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Giuliani Said to Get British Honor
Associated Press\newday.com ^ | October 13, 2001, 7:25 PM EDT

Posted on 10/13/2001 5:04:47 PM PDT by Walkin Man

Giuliani Said to Get British Honor
By Associated Press

LONDON -- New York Mayor Rudolph Giuliani will be given an honorary knighthood for his leadership following the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks in the United States, British news reports said Saturday.

The national news agency Press Association, attributing its story to an unidentified source, said Queen Elizabeth II or her representative would bestow the title on Giuliani in recognition of his compassion toward British victims.

Buckingham Palace could not confirm the report because it was a matter for Prime Minister Tony Blair's government, which selects the people to be honored. And Blair's 10 Downing St. office said it was not in a position to confirm the report.

But the Sunday Telegraph, usually well-informed on royal matters, quoted an unidentified Buckingham Palace official as saying, "The queen believes that Rudolph Giuliani was an inspiration to political leaders around the world as well as to his city. She was grateful for his support for Britons bereaved by the tragedy and feels that this will also be a gesture of solidarity between America and Britain.

"Her regard for Mayor Giuliani is reflected in her desire to present the honor in person at Buckingham Palace," the official was quoted as saying.

As an honorary knight and a foreign citizen, the mayor would not use the title 'Sir.'

Knighthoods and similar honors usually are announced twice a year -- at the New Year and in mid-June.

Other Americans who have received honorary knighthoods are former Presidents Ronald Reagan and George Bush, British-born actor Bob Hope, Secretary of State Colin Powell, film director Steven Spielberg and conductor Andre Previn.


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1 posted on 10/13/2001 5:04:47 PM PDT by Walkin Man
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To: Walkin Man
Rudy's going to be a knight!
2 posted on 10/13/2001 5:07:00 PM PDT by Walkin Man
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To: Walkin Man
Way to go Queen Elizabeth II!!
3 posted on 10/13/2001 5:13:45 PM PDT by klee
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To: Walkin Man
I'm not sure that I like this. There is no doubt that the Mayor has done an outstanding job in the last month. I can't think of anyone who could have stepped up and performed with the combination of toughness and compassion that the mayor has demonstrated. But he was reacting to a situation that he would be the first to say he wished he never had to face. It's hard to accept an honor for circumstances like that.
4 posted on 10/13/2001 5:14:47 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Walkin Man
He did a good job. You can say that.
5 posted on 10/13/2001 5:15:56 PM PDT by End Cartesian math gnosticism
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To: Non-Sequitur
Well he could accept it in honor of the New York FD and Police, if he wanted to. I think he has done a great job myself.
6 posted on 10/13/2001 5:21:08 PM PDT by Walkin Man
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To: Non-Sequitur
he would be the first to say he wished he never had to face.

All the more reason to bestow the honor upon him, because he has risen to the occassion even when it is a task no one would ever want to encounter. He did not run tail or leave the responsibiliity to anyone else. As a New York City resident I salute our mayor, a man of great sacrifice.

Way to go Sir Rudy!

7 posted on 10/13/2001 5:26:59 PM PDT by WomanofStandard
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To: End Cartesian math gnosticism; MadIvan
I agree. I think it's a nice gesture from the Queen of England also. Like playing our national anthem at the changing of the Guards, that was beautiful.
8 posted on 10/13/2001 5:27:36 PM PDT by Walkin Man
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To: Walkin Man
Maybe QE II will adopt Sir Rudy, drop her diaper headed loving dufas of a son and make him eventually King Rudy.

Kewl idea, ah what?

9 posted on 10/13/2001 5:33:53 PM PDT by jws3sticks
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To: Walkin Man
Awesome!!!!!
10 posted on 10/13/2001 5:34:09 PM PDT by Roebucks
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To: Walkin Man
Here's a related post:

Queen Liz Wants To Bestow A Hizzonerary Knighthood

11 posted on 10/13/2001 5:35:34 PM PDT by Jean S
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To: Walkin Man
We Americans may get British Honors from time to time but we'll never get British humor!
12 posted on 10/13/2001 5:36:14 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: Walkin Man
Giuliani Said to Get British Honor

I'll bet this TICKS OLD HILLARY OFF!!

13 posted on 10/13/2001 5:36:35 PM PDT by Uff Da
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To: JeanS
Thank you for that link JeanS. The story I posted is the first time I had heard of this, looks like the rumor has been around for awhile, eh?
14 posted on 10/13/2001 5:39:51 PM PDT by Walkin Man
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To: SamAdams76
What about Benny Hill?

And now for something totally different....

15 posted on 10/13/2001 5:41:21 PM PDT by Walkin Man
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To: Walkin Man
Note to Others: This just shows, that having an extramarital affair does not affect your ability to be a great leader.
16 posted on 10/13/2001 5:42:32 PM PDT by eabinga
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To: Uff Da
LOL! I bet you are right, UD!
17 posted on 10/13/2001 5:42:40 PM PDT by Walkin Man
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To: Walkin Man
The only source I saw was the NY Daily News. I loved this from their article:

There's precedent: Other Americans so honored include Ronald Reagan and George Bush, British-born Bob Hope, Secretary of State Powell, Steven Spielberg and conductor Andre Previn. Each has received a medal proclaiming him an Honorary Knight of the British Empire.

There's no mention of Clinton. I wonder what chance he has now of knighthood.

18 posted on 10/13/2001 5:47:29 PM PDT by Jean S
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To: Non-Sequitur
"But he was reacting to a situation that he would be the first to say he wished he never had to face. It's hard to accept an honor for circumstances like that."

In all likliehood, those words are probably true of virtually every Congressional Medal of Honor Recipient as well...I'm still glad they were there to do the things they did, and grateful that recognition was bestowed upon them.

19 posted on 10/13/2001 6:02:29 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack
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To: JeanS
I wonder what chance he has now of knighthood.

Slim to none I'd say! (c:

Maybe bubba can be elected dog-catcher somewhere back in Arkansas.

20 posted on 10/13/2001 6:05:02 PM PDT by Walkin Man
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To: eabinga
Further Note: An extramarital affair and having your subordinates perform oral sex on you in the workplace are two totally different things!
21 posted on 10/13/2001 6:08:16 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: eabinga
I guess I missed it. When did Giuliani lie under oath to a grand jury about his affair?
22 posted on 10/13/2001 6:12:22 PM PDT by Jean S
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To: klee
Giuliani to receive honorary knighthood

By Joe Murphy, Political Editor (Filed: 14/10/2001)

RUDOLPH GIULIANI, the mayor of New York, is to be given an honorary knighthood for his leadership after the World Trade Centre tragedy.

The Queen will bestow the honour on him in recognition of the compassion he showed towards British victims of the terrorist attacks and his determination to get the city back on to its feet. The award was recommended to the Palace by Tony Blair.

As a mark of British esteem, she is expected to invite Mr Giuliani to Buckingham Palace to receive the honour, which will proclaim him a Knight Commander of the Civil Division of the Most Excellent Order of the British Empire.

The mayor will not be allowed to call himself Sir Rudi, however, because he is not a British citizen. The knighthood ceremony for foreigners is less elaborate and the Queen will not touch the Sword of State to his shoulders, as she would with a Briton.

Mr Giuliani joins a prestigious list of Americans given honorary knighthoods, including Ronald Reagan, the former US president, Bob Hope, the British-born actor, Colin Powell, the Secretary of State and Gulf War leader, and Steven Spielberg, the film director, and Andre Previn, the composer and musician.

A Buckingham Palace official said: "The Queen believes that Rudolph Giuliani was an inspiration to political leaders around the world as well as to his city."

The official added: "She was grateful for his suport for Britons bereaved by the tragedy and feels that this will also be a gesture of solidarity between America and Britain. Her regard for Mayor Giuliani is reflected in her desire to present the honour in person at Buckingham Palace."

After the attacks, Republican Mr Giuliani, 57, won acclaim for voicing the spirit of New York and rallying its citizens.

He visited Ground Zero, the site of the collapsed towers, immediately, prompting favourable comparisons with President Bush who did not travel to the city until later, and took a lead in supporting firefighters and police who led the rescue attempts.

Mr Giuliani is legally obliged to retire at the end of this year having served the maximum term of eight years in the post. Although he is still riding a wave of popularity since the disaster, he is no longer seeking an extension to his mayoralty.

The Queen is also expected to give honours to Bernard Kerik, the police commissioner of New York, and Thomas Von Essen, the city's fire commissioner, probably in the New Year List.

http://www.portal.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2001/10/14/wguil14.xml&sSheet=/news/2001/10/14/ixhome.html

Another story this is from the Telegraph, a British paper.

23 posted on 10/13/2001 6:16:30 PM PDT by Walkin Man
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To: Walkin Man
Thanks for the reminder about them playing our national anthem during the changing of the guard. I am so happy for Rudy and his police and fire commissioners. They are more than deserving of all honors bestowed upon them.
24 posted on 10/13/2001 6:17:45 PM PDT by OldFriend
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To: OldFriend
Thanks for the reminder about them playing our national anthem during the changing of the guard.

I saw the Coldstream Guards(?) playing our national anthem during the changing of the guard on TV. It was very moving, a large crowd of people were watching with tears in their eyes including the Queen, if I remember right.

I am so happy for Rudy and his police and fire commissioners. They are more than deserving of all honors bestowed upon them.

Yes I'm glad the NYC Police and Fire Dept will also be honored. They lost many men trying to rescue victims of the terror.

25 posted on 10/13/2001 6:31:40 PM PDT by Walkin Man
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To: Walkin Man
The queen indeed had tears in her eyes. It was very moving.
26 posted on 10/13/2001 6:35:47 PM PDT by Jean S
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To: Walkin Man
And now doubt our very own her heinous has tears in her eyes too.
27 posted on 10/13/2001 6:38:09 PM PDT by OldFriend
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To: SamAdams76
Agreed. I wasn't thinking about the latter.
28 posted on 10/13/2001 6:39:04 PM PDT by eabinga
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To: JeanS
You know I wish I had on a DVD, the terrible act of terror against the WTC, the changing of the guard and playing our anthem, and three speeches of President Bush. The one at the National Cathedral,(my favorite), the address to Congress, with Tony Blair and Todd Beamer's wife, and the speech GWB gave at the Pentagon recently. Some historic moments are in these events. Horror and tragedy, hopeful and spiritual, quiet, thoughtful and brave moments.
29 posted on 10/13/2001 6:47:28 PM PDT by Walkin Man
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To: OldFriend
And now doubt our very own her heinous has tears in her eyes too.

LOL, other people think so too, see reply 13! Hitlerly is heinous, isn't she?

30 posted on 10/13/2001 6:50:30 PM PDT by Walkin Man
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To: Senator Pardek
Thoughts?
31 posted on 10/13/2001 6:58:10 PM PDT by Askel5
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To: Askel5
Like Rudy, the only thought on my mind right know is whether Mo will get three more to keep the Bombers alive.

Getting an honorary knighthood means nothing to a kid who survived being a Yankee fan in Brooklyn in the 1950's.

32 posted on 10/13/2001 7:36:48 PM PDT by Senator Pardek
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To: Askel5
Woo Hoo!
33 posted on 10/13/2001 7:50:08 PM PDT by Senator Pardek
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To: Walkin Man
I wish RG were mayor of NYC for the rest of his life.

He is unopposed in his approach to The City.

He has also merely acted the way any human being should have acted, in this crisis. RG is NOT special because he tenders normal human feelings.

We praise RG bc his simple human decency needs to be praised, in our times.

It is precisely normal human decency which is the essence of America. RG does us no favor by recognizing it.

34 posted on 10/13/2001 8:03:51 PM PDT by Urbane_Guerilla
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To: Askel5
It's not unheard of for the Honors List to discover and push forward moral triumphs in the wake of unmitigated disasters. There's bound to be an element of the Irish electorate that won't look kindly upon Rudy's K. Perhaps he harbors no further elective ambitions.
35 posted on 10/13/2001 8:20:54 PM PDT by Romulus
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To: Romulus
Depends on your meaning of "elective ambitions".

I think his decision to wimp out on the Senate seat may have proven his ambitions are far more deep than public office.

36 posted on 10/13/2001 8:56:29 PM PDT by Askel5
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To: Senator Pardek
My sister probably feels the same.

I don't deny for one moment the very genuine "My city kicks your city's ass" attitude of Rudy (I still have my button, as a matter of fact.)

37 posted on 10/13/2001 9:05:50 PM PDT by Askel5
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To: Urbane_Guerilla
I think Rudy might be offered the directorship(?)of the CIA. I read something about this today.
38 posted on 10/13/2001 9:38:15 PM PDT by Walkin Man
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To: Askel5
If your sis is not "packin'" already, I suggest she start applying for her carry permit now, so she's ready when Mark Red Green moves into Gracie Mansion.
39 posted on 10/13/2001 10:04:33 PM PDT by Senator Pardek
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To: Askel5
LOL - I see you did not get my "Woo Hoo". Mo got the final three and the Yanks still have at least one game left in their season.
40 posted on 10/13/2001 10:06:35 PM PDT by Senator Pardek
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To: Walkin Man
I think the Queen is right. He was an inspiration on that dark day in September. From my view here on the West Coast he was inspiring.

I can imagine some mayors would have reacted differently. They would have gone into hiding. Rudy showed real courage and real leadership when it was really needed. He had the freedom to move around and speak in a way Bush could not. I'm glad he was there.

41 posted on 10/14/2001 12:04:58 AM PDT by Byzantine
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To: Walkin Man
"I think it's a nice gesture from the Queen of England also. Like playing our national anthem at the changing of the Guards, that was beautiful."

Notwithstanding the actions of her family, HRH has more class in her pinky finger than most elected officials could ever dream of in an entire lifetime. 4 years ago during her arrival for the celebrations of the 500th anniversary of John Cabot's (or Giovanni Caboto's) discovery of Canada, she went out of her way to greet the Aboriginal delegation, which was not invited, but came to quietly remind that with the arrival of the Europeans came the extinction of the Newfoundland Beothuk and the beginning of the displacement and marginalization of Native Peoples. While the politicians awkwardly ignored them, the Queen went right to Ovide Mercredi, leader of the Assembly of First Nations, to tell him how happy she was that they came.

Story here.

IMO, as long as she sits on the throne, the republican movement in Canada will not gain an inch. She is my head of state.

42 posted on 10/14/2001 1:27:20 AM PDT by badfreeper
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To: Walkin Man
Her Majesty has truly "stepped up to the plate" in this time of crisis. And I am delighted that she is reflecting the national mood about the heroism of Mayor Giuliani and the Commissioners.

Bill Clinton will never be so honoured. It would be too controversial here, for starters, and second, he's too uncouth - "Sir Bubba"? Come now.

Regards, Ivan

FreeBritannia.co.uk
43 posted on 10/14/2001 2:00:35 AM PDT by MadIvan
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To: Walkin Man
Thats gonna really hack Hillary off

The Queen remembers the Blitz well. Buckingham Palace copped a few.

44 posted on 10/14/2001 2:06:16 AM PDT by klee
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