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Tribute to Herb Meadows, aka "CHIEF negotiator"
Americans for Fair Taxation ^ | 10/04/2001 | Barbara Gould

Posted on 10/04/2001 3:52:42 PM PDT by Taxman

Thread III

Last night, Herb Meadows' life was abruptly taken by an unexpected fire in his home.

We are blessed with our association with Herb Meadows as our Internet Campaign Manager and friend. Herb blessed the lives of everyone he touched as a devoted husband, father, grandfather, political activist, and United States Marine.

Herb was part of something much bigger than most of us ever get an opportunity to experience.

Herb Meadows embodied the passion and the commitment that has made America great. We have all suffered a loss by his passing, and yet we were fortunate to be blessed by his passion and commitment. In his work, he brought hope for change and inspired us to make a difference for our country.

At Americans for Fair Taxation, it was our privilege briefly to glimpse the love for our country and the commitment to excellence thatcharacterize Herb. Our gratitude for that experience cannot be expressed in words.

We would like to take this opportunity to say thank you, Herb, for the passion, the courage, and the principle, that you exhibited, not just on a daily basis, but on a continuing, moment-to-moment basis.

It is this passion and dedication that will inspire us in the future.

It is the model of your tenacity that will help us in moments when self-doubt threatens to overcome our commitment.

Thank you, Herb, and may we honor you by continuing your work in making the river of myriad voices seeking fundamental improvement in our country flow swifter and faster than even you dreamed possible.

Thank you for touching our lives in a most extraordinary way.

Barbara Gould
Americans for Fair Taxation
1-888-786-7104 x120


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To: Mudboy Slim
MUD, Chief was the best.

I just have to say, however - if I'd known his first name was "Herb" I'd have given him a lot more shit around here! ;^)

201 posted on 10/05/2001 4:16:30 AM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: Registered
Great job, my FRiend...MUD
202 posted on 10/05/2001 4:20:46 AM PDT by Mudboy Slim
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To: ArneFufkin
"...if I'd known his first name was "Herb" I'd have given him a lot more shit around here! ;^)"

LOL...CHIEF woullda got a chuckle outta that. I've met a lot of great folks in my various FReeps and the CHIEF wasn't one of them...I'm very sad about that. Now, I really wish I wouldda gone to the FReeper Ball last January...you never know when yer next chance is gonna be to meet that many great folks in one weekend!!

So...when are you and me gonna argue in person?!

FReegards...MUD

203 posted on 10/05/2001 4:25:32 AM PDT by Mudboy Slim
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To: Registered
That Beautiful tribute to the Chief, (Herb) brought tears to my eyes! You always do wonderful work!

Life is so short and unexpected, I think we all have learned that lesson very hard on Sept 11th, and now with what happened to the Chief, a much beloved poster here....

We all should try to honor him by making every moment count, Love our Country, be tough but take time to find humor when things are tough.

204 posted on 10/05/2001 4:31:24 AM PDT by SunnyUsa
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To: dutchess, All,Taxman,Gracey
"How many of us read his post about being turned down from reinlisting last night?."

Turned down? Chief just got accepted in an Higher Corps. I can just see the Angel High-fives.

205 posted on 10/05/2001 4:54:36 AM PDT by BellStar
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To: Mudboy Slim
If CHIEF used his real first name "Herb" as his screen name, he would have been a lot more popular with the Libertarians around here, if you know what I mean! WINK WINK.

I was always interested in tax reform, even when the details of the Clinton Club Hedonism was irresistable to follow. It seemed like the threads about tax reform were just too vanilla for most here when GIF animations of Janet Reno criss-crossing our nation lovingly with Donna Shalala were so readily handy. But man ... pigdog, CHIEF, taxman, COB1 and a few others were a wealth of info about the pros and cons of implementing flat and/or sales tax systems, reducing capital gains etc, what was happening (or not) regarding these proposals in Congress, what we should do etc. Real stuff. The info they'd provide here I'd cut and paste and send to my Rep JIm Ramstad, who was on the Ways and Means Committe in the House. Important stuff, that unfortunately not enough of us got behind to stem the tide, even under a GOP Congressional helm, of an increasingly complex and onerous system. Too bad for us.

CHIEF took this issue very seriously, because he understood that a meaningful reform of our Tax Law was the first, and most important, step to recovering our individual rights and freedoms. Defund the bastards, and the bastards melt away. We talked about eliminating employer withholding, forcing the zombies to write a biweekly check to the gubment, and the tax revolt that would soon occur.

We agreed that when the tax bills reached conference, we were going to start a bloodless coup, temporarily seizing Senate GOP doormats and installing the new CHIEF Negotiator to help move Archer's plan. And, we'd install a guy named "Pigdog" too, just so Rangel had a peer.

Some things in life, MUD, have no upside.

206 posted on 10/05/2001 5:00:29 AM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub
He was one of the first FReepers I recognized daily and made wonderfully insightful contributions to this site. He will be sorely missed.

Thoughts and prayers are with his wife, family, and friends. May time and the knowledge that he is at peace make the pain of loss bearable for all.

207 posted on 10/05/2001 5:03:58 AM PDT by SusanUSA
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To: Mudboy Slim
So...when are you and me gonna argue in person?!

How about when the Packers travel to Jack Kent Cooke stadium in January 2002 for the NFC Wild Card game? ^;) I'd shake your hand and buy you a cocktail anytime MUD.

208 posted on 10/05/2001 5:12:24 AM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: ArneFufkin
"...when the Packers travel to Jack Kent Cooke stadium in January 2002 for the NFC Wild Card game?"

That would work except I don't believe there will be but two wild cards this year due to the lost week. Plus, the Skins will win their Division, as the Packers may as well. After the Pack's great start, I can't believe yer projectin' them as Wild Cards!! SHEEESH...what kinda fans are y'all CheeseHeads?!

LOL...MUD

209 posted on 10/05/2001 5:29:33 AM PDT by Mudboy Slim
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To: ArneFufkin
"Some things in life, MUD, have no upside."

Yep...MUD

210 posted on 10/05/2001 5:30:17 AM PDT by Mudboy Slim
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To: Mr_Magoo
Thanks so much -- that page is very vital to all of us -- WE WILL NEVER FORGET THE IMPACT OF EACH OF THESE!

I love that reminder, it gives me pause to re-energize my own flagging faith in the future to reflect upon those people and their words and deeds.

Reading their names -- brings back the special "traits" of each and reminds me that we are only here for a specified time and that these FReepers did make the very most of and the very best of their time.

I don't know how -- but I am able to "hear" their written words ... remember their special causes and "reaquaint myself" with each of them by going to that wall.
211 posted on 10/05/2001 6:59:45 AM PDT by AKA Elena
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub
Thanks fer the bump...the CHIEF will be sorely missed!!

Sad FReegards...MUD

212 posted on 10/05/2001 7:18:40 AM PDT by Mudboy Slim
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To: ArneFufkin
"I'd shake your hand and buy you a cocktail anytime MUD."

The sentiment is mutual, mi amigo...MUD

213 posted on 10/05/2001 7:20:09 AM PDT by Mudboy Slim
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub
I'll add - yet another sad ping for a departed Marine
214 posted on 10/05/2001 7:40:15 AM PDT by ChaseR
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To: Mudboy Slim
After the Pack's great start, I can't believe yer projectin' them as Wild Cards!!

My fault, MUD, I didn't make myself clear. After the Packers shut out the Rams in the NFC Championship game at Lambeau Field - I'll buy you copius Hurricanes at Pat O'Brien's in Celebration of the Green and Gold's SuperDome shut out of the Raiders for their FOURTH Super Bowl title, and the 350th overall championship of their storied history. We had Lombardi you know. I'm sorry if you misunderstood my original statement.

215 posted on 10/05/2001 7:50:27 AM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: ArneFufkin
"After the Packers shut out the Rams in the NFC Championship game at Lambeau Field..."

Ohhh...hmmm, so you've got the NFC Eastern Champs--the Washington Redskins--losing to the Rams in the first round?! With Smoot, Bailey, and Green at corner, we actually match up pretty well with the St. Louis "O"...we'll see, won't we?!

FReegards...MUD

216 posted on 10/05/2001 7:59:43 AM PDT by Mudboy Slim
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To: lewislynn
Thank you, lewislynn, for your kind words.

What you have to understand is that the "back and forth" that you, the CHIEF, pigdog, I and all the others engaged in was not personal, it was business. We, for the most part, could agree to disagree without being disagreeable.

What is tragic about all of this is that we have lost one of FReedom's true warriors, and his shoes will be very hard to fill. But fill them we will!

And, lewis, pretty soon we'll be debating taxes again. On that, you can go to the bank.

Appreciate your comments.

“I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.”
[Thomas Jefferson, letter to Benjamin Rush, 1800.]

Scrap the Code! Scrap the IRS! Abolish the VLWC!

We will never be a truly FRee people so long as we have the income tax and the IRS.

217 posted on 10/05/2001 7:59:45 AM PDT by Taxman
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To: Taxman
OK, folks, lets all move to Thread Four!
218 posted on 10/05/2001 8:03:00 AM PDT by Taxman
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To: ClancyJ
Thanks for posting this, I'm not even a southerner, but it really burns me when one of our local Leftist-elitist ignorant turds tries to put down the South.
219 posted on 10/05/2001 8:33:25 AM PDT by editor-surveyor
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub
this is the saddest fall in all my years. i pray he's in the Lord's presence now and ask the the Comforter be with his family. CHIEF's contributions to america will never be forgotten.
220 posted on 10/05/2001 10:30:55 AM PDT by Anonymous2
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To: Taxman
You are in our prayers, Chief. God bless and keep you. Semper Fidelis, Mike
221 posted on 10/05/2001 10:33:21 AM PDT by HEFFERNAN2
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To: To All
CHIEF negotiator victim of arson fire, Burial services Monday, Oct. 8, 1:00 P.M.
222 posted on 10/05/2001 5:34:19 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub
Thanks for the ping, friend. Sad to say, I was there for thread 1 and heard the heartbreaking news early on. I'm now awaiting funeral arrangement information so I can alert Houston FReepers who want to attend.
223 posted on 10/05/2001 7:06:38 PM PDT by Humidston
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To: Taxman
The Chief was an honourable debator. No matter whether you held with his position or held against it, he always granted you the right to hold your position and took for granted that you held it honestly. We have lost a true friend - but so long as we keep him in our hearts, he will never be far away from us!
224 posted on 10/05/2001 7:11:26 PM PDT by BluesDuke
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To: Taxman ; Jim Robinson
Taxman , my dear friend. Thank you so much for your post # 73.I agree with what you did and thank you Jim Robinson so much.
226 posted on 10/05/2001 7:58:44 PM PDT by Snow Bunny
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To: Registered
Thank you so much Re3gistered.
227 posted on 10/05/2001 8:02:23 PM PDT by Snow Bunny
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To: All
Thread VI.

"CHIEF negotiator's funeral arrangements, time/place"

228 posted on 10/06/2001 8:29:29 AM PDT by Taxman
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To: 2Fro
Ping.
229 posted on 01/23/2002 4:54:24 PM PST by Slip18
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