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Flag display causes ruckus at Holy Cross
Worcester Telegram & Gazette Staff ^ | Monday, October 01, 2001 | Emilie Astell

Posted on 10/01/2001 4:06:24 PM PDT by Lecie

Flag display causes ruckus at Holy Cross

Monday, October 01, 2001

By Emilie Astell

Worcester (Mass) Telegram & Gazette Staff

WORCESTER-- Margaret Post took an American flag to work three days after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks to mourn the death of Todd Beamer, a close personal friend who was a passenger on United Airlines Flight 93 when the hijacked jet crashed in rural Pennsylvania.

She did not realize, she said Thursday, that by hanging the flag in a second-floor hallway of Beavens Hall at the College of the Holy Cross she would cause a commotion. Instead of allowing the flag to remain in place, Royce Singleton, chairman of the college's Sociology Department, asked Mrs. Post, a secretary in the department, to take it down.

She refused.

He took it down, folded it and placed the flag on her desk, she said.

“I was doing a very patriotic thing on a national day of mourning,” she said. Her only intention, she added, was to mourn the death of a friend and honor his memory.

Mrs. Post's husband, Robert, worked with Mr. Beamer at Oracle Corp. Mrs. Post and Lisa Beamer had accompanied their husbands on a business trip to Europe and returned home on Sept. 10.

Todd Beamer is believed to have been one of the passengers who tried to stop the hijackers. He called his wife on a cellphone minutes before the plane crashed, telling her that he and others planned to overpower the terrorists.

Mrs. Beamer was honored Sept. 20 at the Capitol during President Bush's address to the nation and received a standing ovation when she was introduced by the president.

Mr. Singleton acknowledged in an interview Thursday afternoon that he had taken the flag down, but declined to explain his reasons, saying that there was “nothing to discuss with anyone outside the college.”

“I don't want to get into why it happened,” he said. “It was a decision I very much regret having made for many reasons.”

Mrs. Post said she explained to Mr. Singleton that she was mourning a friend, but he told her that displaying the flag would make some students uncomfortable. After the incident, she received a letter from Mr. Singleton in which he expressed remorse, she said.

Mr. Singleton denied Thursday night that he said anything about students to Mrs. Post.

“There is nothing that I can say that will make anybody understand the social context in which this occurred,” he said.

There was still lingering shock, anxiety and anger that Friday, he said. Seeing the flag in the hallway upset him, he added, and “stirred certain emotions in me.” He did not elaborate on what kinds of emotions he experienced.

Two other professors in the department, whom Mrs. Post declined to identify, agreed with Mr. Singleton that the flag should be removed, she said.

The incident upset Mrs. Post and prompted her to leave the campus before lunchtime that Friday, Sept. 14. She returned to work the following Wednesday.

“I started the day in honor and left in embarrassment and tears,” the Auburn resident said. “I'm a very patriotic person. I fly an American flag outside my home every day with a light on it.”

When she returned to work, Mrs. Post met with Mr. Singleton and Stephen C. Ainlay, dean of the college. An agreement was reached allowing Mrs. Post to display a flag in her office. She now has a small flag on top of her desk.

Holy Cross spokeswoman Katherine B. McNamara called the incident a “knee-jerk reaction” on the part of Mr. Singleton and one that does not characterize the college.

“The campus is filled with American flags,” she said Thursday night. “Holy Cross stands for academic freedom.”

As news of the incident spread through Beavens Hall, Mrs. Post said, an employee in the psychology department, which is on the third floor of the building, retrieved the flag that had been taken down. The flag was then displayed in the third-floor hallway, with no objections.

An employee at Holy Cross for eight years, Mrs. Post said she still enjoys working there, although it has been stressful since the incident.

“I know the professors in the department had a different interpretation of the flag than I have,” she said, “but it's not every day a secretary stands up to professors.”


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1 posted on 10/01/2001 4:06:24 PM PDT by Lecie (amulkern@radix.net)
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To: Lecie
A.M.,

Nice catch.

M.F.

2 posted on 10/01/2001 4:08:59 PM PDT by First_Salute
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To: Lecie
Sounds like Singleton needs to find a place where he would be more comfortable - like Antioch or Evergreen.
3 posted on 10/01/2001 4:11:59 PM PDT by Hacksaw
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To: Lecie
The T&G also had an article about some bleeding heart get together at Clark U. Disgusting to say the least.
4 posted on 10/01/2001 4:12:07 PM PDT by KantianBurke
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To: Lecie
Everyday more secretaries should stand up to professors. After all, a PhD hung on the wall of an idiot isn't something to be impressed with.

I've worked with doctors, lawyers and college PhD's and by far and away, the latter are the most unreasonable and jerkish of the three groups. They truly have bought into themselves, believing that they know everything about everything.

5 posted on 10/01/2001 4:12:10 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: Lecie
Now it would appear that many call for us to restrain our patriotism lest we offend those who aren't even citizens of this country.

I say they can all be damned, and go back to the sand farms they came from if they don't like it, but we Americans must never allow the discomfort of one who is not one of us to ever stop us from declaring our allegiance to our country and/or to God.
6 posted on 10/01/2001 4:12:17 PM PDT by Demosthenes
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To: Lecie
but he told her that displaying the flag would make some students uncomfortable

Send all students home who are uncomfortable about are flag being displayed.

7 posted on 10/01/2001 4:13:24 PM PDT by RickyJ
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To: Lecie
“There is nothing that I can say that will make anybody understand the social context in which this occurred,” he said.

You g.d. right, punk.

8 posted on 10/01/2001 4:14:32 PM PDT by BurkeanCyclist
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To: Hacksaw
Sounds like Singleton needs to find a place where he would be more comfortable - like Antioch or Evergreen.

Or Havana or Tehran.

9 posted on 10/01/2001 4:15:12 PM PDT by BurkeanCyclist
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To: Lecie
How come none of these assholes ever regrets having made the decisions they have made until after they get caught? Never mind. Rhetorical question.
10 posted on 10/01/2001 4:15:23 PM PDT by johniegrad
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To: Lecie
I am not ashamed of our Flag. I am ashamed of those who are offended by it.
11 posted on 10/01/2001 4:15:52 PM PDT by pray4liberty
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To: Hacksaw
Like Cuba or North Korea.
12 posted on 10/01/2001 4:16:14 PM PDT by Sunburnt in Seattle
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To: Lecie
Sniff Sniff...

You guys smell that?

I think there is a Freep just waiting to happen!

OK who has the E-mail and Snail Maill addresses?

Wanted to try out this new Palm Handheld anyhow!

Ok who has got the goods? Post it and we can get this show on the road!

13 posted on 10/01/2001 4:16:21 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg
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To: Lecie
“The campus is filled with American flags,” she said Thursday night. “Holy Cross stands for academic freedom.”

The second comment is completely irrelevant to the first. Academic freedom is not the issue here.

14 posted on 10/01/2001 4:16:22 PM PDT by mountaineer
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To: Lecie
I have no idea what Singleton's background may be but I do know that the Marxists, Socialists and Communists have been infiltrating our universities for decades. I imagine Singleton's agenda was set back a year or two by the events of 11 September.
15 posted on 10/01/2001 4:16:56 PM PDT by waxhaw
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To: Lecie
"There is nothing I can say to anybody that can explain the social context in which this occurred."

If this professor is that inarticulate and unable to express himself, or that dishonest, he should be fired. It figures these folks were from the sociology department, which is a usual gathering place for anti-American lefties.
16 posted on 10/01/2001 4:17:18 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Lecie
Royce Singleton's website is here. You can e-mail him at rsinglet@holycross.edu.

Not that I would encourage writing Professor Singleton. But if you must, please do be very, very polite. There's nothing that a liberal hates more than a polite conservative.

17 posted on 10/01/2001 4:17:26 PM PDT by DallasMike
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To: Lecie, OLDWORD
I think we need some background on the Professor who took this flag down. For starters, was he one of the "400 Professors" who attacked Bush, and who attacked the Supreme Court? That's Prof. Sean Wiltitz' group -- he's at Princeton.

The (More er Less) Honorable Billybob,
cyberCongressman from Western Carolina

Click here for Billybob's latest, "Bush is DEAD Wrong." The next, "The ONE Commandment," will be posted after al Qua'da and Taliban are gone, or in about 48 hours.

Click here and go to "ALCU Watch" for "The Law of War," a detailed legal discussion of how the US declares war, both historically and in this instance.

For a clear discussion of the difference between what the US can constitutionally do in wartime with aliens (but NOT with US citizens of foreign extraction), see my book, Manzanar, published in 1988.

18 posted on 10/01/2001 4:17:40 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob
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To: Lecie
When asked why he burned the cross in front of the Black Student Union, Professor David Duke said "“There is nothing that I can say that will make anybody understand the social context in which this occurred,” he said.

I wonder how THAT would be received at Holy Cross. Academic freedom and all that.

19 posted on 10/01/2001 4:19:08 PM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: Lecie
Isn't Holy Cross where FBI agents predominantly come from?

Well, that explains a lot.

20 posted on 10/01/2001 4:20:24 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: Lecie
Mrs. Post said she explained to Mr. Singleton that she was mourning a friend, but he told her that displaying the flag would make some students uncomfortable.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

This sentence summarizes, perhaps best of all, what the political left has done to our country in the last 30 years. This is our nation and flying our flag might make some students feel uncomfortable. If they are uncomfortable, let them get their uncomfortable *sses out of there!

21 posted on 10/01/2001 4:21:11 PM PDT by doug from upland
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To: AppyPappy
When asked why he burned the cross, Professor Duke said that seeing a black man kiss the white woman in the hallway upset him, he added, and “stirred certain emotions in me.” He did not elaborate on what kinds of emotions he experienced.

I bet Holy Cross would be VERY sympathetic. Academic freedom and all.

22 posted on 10/01/2001 4:21:19 PM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: DallasMike
"Royce Singleton's website is here. You can e-mail him at rsinglet@holycross.edu."

BWAHAHAHAHA I knew I could count on the freepers!

23 posted on 10/01/2001 4:21:24 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg
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To: Lecie
Is this the same college that had a professor write a book that was full of lies about Thomas Jefferson and also told countless lies about his military career in Viet Nam?
24 posted on 10/01/2001 4:22:09 PM PDT by OldFriend
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To: DallasMike
Margaret Post has a page here. You may write her at mpost@holycross.edu.
25 posted on 10/01/2001 4:22:17 PM PDT by DallasMike
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To: Hacksaw
"Sounds like Singleton needs to find a place where he would be more comfortable - like Antioch or Evergreen."

How about Kabul???

26 posted on 10/01/2001 4:23:54 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: Lecie
I personally believe we are seeing the opening rounds of those who seek to destroy our flag in the same manner they destroyed the Dixie flag.  Folks, if my hunch is right, these liberal jerks are going to have to answer to me and a whole lot more citizens.  It would be totally unacceptable for our flag to come under fire, no matter how appologetic some are for our nation's deeds.  If they don't like living under our flag, they can move elsewhere.  The flag stays!

Our flag represent freedom to change just about whatever people don't like about our nation.  There are some exceptions.  Trashing that flag is one of them. At least that's how I feel about it.


27 posted on 10/01/2001 4:24:30 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: Lecie
“I don't want to get into why it happened,” he said. “It was a decision I very much regret having made for many reasons.”

Yeah I bet. Like you regret exposing yourself for the anti-American scumbag you are.

“There is nothing that I can say that will make anybody understand the social context in which this occurred,” he said.

Yeah, the ignorant public could never understand the progressive culture of America hating leftists. Hah! We understand you all too well.

There was still lingering shock, anxiety and anger that Friday, he said. Seeing the flag in the hallway upset him, he added, and “stirred certain emotions in me.” He did not elaborate on what kinds of emotions he experienced.

We can only guess--anger at the audacity of someone to hang that emblem you hate in your Sociology Department. Loathing of the ignorant masses who actually revere what you consider a symbol of the most evil, racist, homosphobic county on earth. Am I getting warm?

I think it would be a great service is someone started an internet site with a database of all the America-hating commie professors who keep appearing like cockroaches out of the woodwork in these stories.

28 posted on 10/01/2001 4:25:40 PM PDT by Hugin
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To: Mad Dawgg
Royce Singleton, Sociology professer: rsinglet@holycross.edu

Give him a good Freep.

29 posted on 10/01/2001 4:25:53 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: DallasMike
One of the things that struck me was that the picture of Perfesser' Singleton showed him playing golf while the picture of Margaret Post showed her working. Those two, simple pictures speak volumes about the dichotomy that exists today between liberals and conservatives.
30 posted on 10/01/2001 4:26:09 PM PDT by DallasMike
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To: Lecie
"“There is nothing that I can say that will make anybody understand the social context in which this occurred,” he said."--- No kidding.

Here's what my Alma Mater had to say about America this past Saturday at beautiful Kyle Field in College Station,TX:

http://sports.tamu.edu/sports/football/rwbphoto/

Endeavor

31 posted on 10/01/2001 4:26:51 PM PDT by Endeavor
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To: Lecie
Royce Singleton Ph. D.
Royce Singleton Ph. D.
Royce Singleton received his B.S. in psychology from Oklahoma State University in 1966 and his Ph.D. in sociology from Indiana University in 1973. Before joining the faculty at Holy Cross, he taught at the University of California, Riverside, from 1972-1977. His research and publications span social psychology, including work on group polarization and attribution theory, methodology, race relations, and undergraduate education. He is the co-author (with Bruce Straits) of Approaches to Social Research, 3rd ed. (1999) and of a chapter, "Survey Interviewing," in the forthcoming Handbook of Interviewing. Professor Singleton teaches courses primarily in social psychology and methods of social research, but also has taught race and ethnic relations and recently has offered courses in the sociology of sport.

32 posted on 10/01/2001 4:28:40 PM PDT by Spiff
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To: DallasMike
I told Prof. Singleton that his actions had offended me as an American, as a Catholic, and as a mom who had allowed two sons to be educated in Jesuit institutions. I told him that he owes the whole nation an apology. I don't expect an answer.

Oh, I closed by mentioning that I was an alum of UC Berkeley and Cardinal Stritch Universities.

33 posted on 10/01/2001 4:30:16 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Spiff
Royce A. Singleton, Jr.
Professor of Sociology

Personal Information



Department of Sociology and Anthropology
College of the Holy Cross
Worcester, MA 01610-2395
(508) 793-3474
rsinglet@holycross.edu

34 posted on 10/01/2001 4:30:44 PM PDT by Spiff
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To: Ron Fletcher
Maybe Mr Singleton prefers countries where women are enslaved.
36 posted on 10/01/2001 4:32:58 PM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: Lecie
There is nothing I can say to anybody that can explain the social context in which this occurred.

But there is, actually. In fact, it's fairly easy to articulate the stifling, lockstep anti-Americanism practiced quite openly on many, if not the majority of, American college campuses, by a faculty stuck in their self-absorbed adolescence and self-regarding, self-congratulatory conformity to what is drastically mistermed "dissent." This is the "diversity" that is worshipped, more mindless and drab than anything ever practiced in the Gray-Flannel-Suit 50s.

This is the McCarthyism of the tenure committee, and fifty years from now these little fascists will be remembered with the same horror they affect for the days of the blacklistings. And they will remain, as did their hero Alger Hiss, mendacious and unrepentant until the day they die.

37 posted on 10/01/2001 4:34:16 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Demosthenes
we Americans must never allow the discomfort of one who is not one of us to ever stop us from declaring our allegiance to our country and/or to God.

Yes.

38 posted on 10/01/2001 4:34:19 PM PDT by Jefferson Adams
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To: Lecie
,,, Royce is a parasite trying to "find himself". He may "find himself" in a place where US flags are burned if enough Americans can work it that way.
39 posted on 10/01/2001 4:34:23 PM PDT by shaggy eel
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To: Lecie
but he told her that displaying the flag would make some students uncomfortable.

---- there it is again, the insanity about people being "uncomfortable" at seeing our flag! If they're uncomfortable they should emigrate, preferably the sooner the better.

40 posted on 10/01/2001 4:34:32 PM PDT by Jay W
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To: OldFriend
No, it's not- I think you're talking about Mount Holyoke. But they're both in Massachusetts, no big surprise there.
41 posted on 10/01/2001 4:34:47 PM PDT by medic
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To: waxhaw
I have no idea what Singleton's background may be but I do know that the Marxists, Socialists and Communists have been infiltrating our universities for decades. I imagine Singleton's agenda was set back a year or two by the events of 11 September.

And there you have the heart of the matter.

42 posted on 10/01/2001 4:35:29 PM PDT by Jefferson Adams
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To: Spiff
Stephen C. Ainlay is the Vice President for Academic Affairs and Dean of the College and a Professor of Sociology. A member of the Holy Cross faculty since 1982, he received his B.A. from Goshen College (Goshen, IN) and his M.A. and Ph.D. from Rutgers University (New Brunswick, NJ). Prior to his appointment as Dean of the College, Professor Ainlay served as Director of the College’s Center for Interdisciplinary and Special Studies. He also served as Chair of the Department of Sociology and Anthropology.
http://www.holycross.edu/departments/dean/website/about.html

Stephen Ainlay  Ph. D.
Stephen Ainlay Ph. D.

43 posted on 10/01/2001 4:35:42 PM PDT by Spiff
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To: Endeavor
(Wiping away tears)-You should be very proud!

FReegards,

44 posted on 10/01/2001 4:36:33 PM PDT by VMI70
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To: Mad Dawgg
Both of my parents are from Worcestor. Makes me sick.
45 posted on 10/01/2001 4:36:40 PM PDT by RaceBannon
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To: Lecie
"...Royce Singleton, chairman of the college's Sociology Department, asked Mrs. Post, a secretary...to take it down...."

"Big Truth" contained in small fact.

"Sociology" is, by the way, a fake discipline which attracts men and women who would have, in another age, become flim-flam men and barkers at county carnivals.

46 posted on 10/01/2001 4:37:49 PM PDT by LaBelleDameSansMerci
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To: medic
Thanks, it is doubtful that there is a liberal arts college in the country that doesn't have people who despise the flag.
47 posted on 10/01/2001 4:38:26 PM PDT by OldFriend
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To: BurkeanCyclist
I KNOW A PLACE MR.SINGLETON CAN BE ALONG WITH ALL THE OTHER SUBVERSIVES AND I WOULD BE COMFORTABLE.A CAMP!
48 posted on 10/01/2001 4:39:50 PM PDT by INSENSITIVE GUY
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To: Lecie
"... There is nothing that I can say that will make anybody understand the social context in which this occurred,..."

You don't have to say anything Prof. We understand all too well....

49 posted on 10/01/2001 4:39:50 PM PDT by LaBelleDameSansMerci
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To: DallasMike
Thank you, my friend. You posted the information I was looking for a nanosecond before I posted my request for it.

I made good use of the links you provided. Here is the letter I just sent to the good Professor, since he seems to specialize in the wrongs of "group think."

Dear Professor Singleton,

I have just read on the Internet the story of your taking down a flag that an employee of Holy Cross had brought to work, in honor of her friend Todd Beamer, who lost his life saving the lives of others.

Before writing this note to you, I read your biography. It seems to me that you are imposing the views of the small group you are a member of, the Sociology Department of Holy Cross, upon others. I would expect that you would find the words to explain why you did what you did.

While you are at it, you may find the words to apologize to a lady who was honoring the memory of a friend and hero, who gave his life for his country as surely as any man or woman who has ever died on the battlefield. The American flag is a symbol of the sacrifice that all such women and men have made, as surely as the row on row of marble crosses and Stars of David, in graveyards across the world.

I look forward to hearing your response.

John Armor, former Professor of Political Science
Member of the Bar of the US Supreme Court

Post Script: I also know a litle about attitudes of "us" versus "them." One of my seven books to date was Manzanar about the internment camps in which we incarcerated Japanese-Americans without charges or trials , in World War II. We are at war again, and the tolerance of Americans of those with whom they disagree and differ, is again going to be sorely tested. I urge you to reflect on that subject before you reply.

Congressman Billybob

50 posted on 10/01/2001 4:40:04 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob
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