Joe 6-pack's Questions for Liberals

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[ewchil]

Listen up, the first 10 amendments to the Constitution are explanations and practical situations to which the necessary and proper clause is applied. They are their because the wise founders figured that people with only half a deck (like you) might not be able to figure out what necessary and proper means. Department of education is not necessary or proper to the execution of the foregoing powers, (common defense, etc.)

The things you mentioned would be 'banned' even if the first 10 amendments did not exist because they are not necessary or proper to the execution of the authorized powers of the federal government.

[Humidston]

I'd chalk it up to the moral vacuum that seems to exist in the wealthy,

Are you saying that if one is poor one cannot be immoral?

Only the wealthy are immoral?

Wealthy people are immoral because they are wealthy?

What about if and when you ever attain success and become "wealthy?" Will that result in your loss of morality?

[GWfan]

Bump for a great piece that I missed the first time around!!

[Joe_October]

Northman and our other liberal posters answered the questions exactly as a liberal would do so. I agree with you. I have the same position as you but I'm going to do this other thing that is completely different because I feel that is the right way using my convoluted selection of words.

Thank-you for honestly stating your opinions. It was indeed brave and the selection of words and phrases almost sounds like a noble position.

But, it's funny, I don't actually think you wouldn't be pitching a fit if the President of the United States was using your daughter as a spare sink.

[culpeper]

My local Sunoco still washes your windshield, they even wear a Sunoco shirt and tie and they will check your oil if you ask them. This is also the only gas station in town not run by ragheads.

[Joe 6-pack]

"My local Sunoco still washes your windshield, they even wear a Sunoco shirt and tie and they will check your oil if you ask them. This is also the only gas station in town not run by ragheads."

Where's that? I know some municipalities have ordinances against self-serve stations. Sounds like a well run, and disciplined business. How do their prices compare to their local competitors that don't provide the same services?

[Tatze]

Well, Jerky. This is how it works. The Constitution grants powers to the government. You quoted a few Amendments that limit the government, as to imply that if the Constitution doesnt limit or ban something, then it is okay. Well, the Amendment you failed to quote, is the one that shoots holes in your theory, ans that would be the 10th Amendment. Read it carefully, there will be a test later.

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

Now, what does that mean?? It means that if the Consitution does not specifically delegate authority for something to the government, then the government cannot do it. And last time I checked, I saw no Consitutional grounds for a "Federal" Education system. No Federal Education System = no Department of Education. The same would apply to many other federal agencies. However, an argument can be made for the authorization of a Commerce Department being in line with the Commerce clause (Article I, Section 8, Clause 3:To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;).

Now wasnt that easy to understand?

[Ragtime Cowgirl]

Great questions...and answers. Thanks, Joe. Why do liberals never ask the poor what they think? If it's just about money, why do third world nations have wealthy, corrupt leaders? If it's just about money, why has there never been mass starvation in Democratic nations? If the left truly care about the poor of any race, why do they keep undermining their humanity and spirit with the most destructive label - that of helpless victim?

Bryan, are you still visiting DU? (^:

[Bryan]

I gave up on DU long ago. Way too much hypocrisy, flaming and oppression of anyone and everyone who even sounds like he might be thinking about, perhaps, having a thought or belief somewhere to the right of James Carville, someday.

They eat their own young. Anyone who isn't radical Left on abortion, gay rights and the environment is inevitably banned. This includes moderate Democrats. As a result, they're down to about 10 or 12 members who post on a regular basis.

[PeoplesRepublicOfWashington]

If homosexuality is genetic, why hasn't homosexuality been bred out of existence a long, long time ago? By what mechanism does genetically transmitted homosexuality perpetuate itself? An outrageously high and outrageously targeted mutation rate?

[Gumption]

Thank you for saving me the trouble of answering jerky's ignorant questions about a subject we should all know like the back of our hands. You done good.

The founding dads should have never gave-in to the anti federalists and adopted a BOR. It has only accomplished the one thing they were trying to avoid, idiots misconstruing the original Constitution.

[Ragtime Cowgirl]

As a result, they're down to about 10 or 12 members who post on a regular basis.

Thanks for the happy news. (^:

[lowbridge]

Hey, Joe! You got your questions answered!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/cgi-bin/duforum/duboard.cgi?az=list_threads&om=1419&forum=DCForumID12

(note the Trent Lott quote in Lazarus' signature line. I cannot yet find any evidence that Trent Lott said that, though lefties are passing it around to each other as if it were gospel. Anyone?)

[Kewlhand`tek]

things not specified in the constitution are left up to the states.

[Kewlhand`tek]

i might be wrong but i hear in Oregon all gas stations pump gas for you. They listed gasoline as a carcenogin and was a healt risk for you to pump it. Supposedly it was only done that way to "create" jobs. So i wonder if a few years from now those gas pumpers can sue the state or big gas for cancer?

[coloradan]

The First Amendment protects individual rights to speech, press, worship, etc, and other articles protect other individual rights. The Tenth Amendment states that those powers not delegated to the federal powers ... are reserved to the States, or to the people. That means that no task that isn't specifically spelled out as a Constitutional duty for the federal government, may be undertaken by it. The feds can mint coins and raise an army ... but can't dictate what must be in textbooks.

Thus, even though there is no inalienable right to own toasters protected in the Bill of Rights, we may presume we have this right, unless some basis to revoke it can be made. But since the Federal Toaster Authority is not spelled out in the Constitution (including Amendments), such an agency at the federal level is strictly unconstitutional and therefore illegal.

The only legal ways for such an agency to exist are to have it at the State level, or to amend the Federal Constitution to authorize it at a federal level. Lacking either, we have an unrestricted right to toaster ownership.

[CyberCowboy777]

LOL

[Husker24]

The Russian armey sided with Yeltson, they werent exactly unarmed.

[SW6906]

Awesome. Just Awesome. A must-pass-on to my liberal-leaning family and friends.....Thanks!

[Dec31,1999]

bttt.