Skip to comments.Bin Laden website a countdown to Sept. 11?
Posted on 10/19/2001 7:16:34 AM PDT by truthandlife
It is a matter of public record that the bin Laden family has vociferously disavowed their wayward 17th child. And who could blame them?
No mere wanton wastrel, the worlds most wanted man has brought great shame upon this wealthy family. Even worse than shame, though, Osamas actions have endangered the clans coffers.
So it is not surprising that the bin Ladens have cut ties to "the evildoer," as George Dubya likes to refer to him.
Or did they?
A web domain registered to the Saudi Binladin Group (the megabucks corporation uses the alternate spelling of the family name) raises questions about what role, if any, the family has played in the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.
The domain was registered on Sept. 11, 2000, with a preset expiration date of Sept. 11, 2001, according to a technician with VeriSign, an Internet domain registry service formerly known as Network Solutions.
Or was this website set up to start the countdown on the most devastating attack in U.S. history?
Like a lot of information that has been pouring in to me since shortly before 9 a.m. Sept. 11, the tidbit about www.saudi-binladin-group.com was amazingly tantalizing.
Unlike a lot of the tidbits, however, this morsel, delivered last week by an anonymous source I will refer to as Deep Spore, has a paper trail attached to it.
The paper trail began with a web search of the Binladin Group that revealed the aforementioned website. A check of that site showed that it no longer existed. A quick "whois" check on VeriSigns website which lists who set up a particular site and when showed that, unlike Binladin-related sites that were taken down right after the attacks on New York and Washington, saudi-binladin-group.com expired on the day of the attacks.
This was no accident, according to a VeriSign technician in Mountainview, Calif.
"This was timed so it would expire on that date," says the technician, who identified herself only by her first name, Antonette, and by her employee number, 001. Antonette also verified that the information listed in the whois search was accurate and not tampered with by an outside party. Antonette added that VeriSign had already been contacted by law enforcement about other attack-related domain names the company had registered.
"I had a call from the L.A. police," she said. "He was also asking about a domain name that expired on Sept. 11. I cant remember the name of it, but it had something to do with the WTC."
The Binladin website was created by a company called Arq Limited, a U.K. web design firm. The administrative, technical and billing contact listed on the whois search is a man named Philip Lumsden.
After several calls to the U.K., I learned that Arq Limited went out of business, replaced by a company called Active 8 Solutions, which shares the same Bath, England, mailing address and a telephone number that is only one digit off from Arq Limiteds old number.
I learned one more interesting thing.
"Mr. Lumsden left a week ago," said a man who answered the phone at Active 8 Solutions. "I am not aware of why he left."
The man, who would not give his name, added that he had "no clue" about the saudi-binladin-group.com website.
A half-dozen odd calls Tuesday, October 15, to the Saudi Binladin Groups headquarters in Jedda, Saudi Arabia, turned up little other than assurances that if I called back in 20 minutes or a half-hour, then somebody would be able to give me some information about the website.
Each time I called, I explained that I wanted to ask somebody at the company why the website expired on Sept. 11, 2001, a rather significant date in world history. Each time I was told to call back until, finally, I spoke with someone who could answer my questions.
But not for long.
"You can check with VeriSign," said a man who did not identify himself. "VeriSign has all the details."
The man then asked me to hold on because he had to take another call. Then I was disconnected. I called back, only to be disconnected again. When I called back a third time, another man answering the phone asked if I could send an e-mail listing my questions.
"It is already after 6 p.m. here," said the man. "Nobody is in anymore."
The next day, I called again and again was told to call back later. By deadline, neither of the two emails I sent seeking comment were answered.
If the attackers did use this website, the FBI, which is tracking down thousands and thousands of leads, may be interested.
"I am not aware of [the website], and I do not know whether the FBI is aware of it, but I cant speak for the entire FBI," said Joe Valiquette, spokesman for the FBIs New York office. "Generally speaking, we would be interested in something like that."
Registrant: Saudi Binladin Group (SAUDI-BINLADIN-GROUP2-DOM) Prince Abdullah Street Jeddah, 21492 SA Domain Name: SAUDI-BINLADIN-GROUP.COM Administrative Contact, Technical Contact, Billing Contact: Lumsden, Philip (PLP239) philip@ARQ.CO.UK Arq Limited The Old Post Office George Street Bath, BA1 2EB UK 01224 312 391 Record last updated on 11-Sep-2000. Record expires on 11-Sep-2001. Record created on 11-Sep-2000. Database last updated on 19-Oct-2001 00:59:00 EDT. Domain servers in listed order: NS0-S.DNS.PIPEX.NET 18.104.22.168 NS1-S.DNS.PIPEX.NET 22.214.171.124
Yes. I really have no clue what all that is saying. Could it just be some kind of default to expire in a year or something?
Probably an annual renewal type contract.
If by "they" you mean Bush, Inc., you've got to be kidding...
Do you know how much money the Bush family has tied up with the Binladins?
Ya know, one of the Bin-Laden studs fathered 19 kids between 9/11/99 and 9/11/01. That brought the total living left-handed Bin-Ladens to 555.