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TALIBAN PEOPLE JUST OPENLY SAID TO KILL AMERICANS IS ISLAMIC DUTY
ABC GOOD MORNING AMERICA ^ | 09/28/01 | RACEBANNON

Posted on 09/28/2001 4:53:36 AM PDT by RaceBannon

I JUST HEARD IT ON ABC RIGHT NOW

THEY WENT TO THE TALIBAN AND INTERVIEWED THEM, DON'T REMEMBER WHERE, BUT THEY CLEARLY SAID:

TO KILL AMERICANS AND UNBELIEVERS IS WHAT THE HOLY BOOK SAYS


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America better wake up, this is entirely a religious war, and it has been declared on us!!
1 posted on 09/28/2001 4:53:36 AM PDT by RaceBannon
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To: RaceBannon
It's not a religious war. The Taliban kills Muslims and Christians as well.
2 posted on 09/28/2001 4:55:00 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: RaceBannon
I need to find out who this guy was, some young, late 30'ish documentary maker interviewed some Taliban people somewhere, and I think it was supposed to be before the bombings. He said something like NO ONE would buy his documentary.

Also, while interviewing these people, they were ALL laughing, the tv crew and the Taliban people, both were laughing, so this must be an old interview.

3 posted on 09/28/2001 4:55:17 AM PDT by RaceBannon
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To: AppyPappy
Yes, Muslim Infidels, and they do it because they arent Muslim enough!
4 posted on 09/28/2001 4:55:50 AM PDT by RaceBannon
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To: AppyPappy
Exactly. There is no religious war. This is a war against head cases. That's all.
5 posted on 09/28/2001 4:56:50 AM PDT by TKEman
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To: RaceBannon
I've heard this before- no surprise.
6 posted on 09/28/2001 4:57:51 AM PDT by The Raven
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To: RaceBannon
What's so religious about a bunch of Middle East origined losers oggling women at sports clubs in Laurel, MD, getting lap dances and piss drunk at "gentlemen's clubs" in Florida, lying to state agencies to get IDs, insulting women they meet publicly, or having their apartment strewn with adult magazines and visiting porn shops together elsewhere in other states.

There is nothing religious about these atttackers. On top of this all, of course, is their patent slaughter of many who are religious. Therefore, we already know they are just using the name of religion to engage in the works of the Evil One.

7 posted on 09/28/2001 5:00:11 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo
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To: RaceBannon
"We take from the rich and give to the poor"
"Which poor"
"Us poor"....WC Fields

The Taliban is a statist empire that uses religion to control people. It's not the religion's fault that it is misused. If they were Shinto's, they would do the same.

8 posted on 09/28/2001 5:00:11 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: RaceBannon
i'm not american but i am an athiest so i assume the "KILL UNBELIEVERS " applies to me. come on america, kill ALL terroists. it's that simple. honestly
9 posted on 09/28/2001 5:00:29 AM PDT by yonsei
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To: RaceBannon
Race, I agree. This is a holy war and the American people are very naive about it.

I am not a bigot and certainly I know Muslims that I think are good, kind people. But, there are a lot of verses in the koran that are completely against what we Westerners understand to be moral and correct. Muslims are not permitted to go to war unless it is a holy war, one fought for Alla and Islam.

10 posted on 09/28/2001 5:02:20 AM PDT by Chick-with-a-brain
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To: AppyPappy
Are you assuming that because they kill some Moslems and lots of Christians that it is not, therefore, a religious war? The key issue is what the Taliban thinks, and they very plainly believe it is a religious war.
11 posted on 09/28/2001 5:03:02 AM PDT by twntaipan
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To: RaceBannon
That documentary was chilling. As I've always said, Islam is not a peacful religion. Here's what they believe: God gave the Word to the Jews, the Jews blew it. Then God gave the Word to the Christians, and the Christians blew it. Then God (Allah) came to Mohammad, gave him the truth, and the Muslims are now following holy orders (the Koran) to rid the world of sin. Should they reject Allah's commands, they too will be rebuked by Allah.
12 posted on 09/28/2001 5:05:21 AM PDT by FrdmLvr
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To: AppyPappy

"It's not a religious war. The Taliban kills Muslims and Christians as well."

Precisely as the Koran dictates. Those Moslems who befriend Christians and Jews - according to Koran - are no better than Christians and Jews: unbelievers all.

On the other hand, you've been shown the truth on this site so many times, I'm beginning to believe you're immune to it.

Have a nice day, anyway.

14 posted on 09/28/2001 5:15:59 AM PDT by Stingray
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To: The Documentary Lady
Any IMAM can call for a Holy War, Any Religious Scholar can call for a Holy War. There is no POPE or anything similar within Islam, and when multiple IMAM's call for Jijhad against America, we better wake up, it is Islam against us because of Islam!!

It is those who use Islam to assault us. It is those who are Islamic religion leaders who call for war based on the Koran.

It is Islamic clerics that call for our death based on the Koran and their religious beliefs.

And you want to call it something else??? It is NOT what YOU think it is about, it is what THEY think it is about!!

15 posted on 09/28/2001 5:17:17 AM PDT by RaceBannon
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To: RaceBannon
Correct. And here is why.
16 posted on 09/28/2001 5:18:24 AM PDT by Rocko
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Any IMAM can call for a Holy War, Any Religious Scholar can call for a Holy War. There is no POPE or anything similar within Islam, and when multiple IMAM's call for Jijhad against America, we better wake up, it is Islam against us because of Islam!!

It is those who use Islam to assault us. It is those who are Islamic religion leaders who call for war based on the Koran.

It is Islamic clerics that call for our death based on the Koran and their religious beliefs.

And you want to call it something else??? It is NOT what YOU think it is about, it is what THEY think it is about!!

17 posted on 09/28/2001 5:18:54 AM PDT by RaceBannon
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To: TKEman
Any IMAM can call for a Holy War, Any Religious Scholar can call for a Holy War. There is no POPE or anything similar within Islam, and when multiple IMAM's call for Jijhad against America, we better wake up, it is Islam against us because of Islam!!

It is those who use Islam to assault us. It is those who are Islamic religion leaders who call for war based on the Koran.

It is Islamic clerics that call for our death based on the Koran and their religious beliefs.

And you want to call it something else??? It is NOT what YOU think it is about, it is what THEY think it is about!!

18 posted on 09/28/2001 5:19:23 AM PDT by RaceBannon
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To: Stingray
Those Moslems who befriend Christians and Jews

They also kill Muslims who don't measure up to their version of Muslim. See the Inquisition.

19 posted on 09/28/2001 5:21:13 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: RaceBannon
What if one leaders calls for a Jihad and two say it is wrong. Who wins?
20 posted on 09/28/2001 5:22:02 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: RaceBannon
re : America better wake up, this is entirely a religious war, and it has been declared on us!!

The Taliban have only one hope of survival and that is turning this anti Terrorist operation into a Holy War, something we are not going to do.

That is like holding a Royal flush to the Talibans pair of twos ignoring the pot and agreeing to play a new game.

Tony

21 posted on 09/28/2001 5:22:34 AM PDT by tonycavanagh
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To: Stingray
you've been shown **the truth** on this site so many times

You mispelled "ignorance". Hope this helps.

22 posted on 09/28/2001 5:22:55 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: AppyPappy

You mispelled "ignorance". Hope this helps.

LOL! That's uproariously funny coming from a guy who only recently claimed (based on some Islamic tract) that Allah was the same God of all the monotheist religions!

Shall we revisit that issue here and see where your "ignorance" leads?

Just say the word, Appy...

23 posted on 09/28/2001 5:28:18 AM PDT by Stingray
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To: tonycavanagh
You're forgetting something, and that is Indonesia and Islam there. For the last year, Muslims in Indonesia have been killing Christians wholesale. Recent articles posted here document the going of door-to-door to hotels looking for Americans and Christians in general, so they could either be expelled or killed.

Muslims in the Philippenes are holding hostages and committing mnurder there, too. Islam is not a religion of peace. In fact, Islam does not mean peace, it means SUBMISSION.

24 posted on 09/28/2001 5:29:21 AM PDT by RaceBannon
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To: RaceBannon, All
Time to read this. "Relentlessly and Thoroughly"
25 posted on 09/28/2001 5:31:22 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Stingray
He really said that??

It makes me shudder what some people who don't read their Bible can think when a certain religious leader tells them that all roads lead to God, that Islamic people will go to heaven as well as Christians! You will end up believing anything!!

26 posted on 09/28/2001 5:32:21 AM PDT by RaceBannon
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To: RaceBannon
Allah is the God of the Jews and Christians. The Koran attributes Allah as the God Of Abraham.

See #45 on that thread for my response.

27 posted on 09/28/2001 5:39:59 AM PDT by Stingray
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To: RaceBannon
Those who commit the worst excesses are Third World people, and some European countries, there have been examples of Christians also committing the same crimes against other Christians and Muslims, of Muslims committing atrocities against other Muslims.

Many use religion as an excuse but some use race, as they are taking over are jobs, or they are kidnapping and enslaving are children or they put spells on me.

I have done anti terrorist and peace keeping operations in North Ireland, the Balkans, and parts of Africa, and I have seen real hatred and the worst of human behaviour, I have also seen very decent people trying to stay decent.

In all cases it is extremist whipping up hatred based on ignorance and fear. We must not fall into the same trap, we do not have the same excuse we are better educated and informed( do I really believe that)

If we are to fight this war we must go for the trouble makers remove them, the terrorist leaders, the financial supporters, the enforcers, the propagandists.

For the crowds all they really need is a decent economy so that they can work and feed there family. Once we have wiped out the terrorist we should take a long hard look at helping these nations in sorting them self’s out once and for all

Tony

28 posted on 09/28/2001 5:41:23 AM PDT by tonycavanagh
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To: RaceBannon
Maybe Jesse Jackson can redeem himself by becoming a martyr.
30 posted on 09/28/2001 5:56:36 AM PDT by Semper Paratus
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To: The Documentary Lady
To name an operation infinite justice is not fighting words. To call for the death of Americans based on religion is.

Bush re-named the operation to appease those who believe, according to THEIR holy book, it is the duty of Islam to kill unbelievers. And we call Bush's statement 'fighting words'??

Go to an online version of the Koran, read it, their religion hates the Jews and openly calls for their deaths and Christians deaths, and that is just quoting it, not taking an analogy or parable out of context, it is following it the way it says. Until you read the Koran yourself, please refrain from responding. All you have to read is the first 3 chapters to see this!

31 posted on 09/28/2001 6:01:09 AM PDT by RaceBannon
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To: tonycavanagh
Tony come on, we are tired of the liberal mantra, throw money at it. Most of the highjackers on those planes were middle to upper middle class and educated.

They are ignorant alright, but they are much more than just that, they are evil. They are as evil as Cain, jealous of their place with God, unable to accept as we do that Jews are the chosen people, and it would not suprise me if they were his decendents. They are as jealous and full of hate as Ismael and his egyptian mother who they do claim.

Here is what God says of them Genesis 16:12 "and he will be a wild donkey of a man, His hand will be against everyone, and everyones hand will be against him, and he will live to the east of all his brothers". To live to the east is to be an extremist. I think this discription covers them pretty well.

The only thing that is going to sit them back on their haunches, and give them pause, is to bomb Mecca, and destroy their holy places. Power is all they understand and brutality, if they see their holy places leveled, they will give a second thought as to their timing, that this might not be the time to fulfill the Koran.

32 posted on 09/28/2001 6:01:14 AM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: AmericanInTokyo
What's so religious about a bunch of Middle East origined losers oggling women at sports clubs in Laurel, MD, getting lap dances and piss drunk at "gentlemen's clubs" in Florida, lying to state agencies to get IDs, insulting women they meet publicly, or having their apartment strewn with adult magazines and visiting porn shops together elsewhere in other states.

Just hedging against Allah's heaven being a virgin or two short.

33 posted on 09/28/2001 6:01:59 AM PDT by Diojneez
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To: Stingray
Allah is the God of Abraham. I realize you have found some webpage somewhere that says Allah is a Moon God but stray pages on the Internet are rarely reliable theology. Sometimes you have to go with the obvious.
34 posted on 09/28/2001 6:08:50 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: tonycavanagh
we are better educated and informed( do I really believe that)

There you go with your religion, again. Your beliefs, their beliefs.

Somebody needs to do a body count through history. Count how many of them killed non-them, and how many of us killed non-us.

35 posted on 09/28/2001 6:09:49 AM PDT by packrat01
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Well...With Holy War our Middle East House Cleaning could be extended to the entire house.
36 posted on 09/28/2001 6:42:15 AM PDT by ohioman
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To: AppyPappy
"We take from the rich and give to the poor"

"Which poor"

"Us poor"


Add abortion on demand, and you have the DNC national platform.
37 posted on 09/28/2001 6:46:50 AM PDT by ConservativeNJdad
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To: AppyPappy
You are so right, they don't care who it is and maybe soon, they will hear the thunder of bombs. Its a shame that they feel they are the center of all things.
38 posted on 09/28/2001 6:52:21 AM PDT by gulfcoast6
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To: MissAmericanPie
Hello MissAmericanPie

Not really into the bible much, I prefer books on the military.

Lets answer your points.

re : Tony come on, we are tired of the liberal mantra, throw money at it.

Sorry we are not discussing the welfare state here.

After the Second World War, Europe was exhausted there was nothing standing between the Soviet Army and the channel except an exhausted Britain, already stretched fighting a communist take over in Greece.

Your President came to the rescue with the Marshall plan, this aid rebuilt Europe and stopped the Soviet Advance dead in Europe, without it the Soviet empire would of Africa and the Middle east would of followed.

The world could of looked very differently then.

Rebuilding a countries infrastructure and helping them back on there feet seems a wise investment to me, after all once they are up and running they like Europe and parts of Asia which America helped rebuild become more markets for American goods.

re : The only thing that is going to sit them back on their haunches, and give them pause, is to bomb Mecca, and destroy their holy places. Power is all they understand and brutality

Well Hitler and Stalin would agree with you, although even though the Germans were extremely brutal in there anti Partisan operations throughout Europe during the last war, and I mean extremely brutal, wiping out whole population centres for any anti German activity, resistance to them grew and grew, brutality is always met by more brutality.

And no matter how much you may wish it I don’t think you will get the Western Military to behave like Communists or Nazis. For a start when I die I want to have a clean a slate as possible, and so do many others.

We will win this war, and we will win it while still staying decent human beings, if we become like the enemy then what is the choice for those on the other side who want to escape the yoke of oppression cast upon them by the dictators who call them self’s leaders.

Tony

39 posted on 09/28/2001 6:53:27 AM PDT by tonycavanagh
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To: RaceBannon
Damn right they view it as a Holy War!

P.C. will lose the war for us yet if we don't wake up & SMACK the p.c. crowd!

40 posted on 09/28/2001 6:54:53 AM PDT by FReethesheeples
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To: packrat01
I think on the killing stakes we win hands down, but I think we have learnt from it, well better military tactics anyway.

Tony

41 posted on 09/28/2001 6:55:39 AM PDT by tonycavanagh
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To: RaceBannon
The Taliban will try to kill anyone who threatens their little military junta. They are a group of fascist thugs hiding behind God, and they'll get theirs.

In the meantime, keep in mind, they're not gonna be around much longer. The Taliban signed its own death warrant when it refused to hand over bin Laden and shut down al-Qaeda. bin Laden, for his part, signed his warrant on Sept. 11. Soon they will all meet their "Allah," in Hell with Mohammed Atta and the rest of their brainwashed terrorist followers.
42 posted on 09/28/2001 6:59:30 AM PDT by gopgen
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To: RaceBannon
Bin Laden has said the same thing for years. His 1998 interviews with ABC are on their web site. Those are just a few instances. This country needs to wake up; our leaders will eventually have to change their tune and say it like it is -- ALL Islamic fundamentalists believe it is their duty to kill Americans and Jews. The killing of moderate Muslims just goes along with recruitment for the so-called higher calling of duty.
43 posted on 09/28/2001 6:59:56 AM PDT by Kryptonite
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To: ohioman
re : Well...With Holy War our Middle East House Cleaning could be extended to the entire house.

The problem is it is so easy to extend a war but how to halt it afterwards.

There are those on this site who think we should wipe out the Middle East.

I guess if you don’t believe in God and Hell it could be one option, after all if there is no judgement at the end what you can get away with you can get away with, and we do have the means to exterminate the entire population of the Middle East.

Tony

44 posted on 09/28/2001 7:00:05 AM PDT by tonycavanagh
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To: tonycavanagh
And no matter how much you may wish it I don’t think you will get the Western Military to behave like Communists or Nazis. For a start when I die I want to have a clean a slate as possible, and so do many others.

I dont believe that. This is not a war somewhere else anymore. IT is personal. Americans in the Pacific fought as hard as the Japanese because of Peral Harbor. We killed many civilians because they killed many civilians. Same with the bombing of Germany.

Now, the terrorists did it withut a war even being declared openly, they declared war through their tactics. A personal war. One where there will be no quarter on either side except where western cameras are filming western troops, for the Afghanies already are known for no mercy.

This will be a bloody one, one the Muslims started, plain and simple. If they had only left Israel alone, we wouldn't be here.

45 posted on 09/28/2001 7:01:07 AM PDT by RaceBannon
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To: FrdmLvr
Well, since then God gave his word to Joseph Smith, the Moslems blew it.;^)
46 posted on 09/28/2001 7:01:59 AM PDT by Kermit
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To: RaceBannon
Dammit . . . I want 70 virgins too . . . don't you ???
47 posted on 09/28/2001 7:06:28 AM PDT by GeekDejure
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To: Kermit
That explains the familiarity of BOM and the Koran.
48 posted on 09/28/2001 7:10:02 AM PDT by hope
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To: RaceBannon
Ok I have staed how I would fight the awr using my experience in counter terrorism.

You tell me what you would do.

Tony

49 posted on 09/28/2001 7:18:02 AM PDT by tonycavanagh
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To: AppyPappy RaceBannon
What if one leaders calls for a Jihad and two say it is wrong. Who wins?

The one with more Kalashnikovs. This is a concept we had better figure out, fast. It may be a minority of Muslims that want to engage in Jihad, but 10-15% of 1.3 billion is a lot of folks. We need to come down on that 10-15% like a ton of bricks. We need the number to be more like 0.0000023%.

50 posted on 09/28/2001 7:24:55 AM PDT by FreedomPoster
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