Posted on 09/28/2001 12:50:56 AM PDT by NorthernRight
The Sanitation Of Islam
Where Was The "Normal" Voice Of Islam?
September 25, 2001
The developing military coalition does not want to make the impending war, a war between the East and the West, and between Islam and Judeo-Christianity. It does not want to polarize the enemy into forming a billion person coalition of its own. But it’s too late; Pandora’s box has been opened. The world of fundamentalist Islam has declared war on everything that is represented by the West — including Western based religions and our modern culture.
Since the terrorist attack, we have all been inundated with the "sanitation of Islam" from every corner of the world. We have seen and heard no shortage of world Islamic leaders claim that their’s is a religion of great tolerance, peace and love. And they are deeply wounded by the murder and destruction. But if their hearts are all so broken, and if Islam is against killing and violence, then where have their voices been for the past 30 years and more?
This past Sunday, September 23, 2001, the religions of the world came together at Yankee Stadium for a gigantic prayer and memorial service. It was one of the most touching events I have ever witnessed. Religious, political and entertainment notables spoke, prayed and performed. It truly represented the best in mankind. But something was missing — the truth.
I heard a heartwarming sermon from the Moslems, and I will take it at the religious leader’s word, that what he had to say was what he believed about harmony, respect and love for all, even those of different faiths. So, I have to ask myself: How come these peace loving people have never before come forward to condemn murder and violence through racism, sexism and religious nationalism carried out in the name of Islam?
I have recently heard no shortage of Moslems who have compared the demonization of Islam to the fact that no one condemned Timothy McVey’s outrage in Oklahoma as a Christian act of terrorism, and the slaughter of Moslems at prayer at the Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem, as an act of Jewish terrorism?
They, within the Moslem world, who compare the so-called double standard are wrong. American Christian fundamentalists with a bent towards violence are constantly demonized in the US press, on radio, on television and in Hollywood productions. And as for Baruch Goldstein at the Temple Mount in Jerusalem, Israel, and outraged Jews all over the world could not have been more saddened and outraged by his attack against humanity. And the Jewish anger against Goldstein was not kept a secret. He, and what he did was publicly condemned by the entire Jewish world. Without equivocation.
But where have all of these "saddened" Moslems been hiding during the non stop terror attacks that has killed many hundreds of innocent people in Israel? I don’t recall ever hearing their outcry against this perversion of Islam that was responsible for the slaughter of Jewish children in schools, Israeli athletes at the Olympics, Jews and others at airports, on busses, in markets, at discotheques, pizza parlors and around the world in countries that have nothing whatsoever to do with Judaism and Israel; such as the bombing of a Jewish owned delicatessen in Paris, and at the Jewish community center in Argentina.
Where was even the slightest criticism from the Arab and Moslem community at the visual and public outburst of joy and celebration in the streets of the West Bank, Lebanon and other Middle Eastern countries, while grieving Jews collected the human body parts of those blown apart by Islamic Arab fundamentalist suicide bombers? Instead of condemnation, the Arabic Moslem children were given candy, in order to enjoy the sweetness of the murder carried out in the name of Allah. Do you remember ever hearing any condemnation from anyone in the Arab and Moslem world at this vulgar spectacle?
I guess by now, it was not unusual for Arab Moslems to be seen dancing in the streets in celebration of the murder of Jews. But it's an entirely different thing when these same Arab Moslems danced in the streets at the murder of people in New York City, Washington DC and on those four crashed passenger planes.
How can a religion that forbids women from enjoying life as equal human beings, be considered to be as loving as the current spokes-people for Islam claim? How can a religion that orders women to be stoned to death for infidelity, or even less; and for robbers of a loaf of bread to have a limb amputated as retribution in the name of justice, claim to be anything but barbaric?
Even the word Jihad all of a sudden no longer means holy war — at least to the Moslem spin doctors. But it’s quite remarkable how every nation in Islam, especially the countries of the Middle East have shouted Jihad against the Jews and the imperialist Americans for as long as I can remember. Even Yasser Arafat, up until September 11, 2001, spoke of Jihad. What happened?
And then there is the cry from the Arab world, that they should not be singled out for this extreme act of terrorism. They don’t want to be profiled at airports and at other areas where large gatherings occur.
Who was on those airplanes that changed the world, and caused so much grief? Were they not Arab Moslems? Who have been highjacking airplanes, killing innocent people and blowing up buildings since the 60's? Who operates terrorist training camps in the Middle East, North Africa and Centra Asia?
Forgive me for telling it like it is. But the answer to all of the above is crystal clear. Now, let me get back to the Arabs who don’t want to be profiled or treated differently because of recent events. Where has their voice been in condemnation of those Arabs, whom for so long terrorized the world? Where has the Moslem voice been hiding, while people have routinely been massacred in the name of Allah and the Koran?
The Arabs and the Moslems who are now so vocal, were silent until today, only because it didn’t matter when the venom of their culture and religious hatred restricted their actions to the murder and terror, primarily of Jews in the Middle East. It didn’t touch them then. But now it does. So, all of a sudden, there is outrage and condemnation for terrorism from the once silent and invisible Arab and Moslem communities. But it is not moral outrage that has forced the Arab and Moslem communities to explain and apologize for what has just happened — it is fear of retribution.
I have quite a few Arab friends and associates who I care a great deal about. And my heart does break for them, because they are no more guilty of this obscenity than I am. And they should neither be profiled nor feared. Nothing they could have said or done would have changed anything. But that is not true of their leadership.
The leaders of their communities could have said plenty before this past horror. Yet, instead of publicly standing up for decency, they chose silence. And now, there is a price to pay. We can only hope, that from this outrage and impending war, the Arab and Moslem world will finally get the message; that what is done in their name, religion and culture will affect them with grave consequences.
I will add to what President George W Bush had to say about nations that are not with the United States in this epic battle against terrorism. If the "normal" Arab and Moslem world will not condemn those within their own culture and community, who carry on acts of racial violence and hatred towards all people; including Jews and Israelis, then we must assume that they are with the perpetrators.
After September 11, 2001, there is no longer any room for silence or fence sitting.
You can tell us the lies over, and over. They have been exposed. You are now nothing more than a "spin doctor."
The ugly truth has been revealed about Islam, and none of your rhetoric, denials, obsfucations, or side-steps will change that.
Do you deny that you would like to see Islam the official religion of the USA and the world?
I recall something vaguely similar, and as much as I despised Khomeini for the utter outlawry and apostasy of violating the sanctity of an embassy, I thought it a rather pathetic attack on him. I was even more amazed that some people are so utterly ignorant of Islam that they thought there could be substance to it.
So go on...what did you recall that was "vaguely similar?" There must be some basis. You are the religious scholar. Show me the basis, or the absence thereof. I want to know about EVERY comment in the Qur'an (and related texts) about bestiality.
Did Khomeini write about this subject, or did he not? If he DID, it wouldn't be a pathetic attack on him, now would it? Do you really know the answer, or are you simply hell bent on repelling every criticism of the actual precepts of this religion?
I COULDN'T HAVE SAID IT BETTER MYSELF!!!
Even the LibFems I know are disgusted by the Taliban's treatment of women, and would certainly feel no remorse at the regime's destruction.
Not too outraged. Do a search on Baruch Goldstein and you will turn up dozens of websites that hail him as a hero and a rightous holy person for his act of slaughtering Muslims at prayer.
How can a religion that forbids women from enjoying life as equal human beings, be considered to be as loving...
You haven't talked to the Baptists recently, have you? As far as they are conerned women are equal...except if they want to be Pastors or run the household or don't want to submit to their husbands.
[5.33] The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His apostle and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement...
Not very big on the Geneva Convention, are they?
"... The New York Times can rest assured that every last American has now heard the news that not all Muslims are terrorists. That's not the point. Not all Muslims may be terrorists, but all terrorists are Muslims -- at least all terrorists capable of assembling a murderous plot against America that leaves 7,000 people dead in under two hours.
How are we to distinguish the peaceful Muslims from the fanatical, homicidal Muslims about to murder thousands of our fellow citizens? Are the good Muslims the ones who live quiet lives, pray a lot and obey the law? So did the architects of Bloody Tuesday's mass murder. Are the peaceful Muslims the ones who loudly proclaim their hatred of Osama Bin Laden? Mohammed Atta did that, too...."
"Have you allowed all the women to live?" he asked them.
"They were the ones who followed Balaam's advice and were the means of turning the Israelites away from the LORD in what happened at Peor, so that a plague struck the LORD's people.
Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man,
but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man." - Numbers 31: 15-18
Ditto.
Good statement. We are hearing so many wonderful words right now from a lot of areas but they are just words. Truth is missing. Their beliefs are not matching up with their words.
"Ditto."
You're about 3,000 years behind the curve in criticizing Jews for their treatment of heathens. On the other hand, given what the Koran teaches and the fact that its adherents still follow its teachings to the letter today, perhaps you might wish to reconsider your support of Islam.
"No, I think I'll keep defending it against people trying to condemn an entire religion for the actions of a few."
Given that same logic, I suppose we shouldn't judge Marxism too harshly based on the actions of a few.
either...
1) It is too weak to be relevant, and will soon be overwhelmed by the orthodox (radicals)
OR
2) The moderates are quietly in sympathy with the radicals
Supported by many!
those Muslims who do not stand up for the USA will have stated they stand against the USA in time of war.
Enemies are to be destroyed utterly.
Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown
Yes, and these websites are all either Kahanist, or JDL related. Hardly part of the mainstream Jewish establishment. Kahanists are considered to be extremists and are banned in Israel. They are considered a suspect organization in America, and under constant surveillance, and it's members investigated.
You haven't talked to the Baptists recently, have you? As far as they are conerned women are equal...except if they want to be Pastors or run the household or don't want to submit to their husbands.
My! Such hardships! But Baptists don't mistreat, beat, maim or kill their women as part of the normal process of their faith.
A documented example of this occured at the mosque in Toledo, Ohio. Reporters were told by the Muslim spokespeople that they were a peace-loving people wishing no harm to anyone. However, one of the reporters decided to sit in at the Friday service at the Toledo mosque. What he heard was hair-raising and full of hatred, mainly toward Jews. The Imam gave the most anti-Semitic tirad the reporter had ever heard. This has been more fully described previously here on FR.
I see three. Three major enemies, countries aimed at our throats and our minds, and plans that require our destruction.
So who are these three enemies? Just trying to get that clue.
While behind me a clean up crew were pulling out the bodies of some young dead British service men.
Or the singing of
While Irish eyes are smiling
British soldiers are dying
Are these people any different to those Palestine who whooped and cheered over every attack against Israel.
The Israeli Palestinian conflict has been going on know for over 50 years with no end in site, whole generations have been raised into what amounts to a war zone, like those Irish kids who used to stone me when out on patrol they no nothing else.
Yes many Muslims kept quite at the attacks against Israel carried out by the Palestine, but many kept quite when Israel attacked Palestine, not much support there either.
I heard tell that members of NORIAD used to go round bars in New York, Boston and in some Canadian cities collecting funds for the IRA, while we were your allies, where was the condemnation from America.
re : How are we to distinguish the peaceful Muslims from the fanatical, homicidal Muslims about to murder thousands of our fellow citizens?.
The same we did in North Ireland by use of Intelligence, and in this case it will be easier since the majority of the terrorist organisation is strung out in the Middle East.
I don’t hate the Irish or Americans and Canadians, I have too much experience of the war against Terrorism to try and couch the whole conflict in very simple terms who is on whose side and prove it .
Tony
CDHR Declaration at Durban
Jihad-Islamism (not Islam) abuses human rights worldwide
Declaration by The Coalition for the Defense of Human Rights Affirming the Dangers of Radical Islamism and a Call to Recognize the Historical Oppression of Religious Minorities Subjected to this Racist-like Practice.
We, the members of The Coalition for the Defense of Human Rights, representing minority religious and ethnic communities from around the world, call upon the World Conference Against Racism, Racial Discrimination, Xenophobia and Related Intolerance, now meeting in Durban, South Africa, to address and condemn the ideology of Radical Islamism — a deviation from Islam — as intolerant, xenophobic, racist, supremacist, discriminatory, anti-democratic, and genocidal.
We also call upon the Conference to alert the international community to the widespread dangers of Radical Islamism's culture of animosity and destruction, and to remember and honor the victims of this oppressive ideology of hate toward religious minorities of all beliefs, races, and nationalities.
Finally, we call upon the Conference to recognize that Radical Islamism is a totalitarian movement aimed at establishing a worldwide Radical Islamist state that would:
We believe that the World Conference must act in a manner consistent with the defense of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and ensure that its summary record reflect that Radical Islamism is recognized by all democratic societies as an evil doctrine that should be confronted at Durban and in all United Nations bodies.
To that end, the Conference should recognize the following irrefutable historical facts and warn against the future threats of Radical Islamism:
(I) Radical Islamism Sanctions War through its Radicalized Version of a World Religion.
(A) Jihad, or Holy War, is a religiously sanctioned call for individual and collective violence made by Radical Islamists against "infidels" worldwide. In the past, the concept of Jihad was responsible for many of the greatest tragedies in human history. For over thirteen centuries, millions of human lives have been sacrificed by Jihad campaigns around the world . Now, inspired and organized by the Supremacist ideology of Radical Islamism, Jihad again threatens millions of individuals across the globe.
(B) Fatah, or military conquest, is the employment of Jihad for imperial expansion and colonization of non-Islamic lands. Radical Islamists believe that Fatah is as legitimate today as when the concept gave rise to a series of invasions of countries outside Islam's original birthplace in the Arabian Peninsula.
Historically, Fatah was employed repeatedly over the centuries and included the unprovoked invasions known as Ghazwas by Arab Muslims beginning in 636 AD/CE. These invasions aimed to capture and dominate the Dar al-Harb and impose the religion, and in many areas the language and culture, of the Arab Muslims on their captive subjects. Radical Islamists today wish to re-institutionalize the Ghazwas, thereby re-connecting themselves to a nostalgic, "heroic" past. If successful, they will have reconstituted the world's longest ongoing campaign of imperialist aggression.
History's Three Regional Jihads:
In the 7th Century following the establishment of a government under the Caliph or supreme Muslim religious leader in the Arabian Peninsula, Arab Muslim armies conquered Syria, Palestine, and Mesopotamia, and imposed their rule over the indigenous Christian Armenians, Arameans, Assyrians, Syriacs, Chaldeans, and Jews. Coptic Christian Egypt, Nubian Northern Sudan, Berber Cyrenaica (Libya) and Numedia (Algeria) also were then conquered followed by Spain, southern France, and Sicily. The Arab Muslim armies also invaded Persia and Central Asia reaching as far as India. In all of these lands, an Islamic state was established against the will of the native populations and imposed by Arab governors under the Caliph.
A second unprovoked Fatah was launched from the 11th to the 17th century when Turkish Muslim warriors stormed and conquered Christian Armenia, Byzantium, Greece, the Balkans, and parts of eastern and central Europe, up to the gates of Vienna. Meanwhile a third unprovoked Fatah caused the subjugation of Hindu and Buddhist India.
The Fatah was a planned and organized movement to subdue cultures, and destroy them as a prelude to replacing them with a new foreign religious culture. Today, Radical Islamists wish to revive the Fatah on a global scale.
(II) The Adepts of Radical Islamism Subscribe to an Anachronistic and Widely Discredited Version of a Universal, Monotheistic Faith, Islam, that is a Source of Inspiration to Hundreds of Millions of Muslims worldwide.
(A) Radical Islamists believe in a 1400 year-old religious concept that divides the world into two zones: Dar al-Islam: the realm of peace and Dar al-harb: the realm of war. The former is a zone that is ruled by Islamic states which are worthy of full peace, while the latter is ruled by infidels who inhabit a zone of war, susceptible to Islamic subjugation. Radical Islamists promote a religious worldwide confrontation between the two zones that grants legitimacy to imperial conquest, colonialism, slavery, ethnic cleansing, suppression of liberties, forced religious conversion, and Jihad or Holy War.
(B) Radical Islamists also believe in the 1400 year-old concept of Ridda which holds that a natural born or converted Muslim may not convert or revert to another religion. Today, in many countries ruled or influenced by the Radical Islamist version of Koranic Law, there exists a religiously sanctioned death penalty for those who may decide to change their religion.
(III) Radical Islamism Imposes an Inferior Status on All Non-Muslims and the Special Subservient Status of Dhimmi for "the People of the Book" - Jews and Christians.
In the 7th century, the Caliph Umar imposed this Dhimmi status on conquered populations under his rule. Christians, Jews, and others were forced to accept Al-Shurut al-Umariya, or Umar's conditions, a system of restrictions designed to shame and despoil non-Muslim subjects. Dhimmi peoples had to relinquish their land, were forced to pay a special "protection" tax (dhimma) or face death, wear distinctive clothing, and were banned from most government positions.
Today, Radical Islamists seek to re-impose this state-sanctioned discrimination, calling it an effort to "protect" minorities. In reality, such measures are always part of an effort to enforce assimilation, conversion, and to annihilate the identity of others. The example of Afganistan, where the Hindu minority is forced to wear distinctive clothing to mark them as infidels, is among the most well known.
In areas throughout the Islamic world, Radical Islamists use repression and violence against infidel minorities. In Egypt, Radical Islamists persecute the Copts; in Sudan, the Radical Islamist regime massacres and enslaves the Dinkas, both Christian and traditionalist; in Lebanon, Radical Islamists terrorize the Christians; in Nigeria, they butchered Biafran Ibos and oppress the Christians. In Iraq and Syria, alleged secular radical regimes that are governed by Arab nationalist ideologies and penetrated by Jihadic norms suppress native Christian cultures. In Iran, they persecute Christians and Bahais; in Kashmir, they wage a terrorist war against the Hindu minority; in the southern Philippines, they terrorize Catholics and kidnap foreigners; in East Timor, they have endorsed the regime's attempts at ethnic cleansing against Christians; in Indonesia, they routinely assault the native Christians, particularly in the Moluccas.
(IV) Radical Islamists Seek to Establish the Supremacy of their Version of Islam Over all Other Faiths: the "Global Jihad."
Guided by a deviated interpretation of Islam, the Radical Islamists believe that they will rule the world because of their conviction in the superiority of their religion. Their propaganda mirrors such beliefs as in the Middle East, where they call for the takeover of secular governments in Muslim countries, the destruction of Israel, and the elimination of Christians in Lebanon and South Sudan. In Africa, they call for the conversion to Islam of Black Africa. In Russia, they call for the violent secession of Chechnya, and Dagestan. In Pakistan, they promote Jihad to sever the multi-ethnic province of Kashmir from India. In China, they call for the creation of an Islamic state in Xinjiang. In South East Asia, they support the elimination of East Timor, the destruction of Christian and Chinese minorities in Indonesia, the establishment of a Radical Islamist state in the South Philippines. In Europe, they encourage Radical Islamist separatism in Bosnia and Kosovo, and now in Macedonia. In America and Europe, they have taken over the leadership of the growing Muslim communities to radicalize them and pave the way for Radical Islamist political action in the service of a global Jihad. In every instance, their message is carefully tuned to promote the legitimization of Jihad movements by the international community. To accelerate that goal the Radical Islamists of today are planning, and implementing a Jihad to re-establish the universal Caliphate.
(V) Radical Islamists Abuse Human Rights in their Home Countries
Racial Islamists reject political pluralism, democracy, and fundamental human freedoms in their home countries and abroad. Wherever possible, they use existing freedoms to reach power and then physically eliminate or subdue their opposition. Radical Islamists prohibit or have eliminated political freedoms in Afganistan, Iran, Saudi Arabia, and Sudan, and plan on eliminating those freedoms enjoyed in other countries as they come to dominate them.
Similarly, Radical Islamists do not tolerate religious freedom, or regimes that permit religious equality. In Saudi Arabia, state law forbids non-Muslims to practice their faith. In Afghanistan, Iran, Sudan, and Egypt, non-Muslims are discriminated against in varying degrees.
Much like Dhimmis, women under Radical Islamist regimes and throughout the Muslim world live as an inferior class of citizens. Such regimes promote gender discrimination against women, theologically, ideologically, socially, politically and economically. From Afghanistan to Morocco, women suffer dearly at different levels and in different contexts. Women, who have unequal legal rights, are abused through systematic social discrimination, psychological oppression. Female genital mutilation (FGM) and honor killings are among the most well-known depravations suffered by women in many countries.
Radical Islamists proclaim the equality of races under Islam, but have established a form of religious racism wherever they expanded. They have developed the concept of the "Umma" - the "religious nation" - from which non-Muslims are excluded as a whole. Hence, religion to Radical Islamists is not just a faith held by some citizens and not others; it is an absolute demarcation, dividing superior from inferior human beings. To Radical Islamists, religion is akin to race in any racist system as it sets up an exclusive, superior category of human beings with rights to dominate the others. Within this system, Arab Radical Islamists advocate an Arab Caliph, the Arabic language as the sacred language, and regard other Muslims, especially those of African origin, as inferior. The Radical Islamists' distaste for Africans is rooted in the Arab Muslim participation in the enslavement of Africans, a practice that dates back to the 7th Century AD/CE. Arab-Islamist raids into Africa since the conquest of Egypt have ravaged Africa, uprooted tens of millions of men, women and children, destroying countless families. It contributed to the European slave trade from Africa to the Americas from the 17th century. The Arab enslavement of Africans over the centuries remains active today in Sudan.
(VI) Radical Islamists Deny Their Crimes Against Humanity
While other cultures, movements and religions have acknowledged and sometimes apologized for past racist practices, the Radical Islamists refuse to admit the historical crimes they, and their predecessors, have perpetrated since the 7th century and refuse to acknowledge that those crimes are still being perpetrated today.
In the areas under their control they write revisionist histories of their actions, denying the identity and history of the nations they have subjugated and burying the evidence of the Jihad that they waged against native peoples. In the West, they fund educational programs aimed at erasing their crimes from history. Radical Islamists are penetrating the public educational systems to impose their view of their victims world with the unwitting assistance of their victims. In this way, they obliterate the violent and racist nature of their predecessors' actions and prepare for their return to absolute power, decreed by their beliefs.
For these reasons, the Coalition for the Defense of Human Rights calls upon the World Conference Against Racism to:
1) Request the Organization of the Islamic Conference - acting on behalf of its 57 members - to apologize for past Jihad crimes against humanity, including the brutal invasion and occupation of lands and peoples in the Middle East, North Africa, Europe, and Asia, and the mass enslavement of Africans and others, including Europeans;
2) Condemns all current Jihads, and calls on these Governments to cease violating the rights of ethnic and religious minorities and peoples;
3) Calls on the United Nations to Equate Radical Islamism, Jihad-ism, and Dhimmitude with Racism, Colonialism, and Imperialism;
4) Calls on the United Nations to intervene to protect the rights and lives of religious and ethnic minorities and non-Islamist Muslims in Afganistan, Algeria, Egypt, Indonesia, Iraq, Iran, Lebanon, Mauritania, Nigeria, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia Sudan, and Syria;
5) Calls on Islamic scholars and intellectuals to reject the concepts of Fatah, Jihad, and Dhimmitude;
6) Calls on Islamic Governments to stop imposing the Shari'a on non-Muslims and guarantee the rights of all enlightened Muslim humanists and intellectuals.
Submitted by: The Coalition for the Defense of Human Rights, an umbrella coalition representing various organizations from the following communities: Hindus, Buddhists, Bahais, Humanist Muslims, Copts, Assyrians, Syriacs, Southern Sudanese, Maronites, Southern Philippinos, West Africans, Ibos, Slavic Christians, Armenians, Arab Christians, Nubians, secular intellectuals, and women's groups.
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I would welcome and would take part in any fight against this poison, in fact have stated so on many threads here.
Radical Islamism is a poison of the mind, the people it feeds on are the young, and the poor, just like Communism, its enemy is freedom, truth and a stable society.
I have stated that we should fight this war, but the objectives should be clear, and that does not mean Nuking Arab cities or burning down mosques are declaring a counter jihad.
Most of their supporters are, apart from a few stupid students and macho young men in the West, are third World Peasants most unemployed with nothing to hang onto but a poisons ideology this is the same as Communism.
As America saved Europe from Communism with the Marshall Plan we should imitate a similar plan in Afghanistan, and every other country that falls out of there grip
The only Muslims who don’t seem to have anything nice to say about the Taliban are the Afghanistan people them self’s, they know what it is like to live under a radical Islamism state.
In Iran the younger people are also turning against the hardliner Islamic clerics, they are fed up with the constant scarifies for a revolution few still believe in.
We should do what we did to Communism contain it and encourage its collapse from within.
Radical Islamism contains by its very nature the seeds of its own destruction just as Communism and Nazism did.
Tony
patent
Can you imagine a 13 year old virgin happy to be married to a 45 year old stranger as his 4th wife?
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