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Bin Laden website a countdown to Sept. 11?
Philadelphia City Paper ^ | 10/19/01 | Howard Altman

Posted on 10/19/2001 7:16:34 AM PDT by truthandlife

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To: cactmh; PhiKapMom
Can you provide proof that the Bin Laden group was the largest investor in Bush's oil and that James Bath handles $ for the Bin Ladens? An article isn't proof.

The investors in Arbusto were a matter of public record.

Regarding Bath, his activities on behalf of the Bush and Binladen families is not only a matter of public record, but are matters Bath testified to under oath in a series of lawsuits in Harris County, Texas against Bill White. I could cite an article, but that's not 'proof' I guess. I suggest you make your way to the Harris County courthouse and read the record yourself.

It is no secret that Saudi Sheik Salem M. Binladen appointed Bath as his business representative in Houston. Binladen, along with his brothers, owns Binladen Brothers Construction, one of the largest construction companies in the Middle East. It is also a matter of public record that Bath received a 5 percent interest in the companies that own and operate Houston Gulf Airport after purchasing it on behalf of Binladen in 1977.

My initial remark was that the Bush's and Binladens have money tied up with one another. The Binladens are heavily invested in Bush family interests and vica versa.

Accordingly, that Bush would 'sieze the Binladen' money as the poster to whom I was originally responded suggested, is nonsense.

Why is it no Freepers had any trouble imagining a white-trash redneck Arkansas Governor could have connections with the Chinese, drug dealers, Soviets, etc. but that the Bush family -- composed of multi-millionaires, former CIA heads, Presidents, and Vice Presidents are simply nice middle-class folks like you and me?

Pull your head out of your a**.

41 posted on 10/19/2001 7:35:49 PM PDT by BabylonXXX
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To: PhiKapMom
Sweetheart,

I've done legal work for the Carlyle Group.

You don't know what you are talking about.

Go back to sleep.

42 posted on 10/19/2001 7:37:05 PM PDT by BabylonXXX
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To: truthandlife
FROM GOOGLE CACHE:

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G o o g l e's cache is the snapshot that we took of the page as we crawled the web.
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Saudi Binladin Group Home Page



Saudi Binladin Group, Prince Abdullah St., Al Rawdah District, P.O.B. 8918, Jeddah 21492, Saudi Arabia.
Tel: 966-2-664 3033  Fax: 966-2-664 3221/3225  Telex: 607439 SBG

43 posted on 10/19/2001 7:37:27 PM PDT by ChadGore
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Saudi Binladin Group Industrial & Power Projects Division

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SBG has evolved in recent years into a major player in the industrial and power sectors. Its involvement covers a wide range of activities including the following: 
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SBG's expertise in industrial and power projects has been proven by the successful completion of many major projects in the Kingdom and other countries. These projects include the following:  
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44 posted on 10/19/2001 7:39:36 PM PDT by ChadGore
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To: BabylonXXX
Oh you forgot about the Bilderbergers, the Trilateral Commission, the Council on Foreign Relations, and all the other trash that you can neither substantiate or document at all.

Your mission is to destroy by unproven allegations and only offer editorial opinion as proof.

Wow! You really have uncovered something big here....LOL!!!

45 posted on 10/19/2001 7:54:27 PM PDT by Lackey Bush
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To: SarahW
Does give you that feeling, doesn't it?
46 posted on 10/19/2001 7:57:27 PM PDT by Brandonmark
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To: truthandlife
I never have believed that his is the black sheep of his family. Who would fall for a fable like that anyway?
47 posted on 10/19/2001 7:57:33 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: PhiKapMom
Saw the same thing posted today on democrats.com

Guess that tell's you where it's coming from!

48 posted on 10/19/2001 8:42:39 PM PDT by Brandonmark
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To: Alamo-Girl
*Ping*
49 posted on 10/19/2001 9:20:52 PM PDT by Mr_Magoo
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To: truthandlife
I read on Drudge in a preview Oct. 22 New Yorker article that the CIA has known that Saudi Arabia "went to the dark side" in 1996 and has been financing world terrorism ever since: http://www.drudgereport.com/jp7.html

I guess both Clinton and Bush are ignoring this fact but I don't know why, because the American Petroleum Instite says the U.S. has a 70 year domestic supply of oil (world supply 805 years): http://www.api.org/edu/factsoil.htm

50 posted on 10/19/2001 9:25:44 PM PDT by Terrorista Nada
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To: Brandonmark
Saw the same thing posted today on democrats.com

What a LAME site that is! Sheesh!


51 posted on 10/19/2001 9:58:51 PM PDT by JayNorth
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To: BabylonXXX
I've done legal work for the Carlyle Group.

Sure you have, LOL. (Something we cannot verify.) But assuming you have, and in your busy schedule as a big-time lawyer for a 'secretive company' you have found the time to post late on Friday night to an internet forum, then that means you also profited from your association with that group, and therefore have nothing to complain about except your own 'guilt.' You 'made money from military conflicts and weapons spending' and accuse others of doing the same, as if investing in the defense industry is bad.

While I do some research on the companies I invest in, I don't look up the board's family members and in-laws and dig in there. Generally I look at the company's performance. Now, having additional money invested in funds, that means I have invested in hundreds of corporations. And in those cases I was interested in the performance of the fund, which means that at a given time I don't know each and every company I'm in. I invest in stocks of companies that make money from 'conflicts and weapons spending' too. I have interests in companies that make money off of 'sickness and disease' such as biotechnology firms. If it wasn't for sickness and disease, we wouldn't need medicine and therapies, would we? Nor would we need biotech firms. Yet, these firms aren't out there making disease any more than doctors are. They are in the business of treating ailments, or even curing them... though there will never be a complete elimination of disease or pain. This is not unlike defense industry, which in the US is designed to 'treat' war, and end wars. Human nature being what it is, there will always be jealousy, class warfare, turf skirmishes, raw hatred, and stupid misunderstandings... and therefore, there will always be a need for defense, and a need for people willing to stand up for themselves and their loved ones.

I invest in companies that make money off of car accidents and house fires- after all, if there was no danger of house fires and accidents, insurance companies wouldn't exist. And I profit from companies that make money off of 'hunger and starvation'... you know, FARMERS. If it wasn't for hunger and famine farmers would be out of business. Everyone could sit around and wait for manna to drop from heaven, while cursing the people who make aliving from growing food for the high crime of 'profiting from hunger.'

52 posted on 10/19/2001 10:17:24 PM PDT by piasa
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To: JayNorth
What a LAME site that is! Sheesh!

How true!

53 posted on 10/20/2001 8:04:59 AM PDT by Brandonmark
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To: cactmh
I guess he will target all of us that have defense stocks next. I certainly hope to profit from them! Just wish I had a lot more!
54 posted on 10/20/2001 9:59:47 AM PDT by PhiKapMom
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To: Terrorista Nada
You have got to be kidding -- The New Yorker and Drudge are really great sources!

Maybe you didn't see the comments of the other brother (another Prince of the Saudi Royal Family) who said the American military are welcome in Saudi Arabia as only two cities -- Mecca and I can't remember the other one are considered Holy Land in Saudi. In rest of the Country our military is more than welcome. This Prince was out front talking after his Moron of a brother made his comments.

You can bet that the Father had the final say along with his military advisors. Without the US, Saudi Arabia would be very vulnerable to Iraq. Have you never heard of a black sheep of the family -- the Prince who made the comments after trying to give NY $10 million comes to mind. Now the adults are in charge in Saudi!

55 posted on 10/20/2001 10:07:20 AM PDT by PhiKapMom
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To: Brandonmark
These clinitonites never fail to amuse me with their attacks on the Bush Family that are totally lame.

Off to the OU/Baylor game, but had to come on here first to see the comments on this thread since the site was down last night! Thought I would take advantage of waiting for my daughter to get ready for the game!

56 posted on 10/20/2001 10:09:49 AM PDT by PhiKapMom
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To: PhiKapMom
Sorry, but I do consider Matt Drudge to be a reliable news source. Don't know about the New Yorker magazine though, 'cause New York is a loooooong way from San Diego (where I am... "This salsa's made in NEW YORK CITY!") and I've never read it. (We try to stay away from NY stuff)

Actually the source both Matt and the NYer identifed was the NSA (National Security Agency)... but you don't consider them reliable either I suppose?

57 posted on 10/20/2001 5:46:41 PM PDT by Terrorista Nada
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To: Focault's Pendulum
If you want to know more about the nexus of the Carlyle Associates type in "skull & Bones" in Google.

It's Monday UK and I am trying to get the Companies House records on Arq Ltd., The main site showed that their was "major security alert" this am. I have had the money transaction confirms but all I get is the title pages.

V curious.,

Such a site could be used to send messages steganographically, but it looks a bit obvious.

If I get the lateste Accounts and Directors Report I will post the interesting bits - there are said to be 34 pages.

58 posted on 10/22/2001 5:26:24 AM PDT by unending thunder
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To: unending thunder
Still unable to get infro from Companies House. try this link to see message about "major security alert at Companies House" - no mention on any new line, bbc, cnn etc., V odd. http://www.companieshouse.gov.uk/
59 posted on 10/22/2001 6:39:02 AM PDT by unending thunder
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To: unending thunder
Currently living in Bath, I used to work for a company on the floor below ARQ Ltd. and assure you they DID exist for some time. So far as I am aware, there was nothing sinister about them, whatsoever. Just another small business accepting whatever contracts came their way.

They had several large clients, so it is no surprise that they produced/hosted a site for the Bin-Laden/Bin-Ladin family.
60 posted on 10/25/2002 2:49:47 AM PDT by funkyman
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