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History Lesson: Effective Use of Swine Against Islamic Jihad
Vendyl Jones Research Institutes | January 2001 | Vendyl Jones

Posted on 10/05/2001 6:42:31 AM PDT by JeepInMazar

"In the years preceding World War I, General John J. 'Black Jack" Pershing was commander of the American forces in the Philippines.

The small Moslem community on the island nation began to wreak havoc against the Philippine government and American forces.

The American troops captured a large group of these terrorists. During the interrogation by the Military Court, the fanatics were heard to repeatedly shout, 'Allah Achbar! Allah Achbar! Jihad!

The Philippines are the lands of Islam!' Pershing ordered the Amalekites executed one by one in the presence of the whole group. (The author is referring to the prophecy in the Bible that the Amalekites would be a very vicious and war like people down through history.)

Moslems will not eat pork believing that no one could enter Paradise if there is even the smallest amount of swine flesh in their bodies.

 Knowing this, the General first ordered the firing squad to shoot large hogs.

After they skinned the swine, the executioners rolled their bullets in pork fat and passed fat through the barrels of their rifles while the condemned watched.

As each condemned terrorist was executed, his corpse was wrapped in hog's skin and buried on the spot.

The entrails of the swine were dumped over the corpse before the grave was covered.

Three of the convicted Amalekites were released to take the news back to their Islamic Communities.

That ended the Islamic Jihad in the Philippines.

Terrorist incidents from Islamic Fundamentalists were unheard of until a decade ago when the U.S. State Department recognized the PLO as legitimate 'Freedom Fighters' "

(Vendyl Jones, RESEARCHER [Arlington, Texas: Vendyl Jones Research Institutes, January 2001]: 20).


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1 posted on 10/05/2001 6:42:31 AM PDT by JeepInMazar
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To: JeepInMazar
Mega-bump!!

Alternatively, G. Gordon Liddy once sugggested, years ago, sending Islamic terrorist's/soldier's

"heads back [to their families] in the belly of a pig,"

which would "prevent them from entering the Kingdom of Heaven."

(Must be another part of the Koran.)

2 posted on 10/05/2001 6:48:45 AM PDT by FReethesheeples
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To: JeepInMazar
All these type threads have been pulled previously

It appears this just isnt an option anymore

not politically correct, and inhumane to the pigs I guess.

3 posted on 10/05/2001 6:48:51 AM PDT by Gasshog
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To: Gasshog
i'll bump it. if it works, do it.
4 posted on 10/05/2001 6:52:15 AM PDT by Principled
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To: JeepInMazar
Good grief, a novel idea like that could lead to victory or something how insensitive or PC. Far better to bombard them with yellow, smiley face packets of rice.
5 posted on 10/05/2001 6:54:06 AM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: JeepInMazar
and another bump - great idea
6 posted on 10/05/2001 6:55:38 AM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: Gasshog
All these type threads have been pulled previously

I hope this doesn't get pulled. This is a serious post with a clear example from our history as to what was done one time. This is information people should have as they consider effective responses to Islamic jihad.

7 posted on 10/05/2001 6:56:05 AM PDT by JeepInMazar
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To: JeepInMazar
Very efficient!!

We're at war.

We need to look at such gently unconventioal means to stoping the terrrorists, ONLY IF we wish to end the reign of terror against American citizens & all civilization.

These turkeys will be just as dead as they need to be, and the message will be delivered.

Unfortunately, the way so-called

"Civil Libertarians" (so-called),

the pseudo-"Pacificists",

the Left,

Lawyers,

Academic America Haters,

the Courts,

the Media,

and the UN-"P.C. crowd" are going we will ALL be DEAD before they ppull their thumbs out of the wrong part of their anatomy and stops talking about this a s a Legal and Encounter_Group "touchy-feely" exercise!

It would HELP to first, simply,

DECLARE WAR!

8 posted on 10/05/2001 6:56:42 AM PDT by FReethesheeples
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To: JeepInMazar
Very efficient!!

We're at war.

We need to look at such gently unconventioal means to stoping the terrrorists, ONLY IF we wish to end the reign of terror against American citizens & all civilization.

These turkeys will be just as dead as they need to be, and the message will be delivered.

Unfortunately, the way so-called

"Civil Libertarians" (so-called),

the pseudo-"Pacificists",

the Left,

Lawyers,

Academic America Haters,

the Courts,

the Media,

and the UN-"P.C. crowd" are going we will ALL be DEAD before they ppull their thumbs out of the wrong part of their anatomy and stops talking about this a s a Legal and Encounter_Group "touchy-feely" exercise!

It would HELP to first, simply,

DECLARE WAR!

9 posted on 10/05/2001 6:56:42 AM PDT by FReethesheeples
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To: MissAmericanPie
Our luck PETA would put a stop to this as having a terrorists head in disembowled belly would be seen as abuse.
10 posted on 10/05/2001 6:57:31 AM PDT by pikachu
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To: Gasshog
Absolutely!
11 posted on 10/05/2001 6:58:08 AM PDT by FReethesheeples
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To: FReethesheeples
Maybe after a couple o' million of our countrymen are dead from some horrfic attack the "pig warfare" will commenence.

But I aint holding my breath.

12 posted on 10/05/2001 7:01:34 AM PDT by Gasshog
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To: JeepInMazar
Is this a true story, for sure? Who is Vendyl Jones?

I know about the fighting and the 'Moros' in Philippines, but this story has my 'Urban Legend' antennae twitching....

13 posted on 10/05/2001 7:03:29 AM PDT by Cogadh na Sith
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To: pikachu
Our luck PETA would put a stop to this as having a terrorists head in disembowled belly would be seen as abuse.

Plus it would keep the pig from getting into Heaven.

14 posted on 10/05/2001 7:04:06 AM PDT by BikerTrash
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To: JeepInMazar
I don't know about this story. I'm sure some branches of the Islamic faith may believe this, but does the branch we are fighting believe this?
15 posted on 10/05/2001 7:05:12 AM PDT by RightWingFreedomFighter
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To: JeepInMazar
I wonder if I should invest in some pork bellies?
16 posted on 10/05/2001 7:07:26 AM PDT by MistrX
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To: JeepInMazar
Yes, Yes ....I have been the lone voice calling for carpet bombing with pigs for months now! Visualize our B52's Loaded with millions of "the other white meat". Pork bellies would go through the roof! Farmers would prosper and just get the mental image of pigs falling from 30,000 feet. I get goosebumps just thinking about these brave American Porkers giving their all for our Great Nation! I know, I know.... it's brutal, but this is war! No?
17 posted on 10/05/2001 7:12:22 AM PDT by bluecollarman
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To: pikachu
Ooops, we can't offend PETA, --- or NAMBLA -- for that matter, can we?

;^)

Good point, & FReegards,

18 posted on 10/05/2001 7:15:52 AM PDT by FReethesheeples
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To: Gasshog
Maybe then...
19 posted on 10/05/2001 7:16:32 AM PDT by FReethesheeples
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To: Gasshog
Maybe then...
20 posted on 10/05/2001 7:16:33 AM PDT by FReethesheeples
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To: chookter
This is true. I read about this many years ago in a military history class. Another true fact. The Moros had fanatics that they tied their testicles in rawhide. They let the rawhide shrink. It drove these guys absolutely insane. They gave them machetes to attack U.S. soldiers. The conflict with the Moros is why the USA replaced the .38 revolvers with the 1911 Colt .45 ACP, BTW.
21 posted on 10/05/2001 7:16:40 AM PDT by wjcsux
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To: RightWingFreedomFighter
In searching my Islamic sources, I see that a effective Jihad is waged by confounding and tricking the enemy. Thus, these terrorists who committed these acts of war were justified in going to topless bars and drinking, etc. However, I've yet to see that any Muslim would touch a pig in order to confound his enemy!
22 posted on 10/05/2001 7:17:22 AM PDT by JeepInMazar
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To: JeepInMazar
Brilliant!! I hope some of the president's advisors are reading FR!
23 posted on 10/05/2001 7:20:10 AM PDT by sweetliberty
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To: chookter
this story has my 'Urban Legend' antennae twitching....

Yes, I agree. However, it was sent to me by a trusted friend who has been in the military. It was sent to him by someone working on his Masters degree at the Joint Military Intelligence College.

24 posted on 10/05/2001 7:20:31 AM PDT by JeepInMazar
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To: bluecollarman
F-16 ....pork crop-dusters
25 posted on 10/05/2001 7:23:27 AM PDT by Zon
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To: wjcsux
If we are not allowed to do these things anymore, we could sub it out to the Russians. They are known for sending our spies back to family members in package-size pieces.
26 posted on 10/05/2001 7:24:03 AM PDT by eno_
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To: chookter
A historian friend of mine tells me the British used to do something very similar to this. IIRC, condemned jihadists were frequently wrapped in pigskins by the Brits then shot, the bloody pigskins removed and wrapped around the next group of jihadists who were then also shot, etc., until all scheduled executions for the day were done with. Making sure there were Moslem witnesses was crucial to the scheme . . . Very effective.

My friend did tell me however that unlike his ancestors, a modern moslem would just laugh at this treatment; islamic theologians have since identified a Koranic out for any devout moslem killed in this way.

But who knows? I'd like to see it tried on a massive scale anyway. We seem to be dealing with quite primitive minds here.

27 posted on 10/05/2001 7:24:09 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: JeepInMazar
We have 58 million head of swine in the USA...ample amount for carcuses to accompany deceased terrorists on their journey to Hell!
28 posted on 10/05/2001 7:24:40 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: JeepInMazar
Something we should consider.
29 posted on 10/05/2001 7:25:36 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush
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To: Zon
"pork crop-dusters"

good one! Lol :-)

30 posted on 10/05/2001 7:26:21 AM PDT by bluecollarman
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To: LibWhacker
I promise you, no Muslim wants to take the chance of getting whacked by a falling pig.
31 posted on 10/05/2001 7:29:16 AM PDT by bluecollarman
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To: JeepInMazar
Oh,... I thought this was a repeat thread about Baldwin wanting to go to Afghanistan.
32 posted on 10/05/2001 7:30:23 AM PDT by sayfer bullets
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To: LibWhacker
, a modern moslem would just laugh at this treatment; islamic theologians have since identified a Koranic out for any devout moslem killed in this way.

Then the whole book is a joke

Of course we knew that anyway.

If you read the thread about Atta's last will and testament Id say that he was pretty particular about how he wanted to be handle after death, concerned about uncleaness etc...

33 posted on 10/05/2001 7:30:25 AM PDT by Gasshog
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To: bluecollarman
Time to load our cruise misiles with SPAM
34 posted on 10/05/2001 7:32:25 AM PDT by Smedley
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To: JeepInMazar
Wesley Pruden: How to break hearts and bend minds
35 posted on 10/05/2001 7:38:21 AM PDT by B Knotts
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To: JeepInMazar

36 posted on 10/05/2001 7:39:01 AM PDT by lowbridge
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To: Smedley
This may give the saying "When Pigs Fly" a whole new meaning. I like that spam idea! How about throwing in a few chitterlings (chittlins')?. Hey... let's don't forget to rub them down with fatback!
37 posted on 10/05/2001 7:40:08 AM PDT by bluecollarman
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To: JeepInMazar
The question is in this political-correct world, does this country and its allies have the guts to do what it takes to stop these Islamic maniacs? If the word crusade and term infinite justice are off-limits, than one would have to think using swine would be as well.
38 posted on 10/05/2001 7:40:14 AM PDT by Ol' Sparky
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To: JeepInMazar
Here's more on this info, posted right here at Free Republic (Warning: Contains Humor That May Be Offensive to Islamic Terrorists)

HOW TO DEFEAT ISLAMIC TERRORISM WORLDWIDE

Cheers!

39 posted on 10/05/2001 7:44:08 AM PDT by Stallone
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To: Stallone
My Favorite pic......


29 Posted on 09/30/2001 19:15:56 PDT by Jefferson Adams
thread

40 posted on 10/05/2001 7:59:22 AM PDT by bluecollarman
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To: JeepInMazar
Cool! Only problem is, such executions are not possible today. However, we would "warn" the Taliban that we're using pig grease and will bury their dead with hog rot on top of them.
41 posted on 10/05/2001 8:00:10 AM PDT by DallasDeb
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To: JeepInMazar
During the years of the British Mandate over Palestine (1918-1948), the Brits eventually figured out a way to discourage (altho it wasn't 100% effective) Arab suicide terrorism was to stop the funeral procession with British troops, forcibly open the coffin, and wrap the corpse in pigskin.

A few years ago, some Israeli was proposing a special rifle bullet made with pig blood as a deterrent to Arab rioters. Evidently this proposal was shelved, possibly because of the manufacturing expense (but, if it were up to me, I would figure that using silver bullets was cost-effective if using them in one riot prevented two or three more from happening).

Since American foreign/military aid to Israel has a requirement that Israel spend much of the money on US-made supplies or equipment, I suggested that the Israeli Army use some of that money - and Very Openly and with much publicity - filling up warehouses with canned Spam - in storage as food for POWs in future wars.

(A technical note: Jews are forbidden only eating pigs, but can wear pig leather and use pig heart valves in surgery and pig insulin for diabetes, etc., but Moslems are forbidden any contact at all with any part of a pig ... and are so jazzed about it that in some Arab countries they have gone through toy stores destroying Winnie-the-Pooh stuff that includes Piglet or Muppet toys that include Miss Piggie.)

42 posted on 10/05/2001 8:02:17 AM PDT by DonQ
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To: LibWhacker
islamic theologians have since identified a Koranic out for any devout moslem killed in this way.

I would like to know where I can learn about the teachings of the Islamic theologians who teach this. I mean this sincerely, as I am a student of Islamic teachings. Let me know if you have any source for this. Thanks.

43 posted on 10/05/2001 8:04:46 AM PDT by JeepInMazar
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To: JeepInMazar
I like it, except, use Rosie O'Donnell (same diff) so as to keep the PETA people on board.
44 posted on 10/05/2001 8:22:49 AM PDT by caddie
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To: Zon
What a concept! End the war and provide the world with comic relief for years to come. Might even inspire a new Pink Floyd CD.
45 posted on 10/05/2001 8:32:41 AM PDT by sweetliberty
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To: bluecollarman
ROFLMBO!
46 posted on 10/05/2001 8:34:48 AM PDT by sweetliberty
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To: JeepInMazar
I would like to know where I can learn about the teachings of the Islamic theologians who teach this.

Hi, Jeep! Okay, I'll email him and ask. Don't be surprised if he doesn't answer me, though: He seems to be real mad at me ever since I moved to the right Ghengis Khan. LOL.

47 posted on 10/05/2001 8:36:34 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: lowbridge
TOO MUCH!! I love it. What an improvement.
48 posted on 10/05/2001 8:36:44 AM PDT by sweetliberty
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To: Ol' Sparky
Would that be pig guts you refer to?
49 posted on 10/05/2001 8:38:09 AM PDT by sweetliberty
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To: LibWhacker
I believe the Australians did something similar with the remains of a couple of troublesome Turkish Muslims who had committed a similar act in the early days of the Great War. Possibly the following excerpt [ written following the Arkansas *Jonesboro Massacre*] would give you enough info to track that story down as well.

I don't know what the old Grand-da would have thought of the Jonesboro, Arkansas shootings of four students and a teacher by two of their classmates, but I can guess: He had one short encounter with a juvenile stock thief who was appropriately dealt with, followed by a private and respectful burial. Anyone, children or not, firing on schoolchildren in my Grandfather's presence would have had serious problems continuing their activities, had he been within a quarter-mile or so, and assuming he had either of his favorite rifles with him- particularly his match '03 Springfield. He'd have simply seen it as a duty that was his, performed for the unarmed kids being shot down like sheep.

That sort of atrocity was not unknown, even in his day, and not just in America. In October of 1914, two years before my Grandfather first heard his own first shots fired in anger, the Sultan of Turkey declared a holy war- Jihad!- against the British Empire. In a little Australian mining town called Broken Hill, two devout and nationalistic Turks did not receive word of this call to duty until New Years Eve. Then Gool Mahomet, an ice-cream vendor and his partner Mullah Abdullah, a butcher learned of the Sultan's call to arms and set out to do their duty.

The pair made a Turkish flag from a tablecloth, loaded Mahomet's one-horse ice-cream cart with such ammunition and supplies as could be had, and went to war with the next day's sunrise. Two miles from town, the two elderly men ambushed a miner's train carrying employees and their families for a holiday picnic. Their opening salvo killed two adults, and eight of the children who previously had thoughts only of the fun that they'd have at their holiday picnic. Eventually police and militia units responded and surrounded the makeshift stone barricade from which the Muslim fighters fought beneath their makeshift crescent flag and rejected all calls to surrender. For six hours they continued to hoarsely chant patriotic and religious songs beneath the Australian sun until finally massed volley fire cut them to ribbons.

Nowadays, I suppose, we'd call them Islamic Fundamentalists, and terrorists, but they cannot be faulted for their devotion to the beliefs for which they gave their lives and to their loyalty to each other. In the New South Wales Police Museum, a faded homemade flag, a pair of rusty rifles, and the brightly painted wheels of an ice cream cart that went to war were long on display- and may even still be there- as reminders.

50 posted on 10/05/2001 8:52:23 AM PDT by archy
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