ASA film if there's a likelihood of even significant darker scenes in your normal daily activities. If you always work etc. in bright daylight, a slower film would be good for the increased resolution.

If it's urgent, you can turn the film over. . . . but make some judgements here. If you turn the film over, you may never be compensated. . . . lose all control over it and the images etc. Remember Kennedy's death and the movie. . . . though he did get a pretty price for it eventually. If reasonably practical and not so urgent, you might consider taking it to a trusted quality photoshop and wait for it to be developed. Then get triplicates. Ask a trusted friend to file one in a safety deposit or other very secure location unknown to you. Tell 2-3 trusted unconneced, unrelated people who that person was with the photos.

If you have a digital camera, make several backup files on CD-ROM MEDIA even if you have to go to a friends to use their CD burner. Stash a copy safely yourself and 2-3 with trusted people. Probably officials would like the original digital file but copies are really about as good. On film photos, they will insist on the original negatives. You can still put a (C) notice on the edge or corner of the best shots with a very small drafting ink pen with drafting black ink available at all office supplies. (C) 2001 and your name or identifier would do.

For FREEPERS who are normally housebound but with ample window space to watch goings on in popular public places, you might keep a journal of the daily routines. If something radically or significantly out of ordinary occurs, you'll have a record and know better when to call the officials and how fast.

If middle eastern looking men seemed to be manically driving a vehicle into a key building or large group of people, an urgent call might be in order. Having a phone with a panic button to the trusted official might be in order. If such people put parcels down in a crowded market place and seemingly make haste to leave, urgent action might also be in order. But a record of the routine days for the area can give you a baseline to make those judgments better against.

Perhaps others hereon can critique the above and add their own ideas/suggestions.

34 posted on 09/23/2001 5:06:49 AM PDT by Quix
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To: buccaneer81
nuclear, chemical or biological

Those are enough, hon. More cruel and shocking. Let's stop these b*stards!

35 posted on 09/23/2001 5:20:55 AM PDT by BunnySlippers
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To: knak
Time magazine reported on Saturday that investigators had found a crop-dusting manual during a search for those responsible for the attacks on New York and Washington, triggering concern that crop-dusting planes might be used for chemical or biological assaults.

Just stepped outside for the paper and heard the familiar whine of a crop-duster straining over row crops. If Time's report is accurate, I'd sure like to see it mentioned by more news outlets.

36 posted on 09/23/2001 5:24:03 AM PDT by Quilla
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To: knak
I'm having some trouble believeing this is anything more than grandstanding by some anonymous bureaucrat.

The terrorists would have given us their BEST and STRONGEST attack first, when it would have the most impact. Thats just what they did. Not now when the chances of pulling it off are greatly diminished.

37 posted on 09/23/2001 6:08:36 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle
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To: knak
I am skeptical; they didn't know diddly about the first one. How will they know about the second one?

Having said that, these scenarios are plausible. Do you want advanced warning on when it will happen? Watch the stock of 7-11. When there is massive short selling, that means the terrorist organizations know that shortly there will be no one left to run the register.

38 posted on 09/23/2001 6:14:35 AM PDT by jammer
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To: knak
bttt
39 posted on 09/23/2001 6:17:19 AM PDT by Don Myers
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To: knak
These rumors will be persistent from now on. Wasn't yesterday also supposed to be a high threat day?
40 posted on 09/23/2001 6:18:05 AM PDT by Don Myers
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To: FITZ
Why is that border still open? We hve "GOT to round these people up before the end of the week. I'm usually not in favor of torture but in this case.......... If we start skinning some KEY individuals they may talk, otherwise I don't think they would ever say a word to give up their cohorts!
41 posted on 09/23/2001 6:18:27 AM PDT by poweqi
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To: MHGinTN
"It is time for the citizenry to take more of an active roel in our own alertness and defense. "

What do you envision?

42 posted on 09/23/2001 6:19:08 AM PDT by Don Myers
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To: LibWhacker
The government has ordered an additional 40 million doses of smallpox vaccine but it won't be available for a couple of years.
43 posted on 09/23/2001 6:19:38 AM PDT by Movemout
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To: Travis McGee
"If they release a bio attack, there will be a total breakdown of control as the vipers are squished."

I know what you are talking about. And it wouldn't be pretty. But I don't know that the people responsible would be affected.

44 posted on 09/23/2001 6:21:23 AM PDT by Don Myers
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To: Quix
If middle eastern looking men seemed to be manically driving a vehicle into a key building or large group of people, an urgent call might be in order

Too bad action couldn't be made before this point. It's not going to do the people about to be killed much good.

45 posted on 09/23/2001 6:22:29 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: LibWhacker
Problem is, according to experts interviewed recently, the ability to use gene splicing to alter the small pox virus could quickly nullify any vaccines "protection".
46 posted on 09/23/2001 6:22:46 AM PDT by codder too
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To: Movemout
A couple of years? we'll all be dead! Only 40 million? Is'nt there 230 million of us? I wonder WHO is going to get the vaccination. Just gunna save the big boys?
47 posted on 09/23/2001 6:23:18 AM PDT by poweqi
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To: buccaneer81
Just had a horrible thought! Ebola virus. if you have not read "The Hot Zone" by Richard Preston, you should. It will certainly make you think and wonder but mostly give you the scare of your life! After reading this thread I may have to visit my Dr. Monday for a Prozac prescription. I am kidding, of course
48 posted on 09/23/2001 6:27:16 AM PDT by Linda
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To: poweqi
Why is that border still open?

Have you ever seen the border? Miles and miles of unfenced areas and where there are fences there are holes cut in them. They have increased checks on the bridges but there's no INS agents standing out there in the desert or everywhere along the Rio Grande. Apparently the two Arabs caught here last week were caught by Mexican officials when they noticed they were trying to use the illegal Mexicans' route into the US instead of through customs where agents can check them.

49 posted on 09/23/2001 6:29:01 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: LibWhacker
>According to my wife (a doc) there's no profit in it for the drug companies,

If that is what the drug companies think, then they are the stupidest, most inept businessmen and women on the planet. I would give 1/2 a year's salary to get my child vaccinated, just now...

50 posted on 09/23/2001 6:29:03 AM PDT by Darnright
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