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White House Denies Connection with Salem bin Laden
Washington Post ^ | Sept 25, 2001 | Staff

Posted on 09/26/2001 3:54:42 PM PDT by Inspector Harry Callahan

Edited on 09/03/2002 4:49:20 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

The White House is vehemently denying recent reports by various foreign news outlets that Saudi construction mogul Salem bin Laden, the eldest brother of Osama bin Laden, was in the late 1970s an early investor -- to the tune of $50,000 -- in then-oilman George W. Bush's Arbusto Energy Co.......... (snip) Source: scroll down for it.


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Anybody got more info on this?
1 posted on 09/26/2001 3:54:42 PM PDT by Inspector Harry Callahan
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Author: Lloyd Grove with Barbara E. Martinez
2 posted on 09/26/2001 3:58:47 PM PDT by Inspector Harry Callahan
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To: Inspector Harry Callahan
I think they're referring to an article that appeared in the UK Daily Mail yesterday.

Bin Laden's family link to Bush
by PETER ALLEN, Daily Mail
http://www.femail.co.uk/pages/news/article.html?in_article_id=74355&in_page_id=1263

In summer 1971, Osama and Salem Bin Laden enjoyed a holiday in Sweden with some of their 55 brothers and sisters.

Yet within a few years, the two teenagers' lives had taken stunningly different turns.

As the world knows to its cost, Osama embraced Islamic fundamentalism and 30 years later was named the world's most wanted man. He is prime suspect in the murder of nearly 7,000 in the worst ever terrorist atrocities in the U.S. earlier this month.

Incredibly, Salem went on to become a business partner of the man who is leading the hunt for his brother. In the 1970s, he and George W Bush were founders of the Arbusto Energy oil company in Mr Bush's home state of Texas.

Photos reveal the brothers on family holiday to the Swedish town of Falun, 150 miles north-west of Stockholm, when Osama was 14 and Salem around 19.

The brothers had recently inherited a fortune from their construction magnate father, Mohammed. He left millions to each of his 57 children by 12 wives after dying in a plane crash in 1968.

Osama and Salem first visited Falun in 1970, arriving in a blue Rolls-Royce flown to Copenhagen by private jet. They liked the town so much they returned with other family members a year later.

Learning that the Bin Ladens, originally from Saudi Arabia, were staying at the Astoria Hotel, a local photographer asked the unusual visitors to pose.

Astoria owner Christina Akerblad said last night: 'They were beautiful boys, so elegantly dressed. Everybody loved them.

'Osama played with my two boys, Anders and Gerk.

'What's happened since is absolutely terrible. The first time I realised Osama had turned into a terrorist was when I saw his photograph in a magazine article about the bombing. He and his brother were such nice boys.'

At that time the brothers both delighted in their enormous wealth. Salem - wearing a polo neck and slacks as he crouches three places from Osama, in jeans and a skinny rib jumper - put a large part of his money into business ventures, including Arbusto Energy.

Mr Bush was not long out of Harvard Business School when he started the company in 1978.

Salem watched it grow into a hugely successful business until his death in a microlight plane crash in Texas in 1983.

As he built his own business empire, Salem Bin Laden had an intriguing relationship with the president-to-be.

In 1978, he appointed James Bath, a close friend of Mr Bush who served with him in the Air National Guard, as his representative in Houston, Texas.

It was in that year that Mr Bath invested $50,000 (about £34,000) in Mr Bush's company, Arbusto. It was never revealed whether he was investing his own money or somebody else's.

There was even speculation that the money might have been from Salem. In the same year, Mr Bath bought Houston Gulf Airport on behalf of the Saudi Arabian multimillionaire. Three years ago, Mr Bush said the $50,000 investment in Arbusto was the only financial dealing he had with Mr Bath.

Last night a White House spokesman was unavailable for comment.

Before his death, Salem was married to Briton Caroline Carey, now 35.

She has never spoken about her brother-in-law Osama, who was disowned by the rest of his family in 1991 when he was expelled from Saudi Arabia for his anti-government activities.

Now living in luxury in a Cairo villa, she has married twice into the Bin Laden family - first to Salem, and now to a younger brother, Khaled. She has a daughter by each brother.

Three years ago a family friend said: 'She first met Salem when she was just a child - no more than five years old.

'He was a friend of the family but at that stage no one would have dreamed that they would end up marrying.

'When they met again as adults, Caroline was 20 and Salem twice her age.

'Salem was the head of the Bin Laden family as the oldest of all the brothers and sisters.

'He was a man with a powerful presence.'

They married and, after his death, Caroline decided to bring up her daughter in Saudi Arabia.

'Caroline was a widow for nearly ten years before deciding to marry Khaled,' said the friend. 'He is one of the younger brothers and very quiet and loving.

'She can never speak publicly about her marriage, or anything else for that matter, or she would be cut off from the family.'

Caroline's father, a retired psychology lecturer from Hampstead, said: 'My daughter is very happy with Khaled. She decided to stay on in Saudi Arabia because she found her family there to be so loving and supportive.'

Yesterday FBI agents swooped on a Boston suburb where around 20 of the wealthy relatives of Bin Laden live. They questioned them at a condominium complex in Charlestown. Agents even began visiting nightclubs to collect credit cards of younger members of the family.

Bin Laden's younger brother Mohammed, who is said to have moved back to Saudi Arabia with his wife and children several years ago, owns a ten-bedroom mansion in nearby Wayland.

Another younger brother, Abdullah, is a 1994 graduate of Harvard Law School. The family has given it £2million in endowments to research Islamic law.

Most of Bin Laden's family have in the past strongly denounced the 44-year-old fugitive, now living in Afghanistan.

The FBI in Boston has long been aware of his extended family and began monitoring their activities after the 1998 terrorist bombings of U.S. embassies in Africa.

The Bin Ladens still run one of the biggest construction companies in the world.

3 posted on 09/26/2001 4:01:06 PM PDT by shockjock
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To: Inspector Harry Callahan
Looks like the pressholes are starting to feel spunky again. What a bunch of Clymers.....
4 posted on 09/26/2001 4:02:03 PM PDT by eureka!
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To: shockjock
Thanks for the article, reading it now.
5 posted on 09/26/2001 4:04:22 PM PDT by Inspector Harry Callahan
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To: Inspector Harry Callahan
so what's the big deal, his brother is not a terrorist.
6 posted on 09/26/2001 4:05:46 PM PDT by KQQL
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To: Inspector Harry Callahan
Was Salem Bin Laden a known terrorist at the time?
7 posted on 09/26/2001 4:06:11 PM PDT by KayEyeDoubleDee
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To: Inspector Harry Callahan
...anybody got more info on this?...

Hoo yeah.

In 1989, Osama Bin Laden's second cousin's orthodontist went to a

Texas Rangers game in Dallas!!

Connect the dots, eh Harry?

8 posted on 09/26/2001 4:06:31 PM PDT by Byron_the_Aussie
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To: Inspector Harry Callahan
Is it possible a millionaire invested in the company 30 years ago before he became a terrorist? Why not?
9 posted on 09/26/2001 4:07:24 PM PDT by A CA Guy
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee
Was Salem Bin Laden a known terrorist at the time?

I don't think anybody's referred to Salem as a terrorist. Known or otherwise. Read the article in post #3.

10 posted on 09/26/2001 4:07:47 PM PDT by Inspector Harry Callahan
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To: shockjock
In the late 70s? LMAO!!!

It could have been the late 90s or yesterday and wouldn't matter a damn. Anyone realize that his brother and other relatives are STILL LIVING IN THE USA???

But, OH MY! Lookee here! A Salem bin Laden invested in a Bush company even before G Bush Sr. was Pres. There must be some evil there to dig up.

11 posted on 09/26/2001 4:07:47 PM PDT by Dogbert41
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To: Inspector Harry Callahan
Even if that were true (and I don't believe the Washington Post for a second), Usama bin Laden was exiled from his family and country years ago. He has 50 brothers. Not all of them are criminals. In fact, I have been told that only 4 of his brothers follow Usama bin Laden.
12 posted on 09/26/2001 4:07:54 PM PDT by SunStar
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To: KQQL
so what's the big deal, his brother is not a terrorist

Even so, such a connection is definitely newsworthy. Let's see how the press handles it from this point.

13 posted on 09/26/2001 4:09:18 PM PDT by MississippiMan
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To: MississippiMan
Why would the White House "vehemently deny" a connection that can be documented easily? Salem is (supposedly) not a terrorist and disowned his brother a long time before any of this ever came about. So why the denial?

Callahan

14 posted on 09/26/2001 4:12:48 PM PDT by Inspector Harry Callahan
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To: Inspector Harry Callahan
For goodness sakes, so what. On Fox Neil Cavuto talk the other morning about the U.S. cutting off funds of "The Bin Laden Group", the Saudi family business and that the Saudis agreed to it in case some of the many family members might be giving money to Osama. He also said that GE also had ties to "The Bin Laden Group" along with many other large American corporations.
15 posted on 09/26/2001 4:12:51 PM PDT by snippy_about_it
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To: Inspector Harry Callahan
White House Denies Connection with Salem bin Laden

It doesn't matter whether they (the Bushes) were connected with Salem back then or not. As far as I've heard, Salem Bin Laden is not a terrorist. To assume Salem is guilty because his brother is guilty is called "corruption of blood", which has been repudiated in free countries like America.

To further assume that this somehow incriminates the Bushes is another bogus thing called "guilt by association".

I'll await more information before jumping to any conclusions...

16 posted on 09/26/2001 4:14:50 PM PDT by sargon
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To: sargon
It doesn't matter whether they (the Bushes) were connected with Salem back then or not.

Provided that Salem was not a terrorist (which he supposedly was NOT) then you have a point, it doesn't matter. What matters in this story is the White House's "vehement" denial. Why are they denying this?

17 posted on 09/26/2001 4:17:34 PM PDT by Inspector Harry Callahan
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To: Inspector Harry Callahan
So why the denial?

Because it isn't true? Even the Mail admits that it was Bath who invested the money, not Salem bin Laden, and that the notion that it was really bin Laden's money was "speculation."

18 posted on 09/26/2001 4:18:07 PM PDT by BurkeanCyclist
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To: BurkeanCyclist
Okay, I see your point. It will be interesting to see where this leads.
19 posted on 09/26/2001 4:20:00 PM PDT by Inspector Harry Callahan
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To: Inspector Harry Callahan
Note that "vehemently" is the presstitute's word, not a WH quote. The Clymers just want to raise suspicion--plant another seed. The true facts are irrelevant. We're going to see more. I'd bet if you really want to see some intellectually bankrupt W haters run with this nonstory, take a little e-stroll over to Democrat(sic)Underground. Those nutcases will have a ball with this one....
20 posted on 09/26/2001 4:26:21 PM PDT by eureka!
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To: snippy_about_it
Not to mention that Harvard has a few buildings with the name "Bin Laden" attached to them.
21 posted on 09/26/2001 4:26:23 PM PDT by TomB
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To: BurkeanCyclist
Because it isn't true? Even the Mail admits that it was Bath who invested the money, not Salem bin Laden, and that the notion that it was really bin Laden's money was "speculation."

Thats what makes this story so irresponsible. Its like the liberals blaming Bush 1 for the S&L crisis because his son Neil was on the board of some podunk bank.

22 posted on 09/26/2001 4:31:19 PM PDT by VA Advogado
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To: Inspector Harry Callahan, KQQL, KayEyeDoubleDee
.... So what, Osama's brother isn't an international terrorist! So what, he's got 55 brothers ... only 4 of them go with Osama. ...

I wish a few democrats can come around and point out the blatant hypocrisy I'm seeing in these responses. Its this kind of information and WH responses that would have these same ones screaming for a congressional investigation during the Clinton administration.

23 posted on 09/26/2001 4:42:39 PM PDT by RoarNLion
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To: RoarNLion
Come up with one comparable example, please
24 posted on 09/26/2001 4:47:38 PM PDT by KayEyeDoubleDee
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To: RoarNLion
You stupid ditze what the hell do you want to invistigate? There is no there there. A businessman invests in a business what a bummer.Wow it was only thirty years ago.You democrats are too stupid to get out of the rain.
25 posted on 09/26/2001 4:55:57 PM PDT by cksharks
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To: cksharks
Personal attacks get threads pulled. Why must you engage in them?
26 posted on 09/26/2001 5:03:15 PM PDT by Inspector Harry Callahan
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To: Byron_the_Aussie
LOL. Great post.
27 posted on 09/26/2001 5:17:29 PM PDT by zip
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To: RoarNLion
Why do your friends have to come over? You do a very good job by yourself. You camped out here a long time just to throw in one dud bomb. sad
28 posted on 09/26/2001 5:22:42 PM PDT by zip
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To: Inspector Harry Callahan
Just keep "lovin' up the dims and liberals and some day they might let you join them.
29 posted on 09/26/2001 5:24:33 PM PDT by zip
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To: Inspector Harry Callahan
One quick question--Why don't you ever comment on news that is less than 10 years old. I have watched post ancient stories over and over. Are you afraid newer ones could be checked out and disproved?
30 posted on 09/26/2001 5:27:23 PM PDT by zip
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To: shockjock
I smell a Bin Clinton,Bin Gore and Bin Jackson in this story. Clinton just gave an interview to a Brit tabloid telling how he tried to get Bin Laden.
32 posted on 09/26/2001 5:37:39 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: VA Advogado
Silverado was not a podunk bank.
33 posted on 09/26/2001 5:41:15 PM PDT by independentmind
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To: MississippiMan
"Even so, such a connection is definitely newsworthy. "

How so?

34 posted on 09/26/2001 5:41:54 PM PDT by Theresa
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Feds investigate entrepreneur allegedly tied to Saudis
JERRY URBAN; Staff
The Houston Chronicle; Section A; Pg. 21
June 4, 1992, Thursday, 2 STAR Edition


Federal authorities are investigating the activities of a Houston businessman -- a past investor in companies controlled by a son of President Bush -- who has been accused of illegally representing Saudi interests in the United States.


Bush said that to his knowledge, Bath's investment was from personal funds, and no Saudi money was invested in Arbusto.
The Financial Crimes Enforcement Network -- known as FinCEN -- and the FBI are reviewing accusations that entrepreneur James R. Bath guided money to Houston from Saudi investors who wanted to influence U.S. policy under the Reagan and Bush administrations, sources close to the investigations say.

FinCEN, a division of the U.S. Department of Treasury, investigates money laundering. Special agents and analysts from various law enforcement agencies, including the Internal Revenue Service and the U.S. Customs Service, are assigned to work with the FinCEN staff.

The federal review stems in part from court documents obtained through litigation by Bill White, a former real estate business associate of Bath.

White contends the documents indicate that the Saudis were using Bath and their huge financial resources to influence U.S. policy.

Such representation by Bath would require that he be registered as a foreign agent with the U.S. Department of Justice.

In general, people required by law to be registered are those who represent a foreign entity seeking to influence governmental action or policy.

An Annapolis graduate and former Navy fighter pilot, White, 46, claims that Bath and the judicial system, under the veil of national security, have blackballed him professionally and financially because he has refused to keep quiet about what he regards as a conspiracy to secretly funnel Saudi dollars to the United States.

White became entangled in a series of lawsuits and countersuits with Bath, who for some six years has prevailed in the courts. White says the legal action has financially devasted him and Venturcorp Inc., the real estate development company in which he and Bath were partners.

In sworn depositions, Bath said he represented four prominent Saudis as a trustee and that he would use his name on their investments. In return, he said, he would receive a 5 percent interest in their deals.

Tax documents and personal financial records show that Bath personally had a 5 percent interest in Arbusto '79 Ltd., and Arbusto '80 Ltd., limited partnerships controlled by George W. Bush, President Bush's eldest son. Arbusto means bush in Spanish.

Bath invested $ 50,000 in the limited partnerships, according to the documents. There is no available evidence to show whether the money came from Saudi interests.

George W. Bush's company, Bush Exploration Co., general partner in the limited partnerships, went through several mergers, eventually evolving into Harken Energy Corp., a suburban Dallas-based company.

Bush, known informally as George Jr., is a shareholder and director of Harken, which has been granted lucrative offshore drilling rights off the coast of Bahrain in the Persian Gulf. One of the top shareholders of Harken, a public company, is Saudi businessman Abdullah Taha Bakhsh.

Bush said that to his knowledge, Bath's investment was from personal funds, and no Saudi money was invested in Arbusto.

Bath, 55, a former U.S. Air Force pilot, declined to comment for the record. Spokesmen for FinCEN and the FBI also declined to comment.

According to a 1976 trust agreement, drawn shortly after Bush was appointed director of the Central Intelligence Agency, Saudi Sheik Salem M. Binladen appointed Bath as his business representative in Houston. Binladen, along with his brothers, owns Binladen Brothers Construction, one of the largest construction companies in the Middle East.

According to White, Bath told him that he had assisted the CIA in a liaison role with Saudi Arabia since 1976. Bath has previously denied having worked for the CIA.

In a sworn deposition, Bath said he was the sole director of Skyway Aircraft Leasing Ltd., a company that a court document shows is owned by Khaled bin Mahfouz. Bin Mahfouz had been a major shareholder in the Bank of Credit and Commerce International, a banking empire that has been accused of money laundering and of using Mideast oil money to seek ties to political leaders in several countries. Mahfouz and his family own the National Commercial Bank of Saudi Arabia.

In 1990, Bath bought the Express Auto Park garage at Hobby Airport for $ 8.4 million, which included a $ 1.4 million loan provided by Mahfouz, according to transaction documents. Bath received a 5 percent interest in the companies that own and operate Houston Gulf Airport after purchasing it on behalf of Binladen in 1977. After Binladen died in 1988, his interests in the airport were taken over by Mahfouz, according to court documents.

Photo: Bill White, a real estate developer, balances a stack of depositions which he plans to turn over to federal authorities. The documents suggest a Houston businessman has been illegally representing the Saudis in the United States; Larry Reese/Chronicle


36 posted on 09/26/2001 5:45:48 PM PDT by Inspector Harry Callahan
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To: Wallaby
Bump.
37 posted on 09/26/2001 5:46:50 PM PDT by Inspector Harry Callahan
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To: Inspector Harry Callahan
they are denying it because its not true. I would be more inclined to see Gore as having terrorist ties, or the Clintons. And what about Jesse getting a personal invitation from the Taliban?
38 posted on 09/26/2001 5:47:59 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: Inspector Harry Callahan
Pathetic.
39 posted on 09/26/2001 5:48:21 PM PDT by Registered
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To: Inspector Harry Callahan
Callahan.

The article is from The Spotlight. We're not talking about the temple of sweet reason, now, are we?

More like "Arbeit Macht Frei", if you ask me.

Meanwhile, speaking of the SS, anyone want to take me up on an Over and Under wager against how many days before The Guardian makes an ironclad connection between the SS, Prescott Bush, the Bin Laden Family, and Khun Sa, the Opium Warlord?

You heard it here first.

Be Seeing You,

Chris

40 posted on 09/26/2001 5:49:06 PM PDT by section9
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To: Registered
Pathetic? I'm trying to run down some info on Bath. Got any?
41 posted on 09/26/2001 5:49:39 PM PDT by Inspector Harry Callahan
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To: dalebert
Poor Hillary, she is trying so hard to change the story-line here. LOL, this is too funny and has Clinton written all over it.
42 posted on 09/26/2001 5:50:37 PM PDT by Laverne
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To: section9
That is not from the Spotlight. It's from the Intelligence Newsletter, best I can tell. Thanks.
43 posted on 09/26/2001 5:51:04 PM PDT by Inspector Harry Callahan
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To: Laverne
I have a feeling this is a rerun of Gore election attack on Bush. Can just anyone get CIA records?
44 posted on 09/26/2001 5:53:51 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: Inspector Harry Callahan
It doesn't surprise me you've resorted to wallowing in Washington Post gossip columns for your continuous attacks on the president, but just a tiny bit of research would have netted you information confirming bin Laden's father as an ardent supporter of the US who disowned his lunatic son decades ago.

FYI: Guess what? Counter to the info put out by yourself and the other Birchers...the CIA is not the villian. Everytime you commie dupes trash the CIA you're making sure there will be plenty of WTCs.

45 posted on 09/26/2001 5:57:01 PM PDT by Deb
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To: Deb
Hi Deb. So kind of you to stop by and share your deep insight.

Come back now, ya hear!

46 posted on 09/26/2001 5:59:30 PM PDT by Inspector Harry Callahan
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Hey, we could do this forever. Most of the "relief organizations" tied to the terrorists have leftist connections in the US. Should be an interesting investigation. Lots of shredding going on...

In her speech, "Mrs. Clinton vowed to pursue fairness and justice in the issue of secret evidence and the Anti-Terrorism Act," the AMA Web site noted.

At the Boston event, the former first lady accepted a $1,000 contribution from Abdurahman Alamoudi, an official with the American Muslim Council who once vowed to eliminate Israel and had previously boasted, "We are the ones who went to the (Clinton) White House and defended what is called Hamas."

When Mrs. Clinton's campaign reported Alamoudi's American Muslim Council donation to the F.E.C., the AMC was camouflaged as the "American Museum Council." link

48 posted on 09/26/2001 6:03:44 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: shockjock
Gossip passing as news and obviously incorrect facts. Salem has been dead since 1983...18 years, but he was married to Caroline who is now 35 who he met when she was 20.
50 posted on 09/26/2001 6:08:10 PM PDT by not-an-ostrich
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