Avenging the flying pigs: Paul Sperry discovers how U.S. Muslims really feel

WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Tuesday, October 2, 2001 | Paul Sperry

[JohnHuang2]

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Avenging the flying pigs

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© 2001 WorldNetDaily.com

WASHINGTON – Many thanks to the more than 600 peace-loving American Muslims who have sent me hate mail – including a dozen death threats – over my Sept. 27 column, "If pigs could fly." You have helped me gather, effortlessly, valuable intelligence about the mindset of worshippers at the more than 3,000 Islamic centers and mosques across the country.

Islam-Infonet, a news service of the supposedly mainstream Council on American-Islamic Relations, carried my column. Many American Muslims -- men, women; young, old; college students and professionals; almost all of Arab origin -- linked to it from there.

Though they hardly represent the views of all the nation's 6 million or so Muslims, their venomous letters reveal anti-American biases and predispositions that don't square with the peace-loving and patriotic rhetoric mouthed by Muslim scholars and spokespeople on television.

Here is what I've learned:

• In general, Muslims living in America are in deep denial about the role their religion played in the 9-11 attacks.

  For example, one Muslim woman insisted that "Muslims did not commit these crimes," referring to the 19 Arab hijackers who left documents drawing on traditional Islamic prayers and alluding to Koranic verses. "Very confused individuals did."

• Most, but not all, doubt Osama bin Laden is behind the 9-11 attacks.

  "He has not been tried in a court," argued Lina Abusali. So under American law, "he is innocent until proven guilty."

  "Osama is only a suspect in America's mind," scoffed another. "There is no proof."

• Most do not condemn Afghanistan's ruling Taliban militia for sheltering bin Laden, and don't suspect its Islamic clerics had any involvement in the World Trade Center or Pentagon attacks.

  "Remember, it's not the Taliban that was behind the WTC attacks," claimed M. Attaulla Khan. "They had nothing against America."

• While roundly condemning me for proposing, somewhat tongue in cud, a swine offensive against Afghanistan, not one of the 600-plus American Muslims offered an alternative strategy to defeat Islamic terrorists there.

  Not one.

  In fact, some seemed more worried than offended by my porcine psyops strategy, and did their best to cast doubt on its effectiveness.

  "C'mon, man, do you think your stupid strategy will work?" said a man who signed his name, "Ahmad."

  "There are times when Muslims are allowed to eat pork," he assured me, kaffir that I am.

  "Muslims aren't afraid of eating pork or [pork] by-products," Dareen Neerad insisted. "And if Muslims eat, unknowingly, pig's meat or lard, then they just have to ask Allah's forgiveness, purify themselves and rinse out their mouths."

  Safia Naqvi swore that "Muslims aren't afraid of pigs," and suggested I ham-bone up on my Koran.

  But Karen Soud, "a loyal Muslim American," who slammed me for "hate-mongering," admitted in a ray of honesty: "You obviously researched our dietary habits thoroughly."

  Indeed, my information came from a spokeswoman for the Islamic Education Center in Potomac, Md.

• Many American Muslims actually believe the Israeli Mossad hatched the plot to strike New York and Washington, somehow enlisting Islamic extremists to carry out the evil deed, in order to drum up more American support for Israel.

  "Do you even know if it was Muslims who committed the act?" demanded an American Muslim who signed his letter, "AJM." "How about the Jews who are slaughtering innocent men, women, children, infants, sick and old in Palestine? Why not write an article about them?"

  This fellow and other faithful seem to be singing from the same hymnal as bin Laden, who also has fingered Jews for the attacks.

• Muslims in this country assert that Islam is a "peaceful religion," as one Muslim woman put it, that "absolutely does not tolerate violence." Many quoted President Bush's recent comments to that effect.

  Gee, I wish someone would fill in hot-head Muhammad Khan. He apparently skipped over the more soothing suras in his Koran.

  "Maybe we could grind up your filthy, pathetic body and feed it to the pigs before we send them to the Muslims," Khan wrote me. "You should watch your back from now on. Maybe these 'Islamic fundamentalists' could come after you and your family."

  Or Zaafir Mahdi: "Since you are a swine, we will cut you open and drain you of blood, and then the U.S. military can use that if they wish."

  Or this peace-loving guy: "I'm surprised that such an anti-Muslim lives. Now you know what needs to be done to anti-Muslims. They deserve to die."

  Then there was this sweetheart: "No Muslim would mind to kill a bastard like you."

  Others who aren't into murdering columnists just likened me to Hitler.

  But the coup de grace came from a guy who compared me to "Bay Watch" actor David Hasselhoff – the ultimate insult. After seeing my column mug, he dismissed me as a Hasselhoff knock-off and said I should go "run down the beach with your little red shorts and fake tan."

  Ouch.

All this because I proposed a nonviolent (at least to humans) way to quickly win the war on terrorism, one with no risk of collateral casualties to women and children. Pigs may not like it. But, hey, they're short-timing it anyway with Thanksgiving and Christmas approaching.

You'd think American Muslims would want to avenge the deaths of their 6,000-plus fellow Americans. But they seem more interested in honoring and guarding ancient customs, even on behalf of known terrorists half way around the world.

• More disturbing, many of them consider America a terrorist nation.

  "Don't get me started on all the countries the U.S. has bombed for money or (out of) political ignorance, and then said it was justifiable," fumed one Muslim man. "But when someone else does it here, they are terrorists."

  "These hijackers did not hate Americans," wrote another U.S. Muslim. "They hated the (American) foreign policy. And many nations don't agree with the policy, even many Americans."

• American Muslims are far prouder of their growing sect than their country.

  "I don't need to remind you that there are 1.3 billion Muslims in the world, including over 7 million in North America, and that Islam is the fastest-growing religion in the world," boasted a Muslim woman.

  (Given that virtually all foreign terrorists who attack the West are Muslims, that actually may be more cause for alarm than celebration.)

  "Before I am an American, I am a Muslim," declared the man with the initials, AJM.

  Such a statement coming now, after what has just happened, is chilling. It smacks of divided loyalty. Indeed, American Muslims seem to be straddling two worlds – one of wealth, freedom and security here, and one of cultural identity with their brethren in the Middle East.

But America's security vaporized Sept. 11 with the twin towers, and its wealth and freedom aren't far behind, thanks to the terrorists who attacked us in the name of Allah.

Will Americans of Islamic faith help us get our security back, or will they secretly sympathize with the jihad waged by the murderous thieves who took it?

It may not be a choice of country over faith, but it most certainly is – like no time since the British terrorized Washington 187 years ago – a matter of patriotism.

American Muslims must ask themselves: Do I love and respect my country?

If the answer is yes, then fight with us for her. If no, stop pretending to love and respect her. Have the courage to publicly renounce your citizenship and join the enemy.

Related columns:

If pigs could fly ...

Please, Mr. Bush, no Basrah this time

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[Green Knight]

"You're either with us, or you're with the terrorists."

[xinga]

bump

[river rat]

The more I hear from muslims, the less I care for their sensibilities and the more I distrust them..
They truly seem to have a religion that teaches hate against non-muslims
The silence from their clerics in criticism of the terrorists is DEAFENING.....
I keep hearing what a peace loving people and religion they are -- but no physical evidence.

EVERYWHERE muslims live in proximity to other religions - there seems to be serious trouble. Would some muslim care to comment or explain why this is so?
Semper Fi

[truth_seeker]

People who have been proven expert, by their warnings of events like the WTC/Pentagon attacks, warn us of hundred, probably thousands of "sleepers" in our midst.

We should be on high alert, for too many of these "peaceful" Muslims have no allegiance to America. Look up the word "Taqija"; a Muslim justification for lying. It should not surprise us later, if we are attacked from within, again.

[Terrorista Nada]

Lock and load and be ready in your neighborhood.

[jrewingjr]

Black Sabbath "War Pigs" bump.

[beekeeper]

The evidence that the FBI is gathering from tracking the money trail, tracking the support trail, and counting student pilots, is not pointing to bin Laden, it's pointing in another direction entirely. That's what grassroots muslim leaders are being told by the FBI agents they're talking with, all over the country.

Not what is being broadcast over the radio and in print. The money trail is leading directly to him. So my guess is the Muslim leaders are spreading disinformation, which is frightening. I was fairly openminded about this until your statemant, now I have serious misgivings about their loyality.

[Don Joe]

"For example, I wonder what he would say if some liberal joked about force-feeding Dr. Laura a ham sandwich or contaminating her water supply with pig's blood. I have a feeling that it wouldn't be all fun and games anymore, and that he would call it religious bigotry."

Ask me again after she firebombs NYC killing thousands of Americans and then declares war on us.

Oh, for an IGNORE feature on FR...

[Don Joe]

"The silence from their clerics in criticism of the terrorists is DEAFENING....."

Wanna hear a shocker?

There's one muslim leader who stood up for the US.

It was Louie Farrakhan!

Of course, the uberislamics don't consider the Nation of Islam to be real muslims, so I guess it doesn't count after all.

[HiTech RedNeck]

ankabiter sounds like a psyop for bin Laden

[HiTech RedNeck]

Imagine that -- among them all, Farrakhan had the most decency. FRIGHTENING.

[WolfsView]

Dr. Laura, or Israel did not prompt terrorists to fly planes into a building killing 6000+ people. If I thought for a second that Israel was behind this I would be calling for their blood. I could care less about their race or religion it's their politics and "kill all Americans" attitute that makes me want to wipe them (terrorists) from the face of the earth.

[dennisw]

A lousy one at that. These termites always have an excuse for worldwide Muslim madness and aggression

[vrwc54]

BTTT

[father_elijah]

Oh, Spidey, your defense of Islam is wearing very thin.

[father_elijah]

The evidence that the FBI is gathering from tracking the money trail, tracking the support trail, and counting student pilots, is not pointing to bin Laden, it's pointing in another direction entirely. That's what grassroots muslim leaders are being told by the FBI agents they're talking with, all over the country.

Your disinformation about where the money leads is a most telling bit of nonsense.

Have a READ HERE>

[FrogMom]

There's a lot more than 600 talking with the FBI. I don't think any of them sent you anything ...

The Clerics need to publicly denounce this action loudly and often. The Clerics who never attended and spoke in support at Hamas gatherings. We talked about this yesterday, still holds true.

Bless you and God AND Allah bless America,
FM

[TKEman]

Well, I've grown tired of hearing about all these moderate Muslims. Where is the fatwa against Mr. bin Laden and his followers? Why aren't the moderates ponying up to the bar, and issuing the fatwa? Constantly we are told that these guys don't represent Islam, and that Islam is a peaceful religion.

I recall in the 1980's, while an undergrad, constantly hearing about how the Communist government in the Soviet Union wasn't "really" and truly a Marxist government. I say that reality dictates, in both instances, something else.

Islam is, in reality, represented by the people who are Islamic. What they do and say is the reality of Islam. Just as Marxism was exactly what Lenin and Stalin did. You can say that what's written down is different, but the reality is what is in the hearts and minds of adherents.

[mmmmmmmm....... donuts]

and what direction is that?

Itbach al-Qaeda!

[TKEman]

The evidence that the FBI is gathering from tracking the money trail, tracking the support trail, and counting student pilots, is not pointing to bin Laden, it's pointing in another direction entirely. That's what grassroots muslim leaders are being told by the FBI agents they're talking with, all over the country.

Strange. All the news web sites aren't reporting this. Care to elaborate on this?

[veronica]

Bump.

[HiTech RedNeck]

It's the Moderate Muslim answer to Tinfoil. Perhaps we could call it Falafel Wrappers???

[HiTech RedNeck]

"Moderate Muslim"

[Publius6961]

"He has not been tried in a court," argued Lina Abusali. So under American law, "he is innocent until proven guilty."

Strange how these people embrace a primitive violent religion that loathes everything this country stands for but...

The are here, they enjoy the fruits of our imperfect system, and are able to quote our own laws and principles back to us even as they are busy undermining and destroying...

[Publius6961]

"Maybe we could grind up your filthy, pathetic body and feed it to the pigs before we send them to the Muslims," Khan wrote me. "You should watch your back from now on. Maybe these 'Islamic fundamentalists' could come after you and your family."

They are not very consistent about the "loving peaceful compassionate" bit are they.

[Publius6961]

"These hijackers did not hate Americans," wrote another U.S. Muslim. "They hated the (American) foreign policy. And many nations don't agree with the policy, even many Americans."

And they play our domestic "useful idiots" like violins...
And many still refuse to see it.

[TrueBeliever9]

>>>>American Muslims are far prouder of their growing sect than their country.

"I don't need to remind you that there are 1.3 billion Muslims in the world, including over 7 million in North America, and that Islam is the fastest-growing religion in the world," boasted a Muslim woman.

(Given that virtually all foreign terrorists who attack the West are Muslims, that actually may be more cause for alarm than celebration.)

"Before I am an American, I am a Muslim," declared the man with the initials, AJM.

Such a statement coming now, after what has just happened, is chilling. It smacks of divided loyalty. Indeed, American Muslims seem to be straddling two worlds – one of wealth, freedom and security here, and one of cultural identity with their brethren in the Middle East.

[Publius6961]

Congratulations! I sent out 700 letters to mosques in 1972, asking for Islamic literature, and got five replies -- you seem to have set a record of some kind here, with 600 replies from America's eleven million muslims. What is that -- five thousandths of one percent? Or using the "official" fudged figures of seven million muslims, that would be eight thousandths of one percent?

Thank you for demonstrating your firm grasp of how the number of responses on any issue represents the actual percentage of people disagreeing on the issue.

So you conclude or attempt to imply that all the others agree with him.
How droll...

[TightSqueeze]

For example, I wonder what he would say if some liberal joked about force-feeding Dr. Laura a ham sandwich or contaminating her water supply with pig's blood. I have a feeling that it wouldn't be all fun and games anymore, and that he would call it religious bigotry.

Thoughts anyone???

If Dr. Laura or terrorism against America were connected to a political group of orthodox Jews the response would be the same. Those who attacked America must be dehumanized so that we may deliver the proper response. If we are to eliminate the Taliban they must be looked upon as vermin, a better analogy is the cockroach, not only useless to humanity but detrimental to its health.

Whatever we do, in doing so we must display to the rest of the vermin, who might exist elsewhere, the consequences of attacking America.

[Prodigal Daughter]

Did I hear you say "David Duke"?

[Tuscaloosa Goldfinch]

bump

[Luis Gonzalez]

Memoirs of a Banana Republican: 

Jimmy’s Flag

Click on the Flag.

[jimt]

"These hijackers did not hate Americans," wrote another U.S. Muslim. "They hated the (American) foreign policy. And many nations don't agree with the policy, even many Americans."

But the problem is, they didn't kill "foreign policy" - they killed 6,000 civilians.

[prambo]

"That's what grassroots muslim leaders are being told by the FBI agents they're talking with, all over the country."

Sorry for the vulgarity, but -

PIG-SH!T!

Right, the FBI are whispering sweet nothings in the clerics ears.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Muslims have to get with the program here in the USA, or leave. This country was not founded to be immigrated to, and then changed by the immigrants to look like their homeland.

The USA IS now the homeland, and although we are incredibly diverse, WE ARE AMERICANS!

Muslims had better learn this simple lesson, learn it soon, and learn it well. Muslims will NOT change this country to discomfit me (VietNam vet), my Father (WWII vet), or anyone else I know. It is not within the purview of any new citizens, nor has it ever been.

prambo

[MissAmericanPie]

I was just posting on another thread that a muslim "expert" on Fox News was saying that only about 25% of the mosques in the USofA are pretty much radical fundamentalist, that would be 750 of the 3,000 mosques and that only about 250,000 of the 10 million muslims here in the USofA hold to fundamentalist ideas.

That is a potential of about 12,500 terrorist cells if there are about 20 to a cell. Even if you assume that half with radical leanings would never act on them that still leaves a potential 6,250..feel better now?

[marsis]

So I take it you would have a BIG problem with any Christian who proclaimed they were a Christian before they were an American.

[Cvengr]

In a millenium or so these times will present a good reason why Satan even though loosed for a short time, will still be doomed to the everlasting Pit.

[MissAmericanPie]

To better days...a toast

[tractorman]

Whether the media or anybody else admits it,
this is a religious war and we need to hit them
where it hurts - with their own religion.

Crank up those hog farms in Iowa 'cause all's fair in love and war.

[prambo]

"That is a potential of about 12,500 terrorist cells if there are about 20 to a cell. Even if you assume that half with radical leanings would never act on them that still leaves a potential 6,250..feel better now?"

Time to hit the reloading bench with a vengeance, so to speak.

prambo

[Doc Savage]

I said it from the outset but was set upon by the usual suspects: Libya, Sudan, Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq, Pakistan, Eygpt and Syria should be vaporized. It will eventually come down to them or us. I say exterminate these vermin now or watch the next generation of Muslims both inside and outside this country destroy us. In one millisecond they would switch there professed allegiance to the USA if the tide turned.

Deport all MUSLIMS now. Destroy Mecca. Destroy every Islamic temple in this country. Do it now, or we are doomed to spend the rest of our lives living in fear and tragedy. They will never give up until they slit your own throat with a box cutter.

If you think the terror is all over, you haven't seen anything yet, and neither have your children. American Muslims are not Americans, they're Muslims first, foremost and forever. If the tide starts to turn in their favor you will see these foul-smelling vermin switch sides in a heartbeat,...yours!!

[Re-electNobody]

The gift that keeps on giving- from Ted Kennedy and his fellow legislators that saw fit to change our immigration laws in 1965. Prior to that, I believe we allowed in 250,000 a year, most of European background. Now the sky is the limit, including several hundred thousands Muslims who do not share our ideas on separation of church and state. The wonders of diversity- and all the tensions between groups we see today.