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Two tested for anthrax; letter to clinic stirs alarm [Planned Parenthood letter tested positive]
Miami Herald ^ | 10-17-01 | MH Staff

Posted on 10/17/2001 4:21:30 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

Two tested for anthrax; letter to clinic stirs alarm

BETH REINHARD, LISA ARTHUR AND AMY DRISCOLL
adriscoll@herald.com

Anthrax anxiety surged in South Florida on Tuesday as two more people were hospitalized and tested for anthrax in Broward County and a letter sent to a Planned Parenthood office in Martin County tested positive for anthrax in an initial screening.

The letter -- one of 15 similar letters sent to Planned Parenthood clinics in Florida and at least 91 nationwide -- was sent to a lab in Miami for further testing. Police field-tested it with positive results but cautioned that the initial tests sometimes give false positives. Results from more conclusive tests are expected Thursday.

As health officials repeatedly called for calm Tuesday and postal authorities staunchly maintained the mails are safe, Gov. Jeb Bush flew to Boca Raton -- where the deadly germ was first detected two weeks ago at tabloid publishing house American Media Inc. -- to issue a warning against anthrax hoaxes.

``If the perpetrators are caught, they are going to be prosecuted,'' he said. ``We will find you and when we do, we will do all we can to send you to prison for 15 years.''

Still, the alarms continued:

In Martin County, police intercepted the Planned Parenthood letter at a local post office, alerted because it fit the description of other letters containing a powdery substance sent to clinics.

Like the other letters, it contained powder and had a return address of the U.S. Secret Service in Atlanta. Police described it as a rambling anti-abortion letter with references to ``Army of God.''

A commercially available anthrax test was used on the substance, with a positive reading. But Joe Lyons, assistant police chief in Stuart, cautioned Tuesday night that the tests can be unreliable. The manufacturer of the test kits claims 95 percent reliability.

 



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1 posted on 10/17/2001 4:21:30 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Right wing nuts shamefully taking advantage of the terror attacks or a red herring?
2 posted on 10/17/2001 4:27:25 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter
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To: Straight Vermonter
At this point, WTF knows?
3 posted on 10/17/2001 4:32:04 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
It is disturbing that two very liberal icons, Brokaw and Daschle, are the ones that have been attacked. Remmeber Brokaw refused to wear the flag, and Dasche is..well...Daschle.

Odd are its not, but if it is some conservative whacko, that will cause great damage to great causes.

4 posted on 10/17/2001 4:32:12 AM PDT by Jalapeno
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To: Straight Vermonter
Hard to tell but Muslims are against abortion as well.
5 posted on 10/17/2001 4:34:36 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: Jalapeno
"Odd are its not, but if it is some conservative whacko, that will cause great damage to great causes."

The letters may have been sent by agents working for the ADL, for example. They may be trying to use this to stamp out the right-wing opposition. The ADL may use this to pass laws to outlaw conservatism.

6 posted on 10/17/2001 4:40:41 AM PDT by Marduk
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To: Straight Vermonter; Jalapeno
Some of these"anthrax letters" are not passing the smell test, are they? I seriously doubt it's the ADL, though. This is beginning to seem like a kook who happens to be hard right.
7 posted on 10/17/2001 4:45:31 AM PDT by Clara Lou
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To: Jalapeno
Odd are its not, but if it is some conservative whacko, that will cause great damage to great causes.

I wouldn't consider the Army of God to be mainstream or conservative, but way out on the fringe.

If this letter tests positive for anthrax after lab testing (and the test does give false positives--which is a whole lot better than false negatives), the Army of God would become radioactive. Neal Horsely and his buddies will be in deep deep doo.

8 posted on 10/17/2001 4:48:02 AM PDT by Catspaw
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To: Jalapeno
I think it's also worth pointing out that many Muslim fundamentalists believe that the Democratic Party represents the interests of the Jews a lot more than the Republican Party. I recall hearing some Muslim fundamentalist say that Gore was the candidate of the Jews and Bush the candidate of the Christians.
9 posted on 10/17/2001 4:52:04 AM PDT by Marduk
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To: Marduk
I think it's also worth pointing out that many Muslim fundamentalists believe that the Democratic Party represents the interests of the Jews a lot more than the Republican Party. I recall hearing some Muslim fundamentalist say that Gore was the candidate of the Jews and Bush the candidate of the Christians.
But they hate both jews and christians equally. It's Israeli's they hate in addition.
10 posted on 10/17/2001 4:59:37 AM PDT by College Repub
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To: Jalapeno
I doubt there is a "right wing" connection for two reasons....The Muslim fanantics don't care for ANY Americans, Osama once called Clinton a coward...so they do not see liberal and conservative.....secondly, the letters to Dashle and the news outlets are reported to have anti-Israeli, anti-American, and pro-Muslim messages. There is one more reason I doubt the "right wingers"....there has NEVER been any report that authorites fear that the anti-abortion groups had the means or knowledge to use antrhax.
11 posted on 10/17/2001 5:02:52 AM PDT by Moby Grape
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To: Straight Vermonter
Hard to say who's doing this but my gut says it's a setup by the Left. because they are the ones left most disavantaged by the current events.
12 posted on 10/17/2001 5:04:23 AM PDT by Musket
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To: College Repub
"But they hate both jews and christians equally. It's Israeli's they hate in addition."

I think they hate Jews a lot more.

The point I am trying to make is that maybe Islamic fundamentalists hate liberals more than they hate conservatives because they think that liberalism is under a greater Jewish influence. Thus, Islamic fundamentalist terrorists may be targetting liberals like Daschle, Brokaw and Planned Parenthood.

Then again I think this may have done by liberal organizations like the ADL and Planned Parenthood so as to outlaw conservatism.

13 posted on 10/17/2001 5:07:41 AM PDT by Marduk
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To: Impeach the Boy
"...there has NEVER been any report that authorites fear that the anti-abortion groups had the means or knowledge to use antrhax."

You are wrong.

February 25, 1999

"(New York, NY) At the request of attorneys for Planned Parenthood and other abortion providers, federal district judge Robert E. Jones issued a permanent injunction today enjoining and restraining the American Coalition of Life Activists, Advocates for Life Ministries and 12 individual defendants...

Today's injunction follows the February 2nd jury assessment of $107 million in damages against the defendants for illegal threats against the plaintiffs.

In his order, Judge Jones described the Wanted Posters and Nuremberg Files Web site, each as a "true threat to bodily harm, assault or kill one or more of the defendants." Judge Jones then went further, stating that from his own independent review of the evidence produced at trial, "the plaintiffs have proven by clear and convincing evidence" that each defendant acted "with specific intent and malice in a blatant and illegal communication of true threats to kill assault to do bodily harm to each of the plaintiffs and with the specific intent to interfere with or intimidate the plaintiffs from engaging in legal practices and procedures."

Wrote Judge Jones, "I totally reject the defendants' attempts to justify their actions as an expression of opinion or as a legitimate and lawful exercise of free speech in order to dissuade the plaintiffs from engaging in providing abortion services."

...The injunction from U.S. District Court in Oregon came in the wake of a rash of anthrax threats sent by mail to abortion providers and other organizations all over the country. "These anthrax letters, like the Wanted Posters and the Web site, pose a real threat to the peaceful functioning of our public democratic institutions," said Feldt. "These folks think that violence is the light and the way. It is time for everyone to stand together against anti-choice terrorism."

http://www.plannedparenthood.org/pressreleases/22599-injunction.html

14 posted on 10/17/2001 5:13:51 AM PDT by 2020x100
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Well, no matter who did it, it just couldn't have happened to nicer people, eh? ;)
15 posted on 10/17/2001 5:16:22 AM PDT by GenXFreedomFighter
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To: Straight Vermonter
I don't think it's right wing Americans. Planned Parenthood would be a very likely target of Muslim fundamentalists who have been upset for years at the genocide being done to them by International Planned Parenthood using UN money. Clinton did a great deal of damage by helping the feminists take over many of the US policies and in the UN. They were forcing abortion clinics onto countries that didn't want them, along with radical feminism and the homosexual agenda.

Radical liberals do not want to realize it, but it was not Conservative Judeo-Christian American values that got us into this mess. But those values will have to get us out.

16 posted on 10/17/2001 5:17:47 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: Jalapeno
The anthrax sent to Daschle and Brokaw is being reported as Weapons Grade.

What is going on in Florida??!!

17 posted on 10/17/2001 5:19:50 AM PDT by tuesday afternoon
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More from this thread...

Considering groups like this do this pretty regularly -- sorry but they are suspect NUMBER 1.

From a Wall Street Journal article:

snip:

"Letters threatening anthrax were first used against abortion providers in October 1998, just days after a physician who performed abortions, Barnett Slepian, was murdered outside Buffalo, N.Y.

Since then, the NAF says, clinics have received more than 80 anthrax poisoning threats, including letters saying anyone exposed to the powder would die. Some of the earliest letters contained no return address; many were sent from Ohio. But after law-enforcement agents advised clinic staff to avoid opening letters from anonymous senders, letters began arriving with phony return addresses from fictitious medical-supply companies, from the department of taxation or even other clinics, the NAF said. None of the anthrax threats proved real, however, and none of the perpetrators were ever caught.

Since 1992, more than 100 attacks involving butyric acid -- used in the manufacturing of perfumes, artificial flavorings, pharmaceuticals, disinfectants and gasoline -- have been reported at abortion clinics. In 1998, in what appeared to be linked assaults, 19 clinics in Florida, Texas and Louisiana were doused with butyric acid, which can irritate the respiratory tract if inhaled, induce vomiting if swallowed, and can cause burns to the skin and eyes.

In most cases, no serious injuries were reported. However several victims were hospitalized and two clinic workers suffered from more long-term problems, like abnormal liver functions, pneumonia and respiratory problems, according to the NAF."

Pro-lifers.
Killing.
For God.

18 posted on 10/17/2001 5:21:36 AM PDT by 2020x100
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To: FITZ
It would not surprise me one bit if Muslims would mail these bioterrorism letters with messages imitating ultra-right crypto-Christian rhetoric as a tactic to try to divide America.
19 posted on 10/17/2001 5:22:47 AM PDT by John Valentine
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To: 2020x100
Since you seem to be pro-PP, do you really believe it was a good policy that they were forcing their clinics on Muslim countries? Do you think they might have had much to do with pushing so-called moderate Muslim clerics into more anti-American positions? Look at the tactics pulled at the Cairo Conference-----the Planned Parenthood tried to run Muslim clerics and the Vatican out so they could have no opposition at all. I think some of you had better start looking very hard at your genocide practices and what it's done to the image of the US throughout the world.
20 posted on 10/17/2001 5:23:14 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Somebody claimed that during the Iranian Revolution the Shi'ites burned a PP office before attacking our embassy. I've yet to find any confirmation on this.

Could the term "Army of God" be used by a fringe Muslim, as well as by the fringe domestic terrorists?

21 posted on 10/17/2001 5:24:30 AM PDT by Dumb_Ox
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To: John Valentine
They might but they also have some fierce resentment of the abortion pushers themselves. When you look closely at the Clintons' use of UN money----they were using money threats, or in other words, bribing countries to have "legal abortion" against the wishes of the people. It was horrendous the way they used their power to force their agenda, and it doesn't surprise me the targets of genocide might be fighting back.
22 posted on 10/17/2001 5:26:50 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: Dumb_Ox
"Hizbollah" means "party of God." What would "army of God" be in Arabic?
23 posted on 10/17/2001 5:27:16 AM PDT by aristeides
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To: aristeides
Just a guess, but "Jihad"?
24 posted on 10/17/2001 5:29:54 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Anthrax spores were found in a ventilation grill above the AMI mailroom, investigators told the crowd, and appeared to have risen from an opened package up to the grill.

I don't believe this, but do they mean fresh-air return vent or forced-air vent?

Investigators did not sweep the entire 66,000 square foot building, just the areas where employees had been exposed to anthrax.

Florida needs a central command now to take charge of all the health care ramifications and make sure proper and complete procedures are followed by all.

25 posted on 10/17/2001 5:30:53 AM PDT by tuesday afternoon
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To: Marduk
The letters may have been sent by agents working for the ADL, for example. They may be trying to use this to stamp out the right-wing opposition. The ADL may use this to pass laws to outlaw conservatism.

Rotfl. What particular mosque do you belong to?

26 posted on 10/17/2001 5:33:22 AM PDT by Cachelot
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To: 2020x100
"Pro-lifers. Killing. For God."

That's nothing compared to how many people abortionists have killed. It's about 1 million per year in the US alone. Pro-choicers, killing for Feminism.

27 posted on 10/17/2001 5:35:45 AM PDT by Marduk
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
See the light people!

This is exactly what they want.
My theory: this is all at the hands of the terrorists and they are selecting targets based on 2 criteria:
1) Where can they spread the most fear?
Answer: attack the media because you are GUARANTEED mass coverage.
2) Where can they do the most harm?
Answer: By selecting politically sensitive targets they are forcing us to turn a wary eye inward. They are trying to pit the most extreme elements of our society against each other and thus break down our collective national will to continue the war effort.

If this thread is any indication they are succeeding in their 'divide and conquer' efforts.

28 posted on 10/17/2001 5:36:20 AM PDT by BlueNgold
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To: Cachelot
"What particular mosque do you belong to?"

I'm Catholic, I've never entered a mosque in my life.

29 posted on 10/17/2001 5:37:26 AM PDT by Marduk
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To: GenXFreedomFighter
So you think it's fine in a democracy to send anthrax to a group that don't share your beliefs? Loosen that turban GenX Bin Freedom Fighter - I think it's too tight...
30 posted on 10/17/2001 5:38:37 AM PDT by Ice-D
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To: John Valentine
It would not surprise me one bit if Muslims would mail these bioterrorism letters with messages imitating ultra-right crypto-Christian rhetoric as a tactic to try to divide America.

I'm with you. I believe it's an attempt by the terrorists to get us fighting among ourselves and to garner a much more vociferous response by the liberal peaceniks.

If conservatives like Rush, Tom DeLay, Hational Review, etc. were sent letters, there's not a chance they'd be running scared and mount demonstrations against our actions against Afghanistan. By targeting the liberal groups, those known to hate the military and anything they do, the terrorists are hoping to ratchet up the opposition to our actions.

31 posted on 10/17/2001 5:38:56 AM PDT by randita
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To: tuesday afternoon
Florida needs a central command now to take charge of all the health care ramifications and make sure proper and complete procedures are followed by all.

My sources in the Repub Party office in Tallahassee tell me that the wheels started in motion for this weeks ago, and that Florida will likely design a state office to mirror Director Ridge's office. The details are being discussed daily.

32 posted on 10/17/2001 5:39:01 AM PDT by BlueNgold
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To: BlueNgold
Thanks for the heads up. I couldn't sleep, so I spent most of the night reading way too many articles on anthrax.
33 posted on 10/17/2001 5:49:30 AM PDT by tuesday afternoon
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To: FITZ
" I think some of you had better start looking very hard at your genocide practices and what it's done to the image of the US throughout the world.

Helping to provide contraception and health care to women in third world countries is not a "genocidal practice."

Leaving them be is.

Every minute of every day, somewhere on Earth, a woman dies in pregnancy or childbirth -- more than 500,000 deaths a year. Of the motherless children left behind, an estimated 90 percent die before they turn 1 .

Health centers receiving U.S. family-planning assistance often supply the only basic health care of any kind for miles around. They offer information on and access to contraception; reproductive health care and education on nutrition and hygiene. These centers also provide health care for pregnant women, assistance when they deliver their babies and follow-up care for mother and child.

Providing a mother with access to contraception also helps her children. Studies show that children spaced at intervals of two years or more are healthier than siblings born in rapid succession. Contraceptives are as important to public health as vaccines or antibiotics.

By providing men and women the education and services they need for sexual health, these programs protect them from AIDS and other sexually transmitted infections and help ensure their babies are healthy. Last year, more than half the AIDS deaths in the world were women, and they left behind millions of orphans, many of them HIV-positive.

There is no "forced" abortions. There *is* a great deal of education and contraception assistance.

Or maybe you prefer to see more acres and acres of little children's distended bellies with flies and maggots hovering around the starving and dying. And more women die in childbirth because they could not have access to contraception.

Yeah. All those slutty third world women just sexing it up and should be punished now, huh?

34 posted on 10/17/2001 5:51:27 AM PDT by 2020x100
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
FYI:

http://www.armyofgod.com

If these people are the source of such letters, their actions are in very poor taste and will have a negative impact PR-wise upon the entire Pro-Life community.

Fools.

35 posted on 10/17/2001 5:52:42 AM PDT by LincolnLover
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To: 2020x100
Reflections of an American Muslim

(Shahid Athar , M. D.)

THE FALLOUT FROM THE CAIRO POPULATION CONFERENCE

Saddam Hussain's Scud missiles were more of a nuisance, but their debris falling from their explosions in the air was more damaging. In the same way, the population conference which just ended on September 13, has fallout which may be endangering the whole of mankind, especially those in the Third World, for centuries. If the conference itself was just for discussion, there is no problem. However, it has binding resolutions on which $34 billion will be spent in the next five years to implement its resolutions.

Economic sanctions may be applied on the reluctant Third World countries hopelessly dependent on aid from the USA. and the World Bank. The initial draft resolutions were nothing but a blueprint for the imposition of "condom culture" on the Third World in order to control the population of Muslims, Catholics and other Third World nations. In the words of the Bishop of England, "This is imperialism of the first world over the Third World. The use of the United Nations to impose the new world order on the Third World is deplorable."

The United Nations, traditionally known as a peacemaker, not being able to achieve peace anywhere, has franchised into other ventures now. The Quran, the Muslim holy book, knowing the real intent of these peacemakers, has said, "They call themselves peacemakers, but indeed they are mischief-makers but they perceive it nor" (2:10). Then Quran instructs mankind, "Do not cause mischief on earth after it has been set in order" (7:56).

Although the conference was labeled as a population and development conference, eighty percent of the discussion was on population control only. The same conference held in 1974 and 1984 did not use the word abortion at all.

The United States played a big role, being the condom culture czar, and using the United Nations as its agent. Thus, in March, 1994, when the US. State Department instructed all US embassies to tell their host govemments, "The United States believes that the access to safe, legal and voluntary abortion is a fundamental right of all women,"it produced a huge outcry.

This fundamental human right of all women is only in the United States and nowhere else ? This is a result of pro-abortion lobby pressure on the US Government. Similarly, in the draft resolution, the inclusion of the word "other unions," next to marriage, was due to pressure from homosexuals and lesbians who recently forced Health Secretary Janet Reno to allow homosexuals to migrate to this country as political refugees seeking asylum if they are persecuted in their own country, as if we have a shortage of homosexuals and AIDS in our country, and we need to import more.

Let us discuss this "real threat" of the population explosion. Two hundred years ago, Malthus predicted that our population growth would be so much that there would be a shortage of food. Then Paul Ehrlich wrote a book, The Population Bomb, which is nothing but a masterpiece of propaganda. Many of its predictions have been disproved. The birth rates are actually going down in many areas of the world, both in industrial and in non-industrial countries. Producers of toys, diapers and baby clothes across the United States are diversifying in other fields.

Even if we believe that the world's population in the next thirty years will increase from 5.7 billion presently to 14 billion, that would equal 269 persons per square mile. However, currently, there are 1,140 persons per square mile in the Netherlands, and 848 persons per square mile in Japan. No one is talking about population control in these two countries by using condoms and abortion.

Why are they obsessed with controlling the Third World's population? In a recently declassified US National Security Council document entitled "National Security-Study Memorandum 200" by Henry Kissinger, dated December 10, 1974, the implications of worldwide population growth for US security and overseas claimed that the Third World population growth represented a threat to US national security. There were thirteen key countries that worried him most, and included were Pakistan, Indonesia, Egypt, Bangladesh and Turkey, which constitute a Muslim population of half a billion.

Before him, a US State Department official, Thomas Ferguson, said that population is a political problem, and either they do it "our way, through nice and clean methods, or they will get into the kind of mess we have in El Salvador, in Iran or in Beirut." However, this idea of controlling the Third World population even has the philosophical backing from eurocentric philosophers. Several decades earlier, Bertrand Russell said,"The white population of the world will soon cease to grow. The Asiatic races will live longer. The Negroes will live still longer, before their birth rate falls sufficiently to make their number stable without the help of war and pestilence. The less prolific races will have to defend themselves by methods which are disgusting, even if they are necessary.""

Wherever the population control programs have been "successfully installed" under United Nations supervision, it has caused problems. For example, in Indonesia, the birth rate has dropped. However, several women's groups there and in this country denounced their tactics as using excessive social pressure in a repressive manner. Betsy Hartman, Director of Population Studies at Hampshire College, says that the success of the Indonesian program is due to lack of contraceptive choice, authoritarian and pressure tactics, and disregard for women's health.

Let's go to China, where the one-child-per-couple program was successfully implemented. Before the program, the ratio of women to men was nearly equal. Now, since couples are allowed to have only one child, they do gender selection using ultrasound techniques to abort the female child and have only males. Thus, the ratio of men to women is three to one now. Where are these Chinese men going to find women to continue their families in the future?

So the real problem is not current or future overpopulation as much as a problem with mal-distribution, overconsumption and underutilization of much-needed resources. This year the industrialized nations, one-fifth of the world's population, produced nine tenths of all the chlorofluorocarbons, the by-product of all industries which causes pollution and breaks the ozone layer, doing it at the cost of pollution in their own countries as well as in the Third World countries.

The same "promoters of peace and development in the world" are also the sell arms traders, the merchants of death for the Third World. The United States justifiably does not want North Korea, Iran, Pakistan, Libya and Iraq to have nuclear and chemical weapons, but is it prepared to give up some of its own arsenal of weapons of mass destruction? Or have any of the defense producers in the world decreased their exports of conventional weapons to the Third World? No.

Now let us discuss the modus operandi, or the goals of the population conference. In Islam we call it "ways of Satan." The first is universally compulsory sex education. The only two goals of sex education in this country are to prevent teenage pregnancy and to prevent sexually transmitted disease including AIDS. For this they recommended under the umbrella of "reproductive health," that everyone, youth or adult, should have access to condoms and other contraceptive devices. Seventeen billion dollars will be spent to promote this in the next few years, insuring the governments provide "superior quality condoms" to everyone including in the schools and workplaces. But these superior quality condoms have not been able to decrease in the incidence of sexually transmitted diseases or teenage pregnancy of AIDS in this country. How can they do it in the Third World?

The reasons they have failed are three: I.The AIDS virus is one-third the size of a sperm; therefore, it is permeable . 2.They are expensive and should be used only one time for each act. 3. It takes away the sexual pleasure; therefore, people do not use it as often as they should be using it. However, this emphasis on condom culture will continue, and I would not be surprised if fifteen years from now, my grandchildren would be taught in the alphabet, "C" for condom and "P" for pills.

Their second goal was to undermine the institution of marriage. They wanted women to "delay marriage while continuing to use other methods of contraception while enjoying sex." At the same time, they would encourage women to come out of their houses and compete with men in all the jobs outside. According to them, it is demeaning for women to serve food to their children and their husbands, but to serve food as a waitress in a hotel or as an air hostess for an airline, wearing a miniskirt, is their "empowerment."

Unfortunately, many men, including in this country, will continue to enslave women despite UN. resolutions. The working American women, when they come home, they still have to prepare meals, still have to do the laundry, and still have to do the shopping, while men watch basketball games and drink beer.

Even in this conference of enslavement of women, under the code name of empowerment, heads of the delegations, except for two, were men, and most of the speakers were also men who were telling women not to have families or children but to be available for sex only. Another aim of the conference was to destroy family values which help the Muslims survive. They planned to do this by taking over the rights of the parents from their teenagers by allowing teenagers to have free access to condoms, pills and abortions without the consent or knowledge of their parents.

In the USA., a teenage girl cannot have aspirin from a school nurse without the written approval of the parents, but she can go to an abortion clinic and have an abortion done without the parents' knowledge. Which is more dangerous, aspirin or abortion? At the same time, they ask parents to be financially responsible for their grandchildren born to teenage mothers The breakdown of the family structure and single-parent family is the most serious social problem in the United States, so it wishes the same mess it is for the rest of the world.

Another aim of the conference was to use abortion as a fertility-regulating agent. The Third World countries will be instructed to have abortions safe and free, available to all those who seek it, or otherwise face sanctions. Their compliance could be strictly monitored and enforced. Mubarak and Bhutto might be told that if you do want US aid, then you have to buy a billion dollars worth of "super-quality condoms" from the USA and the First World, and perform so many abortions per year in your country. The United Nations' supervised genocide in Bosnia and worldwide on fetuses, may have a common goal "to control the population of Muslims.""

THE FINAL DRAFT

The final draft adopted after intense opposition from the Vatican, Latin American countries and Muslims did modify the initial resolution in language. A clause was inserted saying, "Implementation of the document should be consistent with full respect for the various religious and ethical values and cultural backgrounds." The words "marriage and other unions" were changed to "families in various forms." The words "sexual rights" were removed but "reproductive rights of couples and individuals" kept."

After five days of intense negotiation, the Catholics won greater emphasis for passage saying, "Abortion should not be promoted as a means of family planning." The right of migrant family reunification was changed to "the vital importance of family reunification." Emphasis on "empowerment of women" and prohibition of female circumcision stayed in the draft.

What should be our future plans of action? We thank the UN officials who said "fundamentalist Muslims" have collaborated with the Vatican in opposing the population conference. We pray that this understanding between people of faith will continue to prosper to oppose the satanic designs. Muslims and people of faith elsewhere have an obligation to meet this challenge by disseminating the information and educating their own people. They must fight together, arm in arm, against secular immorality and liberal imperialism being imposed on the Third World.

They must develop their own resources and economic growth and not allow the opportunistic, former colonial powers to rob them of their natural resources, or rule their destiny. American people should tell the Clinton administration that it does not need to fight the population of the Third World, but the population and power of the liberal lobby of the coalition of homosexuals and pro-abortion groups.

36 posted on 10/17/2001 5:56:14 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: 2020x100
Helping to provide contraception and health care to women in third world countries is not a "genocidal practice."

You need to read up on the tactics used these past 8 years by the Clinton administration. You MIGHT not view these practices as genocide, but what really matter is millions of people in the world DO. Don't believe that every third world country having abortion FORCED on it wants it, don't believe that only American Pro-Life people might fight back. If anything, Muslims attacking planned parenthood to stop the genocide would be understandable. I would not fight a war they would have against abortionists. You abortionists are on your own on this one, you have much to answer for.

37 posted on 10/17/2001 6:00:27 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: 2020x100
Do you honestly believe Clinton should have been using money and the power of the UN to force abortion clinics on people? The pre-Clinton administrations were able to discuss population control without forcing abortion. Denying billions of dollars of money is force. You can thank the Clintons for their thug practices for much of this mess we are now in.
38 posted on 10/17/2001 6:03:06 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: 2020x100
"Every minute of every day, somewhere on Earth, a woman dies in pregnancy or childbirth -- more than 500,000 deaths a year. Of the motherless children left behind, an estimated 90 percent die before they turn 1 ."

Abortion is genocide. It's the biggest genocide in history. 500,000 deaths per year of pregnant women? I don't know if those figures are right but I know that there are 1 million abortions per year in the US alone. So the number of murdered babies is bigger than the number of women who died because of preganancy.

This is a false argument anyway. Even the countries with the strictest laws against abortion, like Ireland or the Islamic states, still allow abortion to save the mother's life. So we can have it both ways. We can save the babies and the mothers. The argument that if we don't allow abortion women will die is a false choice.

If I remember my statistics correctly only 7% of abortions in the US were motivated by concern for the mother's health, rape, defects or some other similar "hard case". So only a tiny portion of the abortions in the US are done to save the mother's life. And even these would still be legal if abortion were outlawed. So your argument is false.

There is just no justification for allowing abortion for any reason at any time. For this reson abortion is genocide plain and simple and those who do abortions are mass murderers.

39 posted on 10/17/2001 6:04:54 AM PDT by Marduk
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To: 2020x100
In case you hadn't noticed, the Nuremberg Files judgment was thrown out by the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals panel as an infringement on free speech. The full court has agreed to take up the case, but has not done so yet. The Nuremberg Files website advocates bringing abortionists to justice in a court of law.

As far as anthrax threats against abortion mills is concerned, until a perp is convicted, there is no way to know who is behind it, just as there is no way to know whether suspicious fires at abortion mills were done by right wing fanatics, distraught fathers whose babies were slaughtered inside, or by unscrupulous abortionists for the insurance money.

40 posted on 10/17/2001 6:08:49 AM PDT by Aunt Polgara
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To: Marduk
Abortion is clearly genocide and it's very obvious by the language and the tactics used at the 1994 Cairo Conference on population that it was being used by the Clinton administration as genocide. Money for abortion but not money to feed starving children. Clinton is a criminal there is no doubt about it. If Clinton had never been president, 7000 people would still be alive and the WTC would still be standing.
41 posted on 10/17/2001 6:15:07 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: 2020x100
People who send disease through the mail are not pro life, they are terrorists. The people that harbor them are just as guilty, that is the Bush doctrine. They will be found and punished by the state.

People that kill unborn babies by partially delivering them and pithing them are likewise terrorists and those that harbor them are likewise guilty. They will, hopefully, pay the piper in the next life.

42 posted on 10/17/2001 6:18:42 AM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: 2020x100
Would you give it a rest already?
Pro Lifers. Killing. For God.
Abortionists. Killing. For Money. Neither are on the right side of the issue.
43 posted on 10/17/2001 6:20:31 AM PDT by PLOM...NOT!
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To: Marduk
"The letters may have been sent by agents working for the ADL, for example. They may be trying to use this to stamp out the right-wing opposition. The ADL may use this to pass laws to outlaw conservatism."

Hopefully, this is a disinformation/diversionary tactic on the part of the "terrorists". BUT, the pattern doesn't look good at this stage. If it is a right wing wacko, the damage to conservatism will be incalculable.

There is no conservative litmus test re: fall on the sword support for Israel. Some, including the Falwell/Robertson's and other conservatives often take the approach of Israel, right or wrong. Others take a more balanced view and believe that while Israel is a closer ally than the Arab & Muslim states, that the interests of the US come first. Still others fall into the anti-Semitic category. The ADL is a sorry group to be sure but I don't think they would be involved in this.

UPDATE: FoxNews just said ~20 members of Daschles office test + for anthrax. Like I said yesterday, time to dust off the nukes. Hopefully we don't have to use them on our own nutcases.

45 posted on 10/17/2001 6:29:25 AM PDT by secondamendmentkid
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To: 2020x100
Or maybe you prefer to see more acres and acres of little children's distended bellies with flies and maggots hovering around the starving and dying.

By your reasoning we should kill these kids also in order to save them. Twisted.

46 posted on 10/17/2001 6:29:48 AM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: secondamendmentkid
Hopefully we don't have to use them on our own nutcases.

This is exactly what the leftists want. They don't want foreign terrorists deported, they want the US government to control all dissent, they want spying done on citizens, they want the US turned into one big WACO. Planned Parenthood, Hillary and the rest would just as soon forget the Muslim terrorists and have all Americans silenced who would possibly oppose them.

47 posted on 10/17/2001 6:37:14 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: secondamendmentkid
"The ADL is a sorry group to be sure but I don't think they would be involved in this."

They might be involved in it. They are unscrupulous and evil to the core. The ADL is the heart of liberalism in the USA.

Are you aware that the ADL keeps files on American citizens? They keep files on anyone they perceive to be their enemy. They spy on American citizens. Then they use this information to persecute people. For instance, they might discover a sexual indiscretion and blackmail the individual into obeying them. I think the ADL is capable of anything. Clinton may very well have learned his dirty tactics from some of his friends in the ADL.

48 posted on 10/17/2001 6:37:17 AM PDT by Marduk
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To: Catspaw
I remember reading a while ago the Horsley received an anthrax threat.Of course, the mainstream press never covered that story.

For that matter, anyone can write The Army of God. Easy to finger these people that's for sure because they have unpopular opinions.

The Afghans do have a beef - the UN Population Fund using U.S. tax dollars is sending "reproductive health service products" which includes vaccum aspirators (also sent to the Bosnian women) to kill their unborn children. I consider that a serious motivation for the FBI to explore .

Before we start singling out, people ,we don't like, we better have the facts.

49 posted on 10/17/2001 6:41:01 AM PDT by victim soul
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To: jwalsh07
Or maybe you prefer to see more acres and acres of little children's distended bellies with flies and maggots hovering around the starving and dying.

"By your reasoning we should kill these kids also in order to save them. Twisted.

Say it with me s l o w l y now:

C - O - N - T - R - A - C - E - P - T - I - O - N

Planned Parenthood in addition to health education, pre and post natal care help to provide

C O N T R A C E P T I O N
But I suppose you are opposed to that as well.
Hell, they are only women, right? Third world women at that. What's the difference if they die in childbirth, right?
50 posted on 10/17/2001 6:42:25 AM PDT by 2020x100
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