Posted on 10/06/2001 6:16:58 PM PDT by Dengar01
I just got home from church and I had to post this. I attended Willow Creek church which is north west of Chicago. It is the largest church in the area, it is a non-denominational Christian church, the main auditorium hold 10,000 people and was filled tonight. The topic of the 5:00 service tonight was the interview with a Muslim named Iama Fisal Hammounda, by Senior Pastor Bill Hybels. They will be having three more services between tonight and tomorrow, I pray to God they change their plans for the next services.
I knew this was going to get ugly when the church showed a video on ethnic diversity. I looked around at the church filled to capacity with over 10,000 people and noticed several Muslims.
The inteview started and the man was introduced as a Egyptian who moved here in 1974. He complained that his wife was in Florida and couldn't come home due to the fact that she would be harassed. The goal of Pastor Hybel's interview was to prove that Islam is a peaceful religion, lets just say that he failed, miserabley.
Pastor Hybels did ask some very good questions which surprised me since I thought the Muslim might take the questions as offensive. A few questions statements stood out. The Muslim declared that Islam was peaceful and that the terrorists did not follow Islam, fine I guess. He continued that a "Jihad" had to do with attacking sin he made the poor analogy of declaring a jihad on eating candy.
Continuing Pastor Hybels asked him about martyrs along with the virgins and the streams of wine and the Muslim responded I pray for that to happen. He was truly innappropriate and this is when everything went downhill.
After the Muslims were jumping for joy with the Mr. Hammounda's innappropriate remarks, many people got up and walked out disgusted. I stayed to hear his next remarks which stunned me worse than his previous remarks.
That is when I walked out.
Fortunately for me to write this my sister and her husband stayed while I was complaining to several people at the Service Desk. The final statement which I was lucky enough to miss finished with Mr. Hammounda saying that Christians and Muslims can be friends, only on Muslims terms.
Yes you heard it the slime being spewed by the left is false. I heard it first hand from this man answering innappropriately while joking about a serious issue. I made the statement that this was unnacceptable for a church and should not be tolerated.
If you agree with me you can FReep the church at:
Willow Creek Community Church
67 E. Algonquin Road
South Barrington, IL 60010
(847) 765-5000
Fax: (847) 765-9222
General e-mail: info@willowcreek.org
Don't worry because the church had many people furious, about 200 people walked out including myself and many people were venting their frustration to people who work at the church. I will be calling the church tomorrow to let them know how I feel.
What is it with Florida and these people?
If they're that afraid for their safety, they should go back to where they came from. Oh, I forgot, it's more fun to stay here to whine about how they're picked on and subvert the country.
Florida? Well, it seems they'd be happy with their own kind in Palm Beach. They can help count.
All the conservative folks left before he was done me included. My sister and her husband stayed to hear the rest of what the slime had to say. My sister is looking through phone books to find this guy to call him up and B@tch, before she leaves my house. The problem with media is I seriously doubt any of the PC Press out here will report it except maybe the Chicago Tribune. I let FOX know and they are on to it, hopefully, and I will email O'Reilly.
The pastor was trying to get everyone to be sympathetic the the Muslim, and 5 years ago everyone would have sat in the congregation and listened politely while he made all these asinine comments.
But things have changed, and the PC pulpit is going the way of the dinosaur. I will bet there is a HUGE uproar over this, and I will bet members get a "letter of explanation" with lots of backtracking, although the pastor will say that he FEELS like its important to UNDERSTAND these people. Less than an abject apology and I would be organizing a congregational revolt!!
And when you're done with the tape, feel free to ram it up their backside.
And the goal of every Muslim is not the adoption of Sharia law in the US. Frankly, the sharia is a perversion of the Koran.
As for this dumb s.o.b. in the article who blames the US for terrorism, he deserves a serious beating. He is an embarrassment to our community, and you are right to chastise him.
As for the separation of church and state-- the Koran commands Muslims to obey the laws of the society in which they live
I'd like to see the video too. Thanks for volunteering to put it on the 'net.
That's really rich. Although you have only been with FR since Sept.14, 2001, surely you have figured out that most of us don't buy that line.
Koran, Haddith, ayatollahs, mullahs, imams, Wahhabis, and all of it added together equals a pack of lies dressed in hell-fire.
Everyone of us would benefit from reading it again -- or for the first time.
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